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Jeritron 05-30-2007 07:15 PM

Which trilogy has been this generations "trilogy"?
 
I don't mean a comparison to Star Wars, or neccesarily which is the better made film series technically. I mean culturally and popularity-wise, as well as how memorable and influential it has been. In terms of classic moments, characters, it's longevity, and it's popularity with all demographics. Which of these trilogies takes the cake as this generations saga?
I suppose box office gross, critical reception, and cultural impact are all factors but not criteria.

Stickman 05-30-2007 07:24 PM

It's really tough. I'm not a huge fan of any of those three but it seems like Spiderman rules all.

Gonzo 05-30-2007 07:44 PM

Spiderman appeals to more of the general masses as does Pirates. LOTR was popular, but I think a bigger portion of that fanbase is hardcore fans of the book etc.

I happen to like LOTR first, Pirates, then Spiderman, but it wouldn't kill me to have never seen the Spiderman movies.

Kalyx triaD 05-30-2007 07:48 PM

I think LotR will be looked back in a way we look at the original Star Wars trilogy. The appeal will survive the test of time.

IC Champion 05-30-2007 07:53 PM

There all gay.

Kalyx triaD 05-30-2007 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic
There all gay.

And you're far from an Instant Classic.

Disturbed316 05-30-2007 07:58 PM

LOTR

Mr Regal 05-30-2007 08:01 PM

Box office wise Pirates rules.

But LOTR is the shit.

Jeritron 05-30-2007 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Regal
Box office wise Pirates rules.

But LOTR is the shit.

Pirates is significantly behind the Spiderman trilogy, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and both Star wars trilogies in terms of box office take down, both domestically and worldwide.
Even if At World's End bring in another 300 mill domestically, it will still trail them.

Jeritron 05-30-2007 08:14 PM

which it most definitely won't

and it's also not on a list adjusted for inflation

wwe2222 05-30-2007 08:39 PM

Hmm...

I would have to put them in this order:

LOTR
Pirates
Spiderman

I dont care for the Spiderman Trilogy...2 was the only entertaining one IMO. One was ok, but was just blah for me. 2 was good. I could barely sit through 3 and most of the actors throughout the series annoyed me.

Better Than You 05-30-2007 10:04 PM

Very easily LotR. Nerds have a hard time letting things die, it will out last most of the trilogies with out trying. It's only competiton is Star Wars. And it's freaking STAR WARS.

mitch_h 05-30-2007 10:55 PM

I think the Matrix had the oppurtunity to be our generations trilogy... it's a shame the sequels sucked though.

CSL 05-30-2007 11:04 PM

<font color=white>None of 'em are as good as Die Hard.

:shifty: </font>

ClockShot 05-30-2007 11:04 PM

Very very tough.

I guess I'll put Lord of the Rings up top first. I guess it kinda appealed to us adults more than kids. Also, a great cast. Some put them on the map, others may or may not have faded away. Pete Jackson did a great job bring this book to the screen.

Pirates (no, not the porn flick) will be in the middle. Johnny Depp gave us a character we'll never forget, and Disney got the guts to make a real "guy" movie instead of sticking to kids movies and cartoons. Keira Knightley was hot and Orlando Bloom gets another trilogy under his belt. You can always count on this to rake in the cash, if another one does come around.

Web-Head is down on the bottom. Marvel's main man will keep the kids happy with the action. But sorta bummed out the die hard fans. The first one was pretty good, the second was great, the third rather disapointing. I guess Tobey Maguire played a good Peter Parker, Dunst a fair MaryJane Watson. Count on Marvel to keep cranking out great comic flicks in the future.

Honorable mentions go to the X-Men trilogy, and The Matrix.

El Fangel 05-30-2007 11:05 PM

Lord of The Rings.

Great story which they did not fuck up, stunning and captivating visuals, perfect casting choices. Great trilogy in general

Pirates/Spiderman - Both great starts and progressivly worse.

Kane Knight 05-31-2007 12:26 AM

Spider-Man, within the definitions Jeritron gave. No Way Pirates or Lord of the Rings can compete.

JT 05-31-2007 12:58 AM

I would like to say Pirates as they had more the Star Wars feel with movies and I enjoyed them alot more than the boring ass LotR movies, but LotR has had the SW attraction and nominations for the Oscars, so it wins.

I don't count superhero movies in the trilogy arguements, expecially since it doesn't seem they are finished up yet.

Jeritron 05-31-2007 01:57 AM

well I put trilogy in quotation marks. Lotr will obv stay a trilogy, unless Hobbit is made in the same continuity (same cast). Which it very well might.

As for Pirates and Spidey, they will both be continued in some way or another. Either way both trilogies have been wrapped up and concluded in 3 movies, unless of course Raimi and Macguire return. They may, or they may get the Batman treatment and be recast, reimagined and after that flops, restarted down the road.

As for Pirates, this trilogy is at an end. They will probably make a prequel or another sequel trilogy, but the only real staple would probably be Sparrow. It'd kinda be a new trilogy or chapter in itself, similar to Star Wars 1-3 or The Hobbit if it's made.

Blitz 05-31-2007 02:50 AM

I don't know if any of them will achieve the status of Star Wars.

LoDownM 05-31-2007 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz
I don't know if any of them will achieve the status of Star Wars.

If any of them were to come close, it would probaly be LOTR.

