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Xero 05-11-2007 04:10 PM

Spring cleaning has begun. The Con Man is gone.
 
World Wrestling Entertainment announced the release of Rob Conway this afternoon. Conway was last seen appearing on Ohio Valley Wrestling's 400th TV episode, wrestling CM Punk. He was "fired" from an on camera role by Vince McMahon last January on Monday Night Raw, but had since teamed with Sylvan Grenier in dark matches.

Conway had been on the main WWE roster since 2000. As a member of the La Resistance tag team, Conway held the WWE Tag Team championships on three occasions. An attempt to package him as a singles star was never really sustained by the company.

From PWInsider

So it's Conway and Scorpio so far.

The One 05-11-2007 04:12 PM

Wow, he was with the company for 7 years???

Whatever...

Kane Knight 05-11-2007 04:14 PM

Just look at me now
Moved to Velocity
Now it's the unemployment line for me....

Blitz 05-11-2007 04:16 PM

Nice.

Xero 05-11-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Just look at me now
Moved to Velocity
TNA, be prepared for jobbin' me


Shaggy 05-11-2007 04:22 PM

I liked Conway...this blows...granted I also didnt know that he was still with the company.

BigDaddyCool 05-11-2007 04:28 PM

I didn't read the thread title right and thought it said Cor Von was gone. Which wouldn't make any sence.

Theo Dious 05-11-2007 04:45 PM

OMG CONWAY WAZ THE BEXT EVARZ WWE SUX HE SHOLD HAV GONE 2 SMACKWODN AN BEN CHAMP CAUS HE RULZ AND HE WILL MAKE TNA THE BEST COMAPNY IN RESLING AND GO 2 HELL VINCE MCMANN

Theo Dious 05-11-2007 04:46 PM

And actually, yeah for a second I also thought we were talking about Cor Von. Thought Conway got fired after he was fired on-camera.

IC Champion 05-11-2007 04:51 PM

Meh

JT 05-11-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious
And actually, yeah for a second I also thought we were talking about Cor Von. Thought Conway got fired after he was fired on-camera.

Only person I remember that ever really happening to was Ron Simmons

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2007 05:02 PM

Much like Scorpio, this is a lot of wasted talent, so it is stupid on the WWE's behalf of not using it to maximum capacity. This release is a good thing, in my opinion, however.

Rob Conway is not going to have trouble finding employment. He was a top guy in OVW under Jim Cornette, and with Cornette now in TNA, you have to believe that some strings will be pulled, and Conway will eventually find his way into the company.

Conway could also viably go to Ring of Honor. They apparently showed interest in Doug Basham when he was released, so I can't see why they wouldn't go after Conway, who is another great wrestler from OVW's glory days. He'll have some time shedding the WWE association, but after a few great matches, people will probably accept him as the guy with potential, again.

BigDaddyCool 05-11-2007 05:07 PM

Alienoid, do you just love the flavor of vanilla?

Stickman 05-11-2007 05:11 PM

I thought he was realeased a long time ago.

ClockShot 05-11-2007 05:21 PM

Dammit. This sucks.

He had the potential to go far. And had some good theme music too.

Kane Knight 05-11-2007 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Alienoid, do you just love the flavor of vanilla?

Conway never struck me as Vanilla so much as a guy who was stuck in lame ass gimmick after another.

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Alienoid, do you just love the flavor of vanilla?

I do watch the WWE occasionally, yes.

Seriously, Rob Conway may not have lit the world on fire in WWE, but he's a talented guy. He can wrestle, he's capable on the mic. He never really got the chance he deserved in the WWE. I'm not saying he could have been the next Rock, or anything, but he was solid on all counts, and got put in two gimmicks which are re-used over and over again. Playing an evil foreigner (despite not being foreign) and becoming a narcissist is not going to set the world on fire.

Mr. JL 05-11-2007 05:31 PM

Welcome to TNA Buff Bagwell 2.0!

chrisat928 05-11-2007 05:32 PM

So when do you think he'll show up in TNA?
How long after that do you think he'll get the title?

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisat928
So when do you think he'll show up in TNA?
How long after that do you think he'll get the title?

Conway won't get the title. Within his first year, he'd be lucky if he won their tag titles.

Mr. JL 05-11-2007 05:47 PM

The Dudleys haven't even won the NWA tag titles after almost two years of being there.

Xero 05-11-2007 05:49 PM

They're the current champions...

darkpower 05-11-2007 05:51 PM

Love that answer that Alienoid gave in response to BDC's strange ass question.

But while I don't like it (the release, he was constantly on RAW as far as I can remember. Seriously, can't recall them moving him even briefly, so they couldn't just use him on SD or ECW?), makes some sense to just get rid of the people you're not going to use for anything other than retarded gimmicks.

Maybe TNA or ROH will get him and do something with him. Hopefully. He's got the work ethic to work with what a company gives him (he showed that with the WWE), and he certainly got some talent.

Kane Knight 05-11-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06
Seriously, Rob Conway may not have lit the world on fire in WWE, but he's a talented guy. He can wrestle, he's capable on the mic.

