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What Would Kevin Do? 07-13-2007 02:38 PM

Ugh... Sony, why must you be retarded?
 
Don't get me wrong, I love my :PS3, but sony is just shooting themselves in the fucking foot.

If you haven't heard, the "Price cut" is more of a markdown... Apparently Sony dropped the $100 off to move the remaining stock of the 60gb model, and once that's done, they'll discontinue it, leaving the new 599 package...

Hopefully Sony gets enough bad press and rethinks their decision...... If not, they're fucking up big.

KingofOldSchool 07-13-2007 02:49 PM

:rofl:

chrisat928 07-13-2007 03:03 PM

I heard this was Sony Europe that announced this, not Sony America. So until SoA announces this, who cares? I already got two PS3s, so who cares?

KingofOldSchool 07-13-2007 03:10 PM

Kaz clears up the confusion



"[There is no] two SKU strategy in the US. We found out very quickly customers respond to just having one SKU."

"We dropped the price on the 60GB model, as you know that model is no longer in production. Once that model is no longer on store shelves there's just the $600 SKU."

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235

What Would Kevin Do? 07-13-2007 03:14 PM

Fucking A brillant Sony...

KingofOldSchool 07-13-2007 03:16 PM

Us Americans are retarded and can't tell the difference between two different versions of the same product.

What Would Kevin Do? 07-13-2007 03:33 PM

Apparently... What's worse is that the new "model" is worthless if you don't want Motorstorm... 100 more for 20gbs of memory.... They need to keep the 60gb and keep it at 499

KingofOldSchool 07-13-2007 03:34 PM

Oh and I guess they are doing away with the backwards compatibility.

What Would Kevin Do? 07-13-2007 03:35 PM

Where'd you see that?

I thought they were making the new model the same as whatever the EU one has.... It has X amount of games that the BC doesn't work on, but patches fix that...

Xero 07-13-2007 03:40 PM

LOL, wow, Sony is really fucking up. They had something great with the PS2, it was no question the biggest console last gen in terms of library size and quality within that library. Now they have very little games (even for this time in release) and hardly any are worth playing, plus they've lost a good chunk of their exclusives.

Silent 07-13-2007 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
Oh and I guess they are doing away with the backwards compatibility.

You mean they are going to use emulation instead of actually packing in the Emotion-Engine chip, right? I haven't heard anything about them actually removing backwards compatibility so I'm curious.

Stickman 07-13-2007 04:15 PM

I'm kind of confused. What exactly did they do to be retarded? I dont' keep up on the latest trends in video game consols.

road doggy dogg 07-13-2007 04:23 PM

hahaha ps3

Kane Knight 07-13-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg
hahaha ps3


What Would Kevin Do? 07-13-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickman
I'm kind of confused. What exactly did they do to be retarded? I dont' keep up on the latest trends in video game consols.

They announced a $100 price drop for the 60gb ps3, and introduced an 80gb PS3, that comes packaged with Motorstorm, for $599.

A few days later, it comes out that they're not producing any more of the 60gb model, and the price drop is to sell off the inventory of them. So essentially, it's a price drop while supplies last, and then back to a 599 model.

Stickman 07-13-2007 05:25 PM

so what does the 60GB sell for now after the price drop?

Xero 07-13-2007 05:34 PM

$499.

Stickman 07-13-2007 06:13 PM

sorry, but I don't see why this makes sony retarded. People will still buy it and I bet the mark up is insane.

Kane Knight 07-13-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickman
sorry, but I don't see why this makes sony retarded. People will still buy it and I bet the mark up is insane.

Well, my slow Canadian friend, it's mostly that they are discontinuing the 60 GB model.

This isn't a price cut, it's clearance. They're getting rid of the 60 GB model, and selling only a more expensive model which has 20 GB more and Motorstorm as extras.

I'm not even sure why you're so fixated on the price.

Also, the PS3 is taking the biggest hit per unit of the three consoles. So no, the markup isn't insane.

G 07-13-2007 09:15 PM

BUT GUYS MGS4 IS COMING!!!!!!11

Kane Knight 07-13-2007 09:48 PM

Well, you changed my mind. I'll piss my money away on a system to get one game, which will likely be ported within a year, despite the decline of said series.

KingofOldSchool 07-13-2007 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Well, you changed my mind. I'll piss my money away on a system to get one game, which will likely be ported within a year, despite the decline of said series.

BUT THE GRAPHICS!11!1 OMGZ THE GRAPHICS MAKE UP FOR EVERYTHING ELSE!1!!

mrslackalack 07-13-2007 10:24 PM

I have to say that PS3 is in 3rd right now behind Wii and 360.

mrslackalack 07-13-2007 10:25 PM

Even the PSP is lagging in sales compared to the DS. I even heard on T.V. that UMD's might end as well.

