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The MAC 12-18-2006 04:55 PM

will wwe ever acknowledge TNA?
 
TNA mention wwe so much especially if its a wrestler that beat pple in the wwe. Im wondering if wwe will ever "return the favour"

M-A-G 12-18-2006 04:56 PM

Only when they start handing them their asses a la WCW.

The Naitch 12-18-2006 05:06 PM

lol I hope WWE never ever acknowledges TNA

Xero 12-18-2006 05:06 PM

Why should the WWE give them any free publicity?

Right now they aren't a threat what-so-ever viewer-wise. It's just common sense.

Now, if they were at par in the ratings, then it's possible that they'd do it, but that's not for a long, LONG way off.

The Naitch 12-18-2006 05:10 PM

WWE: TNA who?

TNA: C'mon, I'll be your friend!

WWE: No

TNA: You're mean

M-A-G 12-18-2006 05:11 PM

LOL

The MAC 12-18-2006 05:17 PM

if TNA suceeds its for the better of WWE! I think TNA will be mentioned on WWE within 2yrs..lol

Caged Heat18 12-18-2006 05:24 PM

With the VKM angle, TNA is pratically begging WWE to acknowledge them. I don't see the WWE taking the bait.

ChiefStubbs 12-18-2006 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caged Heat18
With the VKM angle, TNA is pratically begging WWE to acknowledge them. I don't see the WWE taking the bait.

I do, however, see them taking the money they're practically throwing at them.

Jeritron 12-18-2006 06:17 PM

Of course they will.
Heres how I see the situation...
TNA is making a push to compete with WWE. They are rapidly investing and making moves to grow as a company and a product, just like WCW. Therefore they can either A) suceed (compete with WWE regardless of outcome) or B) fall flat on their face and fall apart.
Once A is reached you basically either fall to B, or go on to be the top dog.

So if TNA begins to pose a threat to WWE like WCW did, they will certainly be referenced and combatted against since it is then out in the open.
If TNA never manages to compete with WWE, they will only go down seeing as they're on the doorstep now.
So either WWE references them in compettition, or they fold and WWE buys the rights to their video library and name.

Pay no attention to that if it makes no sense to you.

Kane Knight 12-18-2006 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefStubbs
I do, however, see them taking the money they're practically throwing at them.

How the fuck would you even sort that out?

Assuming there's even a real argument there....

Fignuts 12-18-2006 11:26 PM

When TNA signs more of their best talent.

Fignuts 12-18-2006 11:27 PM

Which from the looks of things will probably happen sooner rather than later.

Stickman 12-19-2006 02:44 PM

They rarely mentioned WCW on air.

Xero 12-19-2006 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman
They rarely mentioned WCW on air.

Yeah, but they made up for all the times they didn't mention them by staging the Invasion of one of their shows and the CNN Headquarters.

Arnold HamNegger 12-19-2006 03:36 PM

I would like to see them use Eugene's character to take suttle jabs at TNA. Simmons could walk in on Eugene in the dressing room watching IMPACT! and holding a "Jeff Jarret" doll.

"DAMN!"

Xero 12-19-2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger
I would like to see them use Eugene's character to take suttle jabs at TNA. Simmons could walk in on Eugene in the dressing room watching IMPACT! and holding a "Jeff Jarret" doll.

"DAMN!"

Even better, have Eugene start doing shit like the Canadian Destoryer and Styles Clash, showing that even retards can do them!

Arnold HamNegger 12-19-2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Even better, have Eugene start doing shit like the Canadian Destoryer and Styles Clash, showing that even retards can do them!

:lol:

Give Eugene a replica X-Division Belt to wear.

"I'M SPECIAL!!!"

Volare 12-19-2006 03:46 PM

Well....TNA DID get a mention. Remember when Angle issued the challenge for ONS2 this year? He said he'd take on anyone 4 sided, 6 sided, or 8 sided...gee who could be the 6 sided?

Xero 12-19-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger
:lol:

Give Eugene a replica X-Division Belt to wear.

"I'M SPECIAL!!!"

Have him come out and wrestle with an Abyss mask, X-Division title, Kurt Angle shirt.

Of course, this storyline would all lead up to the ultimate match: Eugene vs. Hacksaw in... THE EIGHT SIDED RING OF DOOM!

Arnold HamNegger 12-19-2006 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Have him come out and wrestle with an Abyss mask, X-Division title, Kurt Angle shirt.

Of course, this storyline would all lead up to the ultimate match: Eugene vs. Hacksaw in... THE EIGHT SIDED RING OF DOOM!

Vince: "Is that you Foley? YOUR STILL FFFFIIIIIIIRRRRRREEEEEDDDDD!"

Eugene: "Im not Mankind Mr. McMahon, I'm Aby....."