Like 80% of the wrestling world. Give him a cookie.

Xero 05-11-2007 05:55 PM

Bobby Lashley is shit on the mic and look where he is.

BigDaddyCool 05-11-2007 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
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Originally Posted by Alienoid06
Seriously, Rob Conway may not have lit the world on fire in WWE, but he's a talented guy. He can wrestle, he's capable on the mic.

Like 80% of the wrestling world. Give him a cookie.

Which is why I called him vanilla. Now you see how I'm right.

taker707 05-11-2007 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
They're the current champions...



ya we know this. but it did take them almost two years to get them.

taker707 05-11-2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Bobby Lashley is shit on the mic and look where he is.


True but lashley is huge and we all know mchmahon has a fetish for huge guys.

Kane Knight 05-11-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Which is why I called him vanilla. Now you see how I'm right.

I see it more as "Now You see how wrong Alienoid is."

The thing is, no matter how standout or generic, Alienoid uses the same 4 or 5 generic bits of praise, none of them really meaningful.

Yeha, he's soilid on the mic and solid in the ring. Him and the majority of people currently cashing a check.

I mean, That works for everyone from Doug and Danny BAsham (And you really don't get much more unspectacular and vanilla) to RVD, Cena, and Taker. God, there's only a few people in WWE who aren't solid. By those standards, which are prety mediocre, almost everyone should be guaranteed a job for life.

Conway would never be ME material, but I think he managed to do quite a bit with a gaytarded gimmick, nd he could probably at least make it to niche status.

Don't blame Conway for Alienoid's shortcomings.

Xero 05-11-2007 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by taker707
True but lashley is huge and we all know mchmahon has a fetish for huge guys.

Shut the fuck up.

And don't PM me retarded questions.

The One 05-11-2007 08:37 PM

Conway was bland. Trust me, no one is going to tune into HeAT and wonder where Conway is. Quite frankly, I hope to never see him again, not that he was so terrible, just that he was so nothing. He could move in the ring, work the stick, and draw decent heat. Whatever, pretty much every pro can. He had next to no charisma, and personally I'm tired of this "He may not be the next Rock, Austin, blah blah blah" crap. If they're not going to amount to something...why keep them on? I'm sure they get pay increases every so often, so if they really won't amount to being a money maker, why keep giving him the pay ups when you could go walk into any indy and find at least one guy who's just as good, willing to do the work for half as much, and who knows, may possibly actually BECOME something. WWE is overflowing with guys who aren't terrible but don't have that special something, and let me tell you something, after a while of beige, it becomes terrible. This isn't to say Conway sucks, just that I'm sick and tired of being force fed random guys who as "not terrible" as they may be, are nothing more than filler to get to the handful of guys who are worth a damn, but up until recently have been stretched apart by 2 companies, one of which has three different brands. Wrestling sucks today because fans have grown tired of putting up with "no terrible" to deal with the 4 or 5 guys per show who are actually "really good."

KayfabeMan 05-11-2007 08:43 PM

I didn't like him.

Can't believe he'd been there that long, though looking back, I can.

FourFifty 05-11-2007 09:13 PM

And yet somehow nobody cares.

Kane Knight 05-11-2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The One
Conway was bland. Trust me, no one is going to tune into HeAT and wonder where Conway is.

The problem is...

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Originally Posted by The One
Trust me, no one is going to tune into HeAT.


PepperCarrotMan 05-11-2007 10:30 PM

Conway was awesome. I'M PISSED NOW.

Kane Knight 05-11-2007 11:01 PM

Finally, TNA has their breakway star.

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2007 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I see it more as "Now You see how wrong Alienoid is."

LOL! You are such a dick. We both made the exact same argument: Conway isn't vanilla. What kind of pussy shit are you pulling?

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
The thing is, no matter how standout or generic, Alienoid uses the same 4 or 5 generic bits of praise, none of them really meaningful.

You're just retarded. What kind of watered down insult is that? There are only so many things you can praise a guy on. Sorry I don't praise a guy in the professional wrestling business for curing cancer.

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Yeha, he's soilid on the mic and solid in the ring. Him and the majority of people currently cashing a check.

I'm one of the few guys here who sees the good in talent on every level. For a guy who seems to obsessed with me, studying my posts, working out I only say the same 4 or 5 words of praises for a guy (I still don't understand that, what am I meant to say?), and picking me out for the smallest shit. And don't spin this (like we all know you will). I'm not making this all about me, you're the one who tore into me for having the exact same argument as you.

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I mean, That works for everyone from Doug and Danny BAsham (And you really don't get much more unspectacular and vanilla) to RVD, Cena, and Taker. God, there's only a few people in WWE who aren't solid. By those standards, which are prety mediocre, almost everyone should be guaranteed a job for life.

So what's your fucking point? Are you claiming he's vanilla or not? You're such a fucking dickhead. Pick a side and stick to it. You flip-flop and spin around so much, anyone would think you're AJ Styles. Maybe we should start calling you vanilla?

