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Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 06:46 PM

If Dean Malenko hadn't retired, do you think he would have been as successful...
 
...as Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit? Just a thought I had. Malenko was the man.

Mercury Bullet 07-21-2007 06:49 PM

I don't think he would have, but he should have been. He was great but I think he lacked the size and the 'look' the WWE would want in a main eventer.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 06:53 PM

Well, if Rey Mysterio could hold the title...

But yeah, I guess fans didn't really get behind Malenko like they did with Rey. Remember that 007 gimmick? WTF was that all about?

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:10 PM

Naw, the fact that Benoit ever got over on just pure athleticism and hard work is a miracle in itself in this business. I don't think Malenko has what Benoit and Guererro had. He could move, he knew a shitload of holds, but had little charisma from what I could see, and he is a rather small individual.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:12 PM

What if Jericho would have been behind him the whole time calling him Stinko Malenko? You think that would've helped?

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:13 PM

Naw, it just would've elevated Jericho past the god status that he already has.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:15 PM

What if he had a belt that spun? Would that have helped?

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:17 PM

Who would ever come up with such a stupid idea? I've had it with these ludacris hypothetical situations...

A spinning belt. Terrible.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:20 PM

What if he would've faked fucking a corpse? Is that more believeable?

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:22 PM

Triple H once faked fucking a fake corpse. I don't think anybody has ever faked fucking an actual corpse.

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:22 PM

So no, unbelievable.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:26 PM

What if The Radicalz had a cheerleader gimmick?

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:26 PM

Then they would've been the Spirit Squad.

Is there any point to your incoherence?

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:30 PM

What if he had a glittery storm trooper helmet and a wicked sweet entrance?

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:33 PM

Alright. You win. FUCK.

Instant main eventer then.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:37 PM

:cool:

I knew there had to have been a hypothetical situation out there somewhere that would catapult The Iceman to legendary status.

311 07-21-2007 07:38 PM

Malenko was great in the ring. And was alright when he was 'The Iceman,' and 'Man of a thousand holds.' He could just be himself, which was a rather boring, but capable performer.

As far as being a champion type draw...probably not.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:41 PM

Chris Benoit was pretty boring too, though.

FourFifty 07-21-2007 07:42 PM

"The Shooter" Dean Malenko would have been great. If the WWE writers could have planed it right he could have won the IC title by "shooting" when he was "booked to lose." Spread that round the internet, and you have an instant star.

Nark Order 07-21-2007 07:42 PM

CHRIS BENOIT NEVER EXISTED!

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:45 PM

I'm just saying if there WERE a guy named Chris Benoit who happened to win a World championship. :shifty:

The Fugitive 07-21-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Well, if Rey Mysterio could hold the title...

But yeah, I guess fans didn't really get behind Malenko like they did with Rey. Remember that 007 gimmick? WTF was that all about?

Double Ho Seven. I forgot about that.

Bah, stupid Youtube embedding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmQ8ArN_yY

Heyman 07-21-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
...as Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit? Just a thought I had. Malenko was the man.

Unfortunately, no.

Malenko didn't have anywhere near the necessary mic skills, charisma, or "look."

Malenko would've been IC champ at best (and even that might have been a stretch).

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:47 PM

If Santino Marella was an IC champ, Malenko definitely could've been.

If he were still around today, he'd probably be at about Chavo Guerrero status.

The Fugitive 07-21-2007 07:50 PM

Stuck in cruiserweight hell? Come on, the guy's short, but he's not THAT short that he would be trapped there. I think he would have broken out and would be in the US division, sort of in Finlay-terriority.

Anybody Thrilla 07-21-2007 07:52 PM

He'd be wrestling Matt Hardy 4 times a month or so.

The Fugitive 07-21-2007 07:54 PM

That sounds about right. Probably be jobber material for the next big thing as well.

James Steele 07-21-2007 09:17 PM

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Pepsi Man 07-21-2007 10:19 PM

No, not even close. I honestly always liked Dean MUCH more than Benoit, and probably about equal to Guerrero, if I'm being honest, but that was just me.

Dorkchop 07-21-2007 10:56 PM

He never would have been a main eventer in WWE. TNA I could imagine, but not WWE. He's not a big time promotion main eventer. IC at best, but even then I don't think he'd be a big name upper mid-carder. He was really great in the ring though.

I should Youtube him up and look for some Malenko 90s shit.

mrslackalack 07-21-2007 11:48 PM

As much as I would have liked to see Dean get a ME spot he wouldnt have because of many of the reasons already listed. I believe Malenko was getting up there in age as well wasnt he?

mrslackalack 07-21-2007 11:48 PM

Poor Dean, He was the only guy Lita turned down lol

mrslackalack 07-21-2007 11:49 PM

I marked out 10 years ago when Malenko was chosen #1 in the PWI 500 in 97.

Fox 07-21-2007 11:54 PM

Malenko was never meant to be a World Champion or main eventer. Not even back in the old territory days when you didn't NEED the charisma and "mic skills" to get over and be a main player the way you need them today, Malenko has and always will be too small to be a main event star.

You can say "But Rey Mysterio" all you want, but that was a poorly booked underdog main event scene, where Mysterio (and the World Title, by default) looked like wet paper that could be easily punched through. It wasn't successful, and it would never have been booked any other way.

Mysterio has the fan base because a) he looks like a superhero so little kids love him and b) he appeals to the large Hispanic audience.

Malenko looks like a cross between a midget and a regular sized man. His legs are all stubby and awkward. And the man cannot talk.


So no, never in a million years.

Dorkchop 07-22-2007 12:39 AM

Not everyone who is great in the ring is main event material. I think it's good enough for Dean Malenko to be remembered by smarks as one of the best wrestlers in the 90s.

IC Champion 07-22-2007 01:20 AM

He was too small by WWE standards.

Impeccable 07-22-2007 04:04 AM

Would he get over if he made a finlay like comeback? With his two friends dead, would he get the fans (and writers) sympathy push like Mysterio did?

#BROKEN Hasney 07-22-2007 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesSteele
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Dean Malenko is kinky?

True Brit Grit 07-22-2007 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impeccable
Would he get over if he made a finlay like comeback? With his two friends dead, would he get the fans (and writers) sympathy push like Mysterio did?

I think it would probably work but I get the impression he wouldn't want it - he seems pretty settled in his current role and is one of those you could picture having a job for life.

Rob 07-22-2007 03:28 PM

Malenko was working programs with Lita and Scotty 2 Hotty. No way he would have done better than this.


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