KingofOldSchool 07-13-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mrslackalack
Even the PSP is lagging in sales compared to the DS. I even heard on T.V. that UMD's might end as well.

Well hello Captain Obvious!

Kane Knight 07-13-2007 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mrslackalack
Even the PSP is lagging in sales compared to the DS. I even heard on T.V. that UMD's might end as well.

EVEN the PSP? Come on, the PSP's been doing horrible for like, forever.

And UMDs have been effectively dead for almost a year. They've been on life support.

I just wish the DS would put out more kickass games. seriously.

KingofOldSchool 07-13-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
EVEN the PSP? Come on, the PSP's been doing horrible for like, forever.

And UMDs have been effectively dead for almost a year. They've been on life support.

I just wish the DS would put out more kickass games. seriously.

I take it you don't like puzzle games much?

Boomer 07-13-2007 11:05 PM

How can you possibly expect Sony to outduel Nintendo in the handheld console market? I have a PSP and I like it very much and I think Sony has put out a good product. I have just as much fun with my DS. I like Sony at least attempting to make a name for themselves in a market that was pretty much taken over by another company completely.

Kane Knight 07-13-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
I take it you don't like puzzle games much?

Actually, I have a lot of puzzle games. I just want some depth to the roster.

Kane Knight 07-13-2007 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer
How can you possibly expect Sony to outduel Nintendo in the handheld console market? I have a PSP and I like it very much and I think Sony has put out a good product. I have just as much fun with my DS. I like Sony at least attempting to make a name for themselves in a market that was pretty much taken over by another company completely.

LOL.

Boomer 07-13-2007 11:28 PM

I'm glad you enjoy having me around.

Kane Knight 07-13-2007 11:50 PM

I do. I enjoy the logic there a lot. Though I agree with the first statement.

Boomer 07-13-2007 11:54 PM

I just like seeing more than one company in the market, thats all. The logic may be a bit flawed, yes.

Sepholio 07-14-2007 01:38 AM

Er, PSP has been heavily improving recently in sales. UMD was almost gone for movies, an now it is making a resurgence in sales and is being brought back to stores that quit selling them. Plus they announced a new PSP model. Explain to me how that equates to the PSP not doing good or the UMD being canned?

Sepholio 07-14-2007 01:41 AM

Also, in terms of consoles, the PS3 is lagging because it is the most expensive AND the hardest to develop for. Once a permanent price drop comes in and developers find easier ways to create software (which ALWAYS happens around the 2nd or 3rd generation of titles for a console), PS3 will take off. Most industry experts say tha PS3 will stay behind in sales and what-not until 2009-2010, then will blow past the 360 and Wii, and crush them horribly in the long-run.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-14-2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickman
sorry, but I don't see why this makes sony retarded. People will still buy it and I bet the mark up is insane.

If you mean mark uo from Sony, you're wrong. Making a loss per console sold.

Sepholio 07-14-2007 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney
If you mean mark uo from Sony, you're wrong. Making a loss per console sold.

This is the main reason I'll stick with Sony. Any company willing to lose several hundred dollars PER console is obviously producing a superior machine, trying to make their fans happier, and planning for the long run.

And don't give me that shit about how Microsoft has lost 1 Billion USD on the 360. I doubt they planned for their machine to be fucked up and full of bugs, resulting in them having to pay out the ass to repair all the damaged consoles. Or if they did plan on it, it means they knew they were marketting a shitty product and just released it to cash in on the market by being the first out of the gate.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-14-2007 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Seph
This is the main reason I'll stick with Sony. Any company willing to lose several hundred dollars PER console is obviously producing a superior machine, trying to make their fans happier, and planning for the long run.

And don't give me that shit about how Microsoft has lost 1 Billion USD on the 360. I doubt they planned for their machine to be fucked up and full of bugs, resulting in them having to pay out the ass to repair all the damaged consoles. Or if they did plan on it, it means they knew they were marketting a shitty product and just released it to cash in on the market by being the first out of the gate.

Even before the problems, MS were losing cash per console sold.

In fact, Nintendo are the only manufacturer to be making a profit per console, including PSP. MS are maing a profit on the XBox division now though, the 360 has an attach rate of close to 6 games per 360 console owner.

Sepholio 07-14-2007 02:11 AM

Of course Nintendo is the only one making a profit. Outside of their amazing motion sensor technology, which I think will become very niche once people realize that the Wii really is going to have shitty software since nobody besides Nintendo is making good games for the Wii, they are selling an inferior product. The ONLY reason they are leading in sales is because they are super cheap compared to other consoles. Hell, they are cheaper than consoles of the LAST generation at debut by a ways, too.

Shaggy 07-14-2007 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool
BUT THE GRAPHICS!11!1 OMGZ THE GRAPHICS MAKE UP FOR EVERYTHING ELSE!1!!

except for the $600 that will be missing out of my pocket....


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