Conway is above solid. I won't make a list of all the guys he is better than (in my opinion), but my point was that he never got a good chance to utilise his abilities in WWE. He can wrestle better than most of the guys employed by the WWE, so why was he one of the first released? They had nothing for him, true, but that's why I wrote storylines for guys, to prove how fucking easy it is to change that. Having nothing for a guy is not an excuse for not thinking of something.

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Conway would never be ME material, but I think he managed to do quite a bit with a gaytarded gimmick, nd he could probably at least make it to niche status.

That was my fucking point, cockface. Now go change your argument again. Once again, you are a dick. You are just as much in disagreement with BDC as I am.

KK Mode: Don't worry, KK only ever uses the same 4 or 5 levels to describe a wrestler's position on the card. You have to take him lightly. I agree with him, but he's the one who's wrong.

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Don't blame Conway for Alienoid's shortcomings.

Yeah, because I was the guy who came up with the retarded characters for him, booked his matches; told him what he can and can't do to get over, how to act, and ultimately fired him. Fuck, you are so retarded it's not funny. Although, perhaps if I could actually see the real-life consequences of your retardedness, it would be.

Kane Knight 05-12-2007 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06
LOL! You are such a dick. We both made the exact same argument: Conway isn't vanilla. What kind of pussy shit are you pulling?

Ummm, tardboy, I didn't argue any words that described 90% of wrestlers today, verifying the vanilla statement.

Thanks for once against confirming that you can't read.

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What kind of watered down insult is that? There are only so many things you can praise a guy on. Sorry I don't praise a guy in the professional wrestling business for curing cancer.
Strawman. You're throwing a tantrum because someone called you on empty, generic platitudes.

Nobody said they should be able to cure cancer.

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I'm one of the few guys here who sees the good in talent on every level.
No matter hwo vanilla. I mean, you're not even trying to help your argument. :lol:

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For a guy who seems to obsessed with me, studying my posts, working out I only say the same 4 or 5 words of praises for a guy
Yes. Because I have an attention span and memory, I am clearly obssessed.

:lol:

This is at least a K3 Spazz out.

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(I still don't understand that, what am I meant to say?)
Generally when arguing that someone is not vanilla, something that isn't, in and of itself, vanilla?

Oh, wait, you don't understand that. Too many hard words for the little baby.

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nd picking me out for the smallest shit.
Says the bitch who's whining about an "insult" I didn't make.

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And don't spin this (like we all know you will). I'm not making this all about me, you're the one who tore into me for having the exact same argument as you.
OH WAAAA! YOU'RE SPINNING THIS.

Come on. You're so full of shit it's borderline tragic. You always complain I'm "spinning" shit because I don't immediately agree with you.

Guess what? They're different arguments. Mostly because I didn't describe them in vanilla terms. Something, you'll note, I called you on, and was what BDC used to indicate he was right.

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So what's your fucking point? Are you claiming he's vanilla or not? You're such a fucking dickhead.
:lol:
I don't know what you mean!

This is too complicated for me!

My point was that you described all but a handful of people on the roster with those terms. You're too stupid to see that, because you can't understand that it's possible to actually have more than your linear, tiny mindset or the mindset of the opposition.

In other words, you're stupid. You're calling me a dickhead because my opinion is option 3: I still don't think he's vanilla, but your argument is stupid and applies to EVERYONE. Which in and of itself, is vanilla.

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Pick a side and stick to it. You flip-flop and spin around so much, anyone would think you're AJ Styles. Maybe we should start calling you vanilla?
Again, you're too stupid to get it. My opinion hasn't changed. That doesn't mean I can't criticise an argument that I fdind to be retarded.

You complain about flip-flopping because you're too busy getting offended to actually try thinking. You know, critical thinking and reasoning. Heard of them? Probably not. Would have made half your K3 spazz out moot.

But why think critically when you can whine?

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Yeah, because I was the guy who came up with the retarded characters for him, booked his matches; told him what he can and can't do to get over, how to act, and ultimately fired him. Fuck, you are so retarded it's not funny. Although, perhaps if I could actually see the real-life consequences of your retardedness, it would be.
Ironic, coming from the retard who had to make up his argument here, by arguing against a strawman.

I mean, it's nice to hide behind that shit, if you're a three year old.

I love the "you're retarded because I've made up off the wall arguments and because I'm flipping out at things I'm too stupid to understand." Yes, Alienoid. You can't understand it, which makes the OTHER guy retarded. You make a strawman, so the other guy is retarded.

Did mommy forget to tie your mittens on today or something? Poor baby.

Kane Knight 05-12-2007 10:22 AM

Ahh, Hell. I forget. When dealing with stupid people, keep your answers short, so they stand a chance of understanding them.

My stance: BDC is wrong. Alienoid is wrong. Alienoid is saying that what I said is what he meant, but he poorly communicated that, and thinks I'm somehow at fault for being able to actually communicate words and feelings. Alienoid's dumb.

Londoner 05-12-2007 10:29 AM

Fuck, i wonder how long Alienoids reply will be.

Anyhow, who's next I wonder? Couldn't give a shit about Conway.


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