Vince: "SAY IT AND YOUR FFFFFFFIIIIIIIIRRRRRRREEEEEEDDDDDD!"

Disturbed316 12-19-2006 04:18 PM

They did, well, Josh Mathews did at least on Byte This.

Innovator 12-19-2006 04:54 PM

Speaking of acknowledgment, in my area there was a ROH commercial during RAW for the show on Friday

The MAC 12-19-2006 05:43 PM

that eugene/simmons idea is GOLD! DAMN! Further mockery could include Eugene wearing a double JJ hat to the ring.

The Naitch 12-19-2006 05:47 PM

I love the Eugene ideas up there

Kane Knight 12-19-2006 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare
Well....TNA DID get a mention. Remember when Angle issued the challenge for ONS2 this year? He said he'd take on anyone 4 sided, 6 sided, or 8 sided...gee who could be the 6 sided?

Yeah, it's not like the 6-Sided ring is used elsewhere, it's only TNA, and therefore, they might as well have said TNA...Oh, right. It's only innovative in the minds of Fox and TNA.

Destor 12-19-2006 10:19 PM

KK you know as well as i do that was a direct shot at TNA... come on man.

The One 12-19-2006 10:21 PM

(It was a shot at TNA.)

Jeritron 12-20-2006 12:29 AM

What top names do you think they would be signing? How much money does TNA really have to be throwing around? Their ratings and buyrates are improving of course and aren't exactly "bad"...for them. They don't tour and have limited seats in the impact zone, so they aren't making a killing on live events. Action figures and such can't exactly be flying off shelfs. I doubt their videogame will be in the greatest hits collection for any system, to say the least; but maybe available for the same bargain price.
So one has to wonder where TNA would be getting the money to sign such highly coveted talent. I dont know how much Sting Angle and Nash are pulling down but its probably most of what they have, but guys like Mysterio and RVD who have huge fan followings and have both been world champions in the last year would probably cost TNA a few bucks. And I wouldnt neccesarily say WWE wouldnt have interest in guys like Daniles and Styles at some point, and money talks.
It seems to me if TNA is looking to compete they're gonna have to spend a lot of money they don't have and hope that their storybook doesnt end in chapter eleven.

D Mac 12-20-2006 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeritron5000
What top names do you think they would be signing? How much money does TNA really have to be throwing around? Their ratings and buyrates are improving of course and aren't exactly "bad"...for them. They don't tour and have limited seats in the impact zone, so they aren't making a killing on live events. Action figures and such can't exactly be flying off shelfs. I doubt their videogame will be in the greatest hits collection for any system, to say the least; but maybe available for the same bargain price.
So one has to wonder where TNA would be getting the money to sign such highly coveted talent. I dont know how much Sting Angle and Nash are pulling down but its probably most of what they have, but guys like Mysterio and RVD who have huge fan followings and have both been world champions in the last year would probably cost TNA a few bucks. And I wouldnt neccesarily say WWE wouldnt have interest in guys like Daniles and Styles at some point, and money talks.
It seems to me if TNA is looking to compete they're gonna have to spend a lot of money they don't have and hope that their storybook doesnt end in chapter eleven.


RVD will be there soon.

Jeritron 12-20-2006 01:30 AM

I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.

Destor 12-20-2006 02:19 AM

Please space you paragraphs out more. I never read your long post because of this. Watch:

See?

Two spaces.

The Naitch 12-20-2006 02:26 AM

I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.

Destor 12-20-2006 02:27 AM

That is an example of something I will never read, yes.

Jeritron 12-20-2006 02:36 AM

To Whom it may concern,
Same amount of words but fair enough, I'll make sure to punctuate correctly in the future.

Sincerely,
Jeritron5000

PullMyFinger 12-20-2006 03:06 AM

TNA does have a shitload of money under Panda....Panda is worth 2.2 billion. But they dont wanna just burn burn burn..they want to spend a little and maximize profits.

Kane Knight 12-20-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
KK you know as well as i do that was a direct shot at TNA... come on man.

And yet, never actually acknowledged them. Funny, that.

Destor 12-20-2006 05:25 PM

Yeah they didn't directly say their name. So to the casual observer they were never mentioned. But to anyone with a brain in their head they can see what was said.

Arnold HamNegger 12-20-2006 06:53 PM

Well, this should come as no surprise to anyone.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006...1166644701.php

Wonder how many fans have actually been showing up with VKM/TNA signs?

addy2hotty 12-20-2006 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger
Well, this should come as no surprise to anyone.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006...1166644701.php

Wonder how many fans have actually been showing up with VKM/TNA signs?

3. They didn't get their full names, but security were told Vince, Roadie, and Rock-a-billy.


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