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KingofOldSchool 03-22-2007 06:44 PM

You know who was underrated as a commentator?
 
Roddy Piper.

Seriously, the guy is a natural.

He should replace Michael Cole on Smackdown.

Think about it Piper and JBL on commentary.

:drool:

The One 03-22-2007 06:58 PM

I guess I never really considered as a serious long term commentator. But you're right, he would be phenominal. The arguments that he and JBL could get into would be classic.

The One 03-22-2007 06:59 PM

In general, I feel like we need more heel commentators. JR/King, Tazz/Styles, Tenay/West...all both face teams. Really, JBL is the only heel we have left. :'(

KingofOldSchool 03-22-2007 07:02 PM

Ted DiBiase was a heel comentator after he had to retire and if they didn't let him go, he could've been another good heel comentator.

Jeritron 03-22-2007 07:04 PM

Well you can't have 2 personalities calling the show alone. Especially two over the top heel characters.

But I'd love to see him on a commentary team. I think WWE should implement a 3 man commentary team. On smackdown it'd be excellent to have a 3rd personality.
Imagine JBL Cole and Piper.
Or how about Heenan thrown into the mix with one of the current teams. JR Heenan and King would be classic. Heenan and King's discussion with J.R playing the role of the guy stuck in the middle of their madness.

Same with Cole as the voice of reason between Piper and JBL, or JBL and Heenan.

Jeritron 03-22-2007 07:05 PM

Personally, I think Piper should be a GM

KingofOldSchool 03-22-2007 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
Well you can't have 2 personalities calling the show alone. Especially two over the top heel characters.

:wtf:

JBL = Heel

Piper = Face

Not that hard.

Jeritron 03-22-2007 07:09 PM

Yea but dude, they're both personalities. Which is a good thing, they're excellent. But you'd have 2 color commentators and there wouldn't be your non-veteran wrestler cut and dry play by play.

Stickman 03-22-2007 07:10 PM

I dont' think heenan should call any more matches. His voice is terrible right now. He was the best but now he wouldnt' be ver good.

The One 03-22-2007 07:11 PM

While we're on the topic of commentators, I feel the need to point out once again that I utterly hate and loath Don West.

Jeritron 03-22-2007 07:13 PM

me too. I hate Tenay with a passion too. TNA should have Nash or someone whos a former personality of importance doing color.

I also wish Shciavone was still on a headset somewhere.

The One 03-22-2007 07:15 PM

Tenay isn't terrible, infact I'd put his current day performances over current day JR's. But beating JR in commentary these days simply means you know the difference between a wrist lock and BBQ Sauce.

Jura 03-22-2007 07:21 PM

I liked Schiavone. Where is that dude anyways?

KingofOldSchool 03-22-2007 07:21 PM

Yeah.

We all know wrist locks are made of Mrs. Butterworth pancake syrup. :roll:

The One 03-22-2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jura
I liked Schiavone. Where is that dude anyways?

Enjoying the greatest retirment of all time!

Rob 03-22-2007 07:25 PM

Piper was great back in the early 90's. Today he'd be shit.

KingofOldSchool 03-22-2007 07:28 PM

He'd still be better than Cole and Ross.

The One 03-22-2007 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jura
I liked Schiavone. Where is that dude anyways?

Honestly, last I heard he was working as a sport reporter on some radio station in Atlanta or something...

The One 03-22-2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
He'd still be better than Cole and Ross.

And I'd be better than Mini Me at a Slam Dunk contest...doesn't mean I'd be good.

Dont' know why I did that since you were arguing something I agree with, I guess I just felt like being an ass. :D

Crossrine 03-22-2007 08:03 PM

Cole is garbage they should replace him as soon as they can. But for some reason some of the upper guys think he's "the new thing" in commentary...

The One 03-22-2007 08:06 PM

Cole isn't good, but right now, he's the best play by play man in the industry.

Wow, that's something I was sure I would never have to type in my lifetime.

Blitz 03-22-2007 08:28 PM

Schiavone was always terrible.

Cyrus and Gertner need to come back. Cyrus never will tho :(

Crossrine 03-22-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The One
Cole isn't good, but right now, he's the best play by play man in the industry.
What does that say about Joey Styles? :( loose cannon of ecw

NeanderCarl 03-22-2007 09:04 PM

Cole is underrated. He's certainly not the best, but he isn't the pits either.

There's no chance of Heenan ever returning to the booth, bar maybe a novelty one-off match here or there. His voice is not clear enough. He was the best colour man of all time, but sadly his day has gone. Cancer's a thief.

I've been touting Roddy Piper as one the best face colour men for years on here. Check out SummerSlams '90 and '91, Rumble '91 and Survivor Series '90. He was at his best when teamed with straight man Gorilla Monsoon, with Heenan as the antagonist. A JBL/Piper teaming would only work with a straight man in the middle, in a 3 man team.

Doc Brown 03-22-2007 10:23 PM

Perfect was pretty good in the colour spot, he did a great job @ Rumble 96. As well as a few episodes of Superstars in and around that time.

McLegend 03-22-2007 10:42 PM

Cole< J.R.

The Show Off 03-22-2007 11:08 PM

TNA should really look into making Nash or Raven the color man for there broadcasts. Tenay isn't very good, but West is horrible. I think if you got Nash or Raven as a heel announcer with Tenay, Tenay might actually up his game. When he was with Heenan he was pretty alright, but then again you could put Heenan with a down syndrome kid without a voice box and the guy would sound great.

Blitz 03-22-2007 11:10 PM

Cole is definitely the worst play by play man in the business today.

Fignuts 03-22-2007 11:12 PM

Raven was awesome.

El Fangel 03-22-2007 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz
Cole is definitely the worst play by play man in the business today.

Are you sure with all the screw-ups JR has been having lately, that Cole holds this title?

Fignuts 03-22-2007 11:26 PM

Screw ups aside, JR is still a damn good commentator, esprcialy in the main event.

El Fangel 03-22-2007 11:29 PM

Ill give him that, even with the screwups lately, he likely is/was the best commentator the WWE has ever had.

Blitz 03-22-2007 11:31 PM

Exactly. Yeah, JR calls a lot of moves wrong. But he is always on during big matches, and the he actually shows emotion and passion. Cole has all the personality of a damp towel.

El Fangel 03-22-2007 11:36 PM

I think what makes him stand out is his corny sayings that relates to whats happening in the ring. I mean as a commentator, he is the big dog in the yard, and when other commenators see his they run like scalded dogs before they get beaten like government mules in a good ol' fashioned slobber-knocker :)

Fignuts 03-23-2007 12:04 AM

Gorrila and Heenan will always be my fav though.

El Fangel 03-23-2007 12:08 AM

Yes. I agree they were the shit back when they commentated, also Vinny boy wasn't that bad either. But I drooll at the thought of Heenan and JR as a commentary team.... :drool: <-------- see drool

KingofOldSchool 03-23-2007 12:12 AM

They were a commentary team before Heenan left.

El Fangel 03-23-2007 12:20 AM

Really, any PPV's they commented that you know off hand, I may have to D/L It to watch, and see the commentary too.

The One 03-23-2007 12:32 AM

WrestleMania IX springs to mind.

El Fangel 03-23-2007 12:46 AM

Thanks, Ill try getting that asap.


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