Jeritron 05-31-2007 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz
I don't know if any of them will achieve the status of Star Wars.

I didn't mean to imply that at all. I just meant which was superior as this generations trilogy. Not this generations Star Wars.

Nothing touches Star Wars 4-6, and I personally hate when modern trilogies are compared. Rather, I was just asking which was similar in a broad sense I suppose.

Mr Regal 05-31-2007 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
Pirates is significantly behind the Spiderman trilogy, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, and both Star wars trilogies in terms of box office take down, both domestically and worldwide.
Even if At World's End bring in another 300 mill domestically, it will still trail them.

I was thinking more about breaking the opening week records and the like :-\

Jeritron 05-31-2007 06:17 AM

The one credit I will give Pirates in this debate, since it seems to be getting no love, is the fact that it has Disney in it's corner.
The Pirates films, especially the Jack Sparrow character, will stay alive and probably household names simply because they're part of the Disney family. From being part of a classic ride, theme parks, and the Disney legend it will stick around.

I give the Pirates sequels a lot of shit, but I do recognize the first as a semi-classic in the making. It's certainly the greatest live action Disney film to date, and will remain a household name because of it's distributor and owner.

Jeritron 05-31-2007 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Regal
I was thinking more about breaking the opening week records and the like :-\

I hate to be the stat geek, but...

Spiderman3 holds the opening weekend record over Dead Man's Chest, which comes in second, by a large margin.

As for the other installments, the original Spiderman ranks third behind DMC, but ranks well above At World's End.
Spiderman2 ranks further down the list, but ahead of the original pirates.

So for every Pirates movies opening weekend totals, there's at least one Spiderman film that outranks it. Whereas Pirates only manages to outrank them once, and not for the ultimate lead.
Spiderman holds the 1st and 3rd spots on the all-time list.
Pirates holds the 2nd and 5th.
And though the other 2 respective films are further down the list, Spidey has the win there too.
So it's not really a contest in that aspect of box-office measurement either.

Boxofficemojo.com is a great site

Jeritron 05-31-2007 06:24 AM

Also, if you adjust the list for inflation, and it is judge sheerly by ticket sales, Spidey 1 even takes down DMC.

Of course, inflation is a huge part of any box-office argument. When you look at the list of inflation, Spiderman 3 and Dead Man's Chest which appear to be all-time powerhouses, failed to sell as many tickets as films like Ghostbusters and the original Batman among many others

For example, all time domestic gross, Pirates of the Caribbean ranks like 4th or 5th all time or something like that. But if you adjust inflation and measure it by asses in seats, it's something like 44th all time. Not too impressive.

Mr Regal 05-31-2007 07:41 AM

You don't have a job do you?

Jeritron 05-31-2007 09:54 AM

took about 5 minutes and 10 mouseclicks to find out, but yes I do

Kane Knight 05-31-2007 10:15 AM

Naw, man, you found an internet site with handy facts and used it. Clearly, you must dedicate your life to box office numbers.

Jeritron 05-31-2007 10:18 AM

I know man, it takes lots of sacrifice and dedication. God knows nobody could just loosely remember the top record holders from sheer memory and paying attention to current events

Kane Knight 05-31-2007 10:53 AM

When I was in college, I dd research for an paper I wrote, instead of making stuff up. It took all of an hour or two, and my professor wrote at the bottom "LAWLZ-Get a life."

Jeritron 05-31-2007 11:21 AM

When I looked up the showtimes before I went to the movie, the kid at the ticket counter told me I have too much time on my hands. I filled out an application on the spot

Mr Regal 05-31-2007 11:47 AM

Fucking internet hippies

Stickman 05-31-2007 03:11 PM

BTW, the Star Wars trilogy were shit....there I said it.

Kane Knight 06-02-2007 01:56 AM

Ruling out any of these series because they're not really a trilogy is stupid.

LotR will have a fourth movie, intended as art of the same series. Not a trilogy.

The odds that Spidey or Pirates will remain three movies are about the same as me walking on water.


So...

They're all trilogies, or they're none of them trilogies.

I don't think any of these count as the best, but really. Pirates and Spider-Man both blow away Lord of the Rings in terms of fan acceptance and response, which is what makes something a cultural phenomenon, a classic, etc.

I'm not shitting on LotR, but still.

Downunder 06-02-2007 03:34 AM

Shrek

Gonzo 06-02-2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Ruling out any of these series because they're not really a trilogy is stupid.

LotR will have a fourth movie, intended as art of the same series. Not a trilogy.

The odds that Spidey or Pirates will remain three movies are about the same as me walking on water.


So...

They're all trilogies, or they're none of them trilogies.

I don't think any of these count as the best, but really. Pirates and Spider-Man both blow away Lord of the Rings in terms of fan acceptance and response, which is what makes something a cultural phenomenon, a classic, etc.

I'm not shitting on LotR, but still.

The Hobbit is a seperate Tolkien story acting as a bit of a prelude to LOTR, LOTR is an actual trilogy. Thats how the books go, I'm sure you know this anyways.

Kane Knight 06-02-2007 09:24 PM

Quote:

LotR will have a fourth movie, intended as art of the same series. Not a trilogy.
We're talking about the movies, here. I'm sure you know this anyways.

St. Jimmy 06-02-2007 11:35 PM

Shrek, obviously.

El Fangel 06-03-2007 12:00 AM

I fully agree with Blitz and LodownM's replie.


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