So... Scripted MMA Promotion?
 

How far off do you think we are from a scripted MMA promotion? I'm talking pro wrestling-style scripted. And who will promote it?

Let's face it, it's going to happen, and it will probably be promoted by someone either in or who used to be involved with pro wrestling.

It will happen and fail. No one will enjoy it.

Xtreme Fighting League

UFC

if shane-o-mac takes over thats what wwe will be

Well it's a good thing Vince has another son.

...uh...so you mean just a pro wrestling company with shoot style wrestlers. We got that, the main event scene of RoH.

Yeah to the first sentance, but apparent some losers over the internet will disagree with the second.

*rimshot*

There have been a couple promotions like that in japan over the years.

No, I meant something more like UFC.

LOL

Battlearts, and uwf-i

Dunno if pancrase is scripted or not, but I wanna say no.

Well, considering it's sort of how the wrestling business was born...

Legit fights, then promoters found out they could make more money fixing the outcomes...

Who knows?

Personally, I don't give a damn about it either way. :y:

Isn't UFC fixed now?

Look at the Iceman.

:shifty:

Damn you, I wanted to say it.

Seriously, look at the relationship between Dana/Chuck...

Just like Vince/Trips or Vince/Cena. Chuck is Dana's boy and basically he is getting 'put over' as the face of UFC. And look at Dana White's 'fued' with Tito Ortiz. It mirrors professional wrestling.

UFC is scripted to an extent. It is fucking obvious. Why the hell are these new guys getting title shots without 1 or 2 matches in the UFC? I thought UFC was the best of the MMA world, but since they whipped ass in K1 or Pride, they get a free ticket to the title?

Hmmm...sounds like Hulk Hogan coming to WCW.

Well since UFC is a mainly athletic promotion, at least at this point to our knowledge, it's not like Wrestling at all. So comparing challengers coming in and being considered on par with top talent isn't in any way analagous to, say, Hulk Hogan coming into WCW.

First of all, wrestling is a different industry and it has things like paying dues, earning respect and trust, bankability, and recieving a push based on predetermined events.

A fighter coming into UFC and being thought to be a major player due to achievments in other leagues, and being "pushed" accordinly is not the same thing at all.
For example, the Red Sox signing Dice K from Japan for big money and immediately putting him in their rotation. Are you gonna sit here and compare that to Hulk Hogan in WCW?
Or even a player being traded to another team, and being place in the cleanup role in the lineup because he's established talent. Is that the same thing?

Baseball isn't a legit sport anymore. They are all illegal immigrants or steroid pumping freaks.

Seriously, baseball is a different animal because the MLB is the only "major leagues" in baseball. UFC isn't the only "major league" MMA promotion. Its all money, power, and sucking that asshole Dana White's cock.

Jeritron post made no sense what so ever.

And btw who is the fighter from K-1 or Pride who hasn't fought in the UFC who got a title shot?

And don't get me wrong, I like UFC and MMA and all but if you follow it long enough you'll see people getting 'pushed' just like in wrestling. You'll see people peing 'put over' in interviews, etc. You see storylines and hype surrounding the important matches. Is this necessarily wrong or bad, I don't think so. But, it really isn't all that different than professional wrestling at the heart of it.

The hyping of it is already here, it'll never get to the point of scripted fights.

Scripted? Of course not.



Pre-determined? You'd never know the difference.

It could never be scripted or pre determined unless you wanna see fights with absoultley no striking and fighters with no submission D. That being said there was a couple of worked fights in Japan, namely all of Takada's victories are known worked fights and looked exactly as I suggested they would look if they were scripted now. MMA will never and I say never be scripted, because for one winning in MMA,unlike wrestling means something and fights being scripted would go over about as well as wrestling is now.

That's like saying no one out there is taking dives right now. That's a joke.

Do you know for a fact that there's fighters taking dives ? What reason would a fighter have to take a dive ? If it was even suggested to a fighter to take a dive it would ruin all credibility for that organazation.

It's not the same as wrestling. There's not alot of politicing backstage, the most exciting fighters who win their fights get opportunities, there's no "pushes" and fighters getting "burried". I realize you think it's kind of the same, but that shows how much you acctually know about MMA.

Of course there are fighter taking dives, only retards would think other wise.

Wait, there's no pushes? Great fighters dont get fed weak opponents just so they can look good shill out more merch, that never happens? I think you might want to take the beer goggles off. They market guys just like any other company does. Boxing, wrestling, MMA, they all do it.

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Well go ahead, name some

You do know that if a dive is done right you'd never realize it was a dive right?

Sure they market guys, but they market guys who are the best fighters. Weaker fighters are'nt asked to "lay down" for a better fighter. What makes MMA exciting is knowing that a weaker fighter can beat a better fighter on any given day.

Just like boxing. Point is people are getting pushed, and some are getting fed as jobbers, despite their ability to pull an upset. There ARE politics. Open up your eyes.

And Dana isn't afraid to market people he likes as a golden god. (Rich Franklin.)

Of course you would, if you are'nt just the casual fan and you know what to look for. They can't script it so a guy knocks another one out, there's too much of a chance that the other guy could get ko'd instead. If you wanted to make it an exciting fight both guys would have to get hit.

ROFL, causal fan. I have never been in a fight, so I obvviously can't relate right? I don't watch hours and hours of UFC so I dont know what to look for, right? I have no formal training so I dont know what to look for right? Wait. All that was bs, I've been in plenty of fights, I watch MMA constantly, and I have YEARS of formal training. Oh. And people who cant say that still no whats up. you're just nieve.

And all that shit you just said APPLIES TO BOXING AS WELL. PEOPLE TAKE DIVES IN BOXING ALL THE DAMN TIME AND FOR THE MOST PART NO ONE EVER NOTICES.

Rich Fanklin was a good fighter before he got "pushed" look at his record and the opponets he beat. Sure, after he won the belt he was more marketable, because he was the champion and he was american. BTW no one is getting fed as jobbers, as a fighter you think you can beat anyone, even if you can't, being the fact that I am a MMA fighter, I think I can beat anyone I step in with, even if maybe I can't.

Yeah they can have the opprotunity to beat a credible fighter, a main event fighter, but its unlikley thats why the feed them to the big boys. Dana White is trying to be a legit Vince McMahon, and it works to some extent but UFC won't draw like WWE does ever, because it is pit fighting, nothing more. Boxers take dives, baseball players, football players, in any sport it happens and more often than not we never have a clue. Dana wants to be as famous as McMahon, his feud with Tito is/was pathetic, absolutley lame. UFC is my favorite fight promotion by far but I am getting sick of all the bullshit they are adding.

People get fed average fighters all the time, as enhancement matches. Ar eyou kidding yourslef or just blind?

Where do you fight?