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BigDaddyCool 08-06-2007 02:58 PM

Best There Is, Best There Was, Best there ever will
 
I guess Bret never saw Kurt Angle coming. I'm pretty sure Kurt at his craziest would beat Bret at his finest.

What do you say.

Xero 08-06-2007 02:59 PM

Kurt Angle could take that title and I would not object. I honestly believe he's the best professional wrestler ever.

The One 08-06-2007 03:03 PM

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Kurt Angle is the man. No questions asked. Bret Hart is a bitch. No explanations needed.

The Man > A Bitch

addy2hotty 08-06-2007 03:04 PM

I agree. Kurt can play any role and is about the level of performer as Hart was in his heyday. But I could never buy Hart as a heel. He never looked convincing imo. That's where Angle is better. Hart could play babyface and that's about it. Angle feuded with EVERYONE and I can't remember one feud that was boring. Including his final feud with Cena.

Hart, despite my personal opinion about him, is one of the best ever - but Angle - in his prime - was better than Hart in his prime.

James Steele 08-06-2007 03:04 PM

There isn't anything Kurt Angle can't do in wrestling.

The One 08-06-2007 03:08 PM

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BigDaddyCool 08-06-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by addy2hotty
I agree. Kurt can play any role and is about the level of performer as Hart was in his heyday. But I could never buy Hart as a heel. He never looked convincing imo. That's where Angle is better. Hart could play babyface and that's about it. Angle feuded with EVERYONE and I can't remember one feud that was boring. Including his final feud with Cena.

Hart, despite my personal opinion about him, is one of the best ever - but Angle - in his prime - was better than Hart in his prime.

Kurt past his prime is still better than Hart during his prime.

The One 08-06-2007 03:10 PM

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The One 08-06-2007 03:12 PM

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Anybody Thrilla 08-06-2007 03:44 PM

Bret Hart was easily my favorite growing up, and he will always have a special place in my heart...but Kurt Angle is the best of all time.

Zen v.W.o. 08-06-2007 05:01 PM

Angle is highly overrated.

Wrestling wise, he thinks like an amateur, but he forgets to sell, he forgets to use proper psychology.

As for the entertainment side of things, Angle was fine as a dufus, but that's about it. Crazy, RAAAAWRRRR Angle made me take a piss break every time he came on tv.

And a dufus cannot compare to the Excellence that is the Hitman. When Angle gets reactions that Bret was getting with ease, then we can talk.

BigDaddyCool 08-06-2007 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
Angle is highly overrated.

Wrestling wise, he thinks like an amateur, but he forgets to sell, he forgets to use proper psychology.

As for the entertainment side of things, Angle was fine as a dufus, but that's about it. Crazy, RAAAAWRRRR Angle made me take a piss break every time he came on tv.

And a dufus cannot compare to the Excellence that is the Hitman. When Angle gets reactions that Bret was getting with ease, then we can talk.

I disagree.

Zen v.W.o. 08-06-2007 05:16 PM

I dont see why. Angle acting as if he could be anything but a dufus just wouldnt take. His intense promos and his drooling and foaming at the mouth that you saw later on in his wwe career was just pretty laughable. How anyone could take him seriously I do not know. He couldnt pull that off well at all. And the fans didnt buy it. He looked like he needed to take a serious shit for most of those remaining months or years whatever it was.

He couldnt even find his own fucking entrance music.

The Naitch 08-06-2007 05:19 PM

zen is getting riled up

Dorkchop 08-06-2007 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The One
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Angle did such a great job copying Austin. When Austin came out with the beer truck, he hit the ring with the truck (I'm pretty sure he did). Nice to see even a small detail like that mimicked.

Dorkchop 08-06-2007 05:25 PM

Also Stasiac made that segment even better.

BigDaddyCool 08-06-2007 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o.
I dont see why. Angle acting as if he could be anything but a dufus just wouldnt take. His intense promos and his drooling and foaming at the mouth that you saw later on in his wwe career was just pretty laughable. How anyone could take him seriously I do not know. He couldnt pull that off well at all. And the fans didnt buy it. He looked like he needed to take a serious shit for most of those remaining months or years whatever it was.

He couldnt even find his own fucking entrance music.

I still disagree. Kurt is god...a crazy god...but a god none the less. Hart had the same match every time all the time.

McLegend 08-06-2007 05:47 PM

lol c'mon now. Angle has been doing the same match for a long time now.

BigDaddyCool 08-06-2007 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by legend
lol c'mon now. Angle has been doing the same match for a long time now.

Nuh-uh. Angle is way more awesome.

Slow 08-06-2007 06:42 PM

Angle's wife > Hart's wife

'nuff said

McLegend 08-06-2007 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Nuh-uh. Angle is way more awesome.

That might be true, but he's still been wrestling the same match for a few years now regardless of how awsome he is.

Outsider 08-06-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dorkchop
Also Stasiac made that segment even better.

He made a lot of segments better.

I miss him :(

I'm sure I'm the only one though!

Jordan 08-06-2007 08:13 PM

Promo wise he is better for sure. But Bret's matches are a lot more entertaining. Bret is easier to watch for me. Kurt probably one day could suprass Bret as the greatest wrestler ever, but he has only been a pro for about 8 years. At this point in Bret's carrer he was just getting his first tag title (maybe not even). And I haven't seen Bret's Calgary work but I can only assume it was better than his WWE work, given the greatness of his opponents. Tough debate, but I say Bret because he is a legend and Kurt isn't yet.

loosecollector 08-06-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow
Angle's wife > Hart's wife

'nuff said

I've heard Bret's got a new wife bro...

mrslackalack 08-07-2007 12:30 AM

and Brets new wife is pretty hot, although I would still prolly chose Karen Angle over her.

mrslackalack 08-07-2007 12:31 AM

A prime Bret vs a prime Angle 60 minute match would be a instant classic IMO.

FourFifty 08-07-2007 12:37 AM

Kurt <strike>right now</strike> before TNA > Bret in his prime

The Miz 08-07-2007 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrslackalack
A prime Bret vs a prime Angle 60 minute match would be a instant classic IMO.

Nah

Zen v.W.o. 08-07-2007 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
I still disagree. Kurt is god...a crazy god...but a god none the less. Hart had the same match every time all the time.


KOTR 93 is just one example that immediately came to mind that disproves your theory.

Angle wishes he could work with just about anyone and make them look good. It's a rare gift though.

Angle looked good because Benoit made him look good. When he wasnt wrestling Benoit, Angle looked inconsistent, and plainly above average athletically, but as a pro wrestler, he was not the man.
Shamrock was a great shoot fighter, but not a great pro wrestler. Same deal applies here. They were good, but not even top 5.

Shisen Kopf 08-07-2007 01:48 AM

The best ever was clearly Kevin Nash. If you disagree you don't know wrestling and you should just go away and the second best wrestler ever was clearly D-Lo Brown.

Shisen Kopf 08-07-2007 01:49 AM

oh yeah, Bart Hart or whatever his name was can't even hold the jock strap of Shawn Michaels who was a great rassler. If Brot were so good, he would have beaten Michaels at Survivor series 97!

OssMan 08-07-2007 01:55 AM

In my opinion Kurt Angle was a better champion than Bret Hart but Bret Hart was a better psychological wrestler and knew how to sell moves, also Angle had a better title reign

Shisen Kopf 08-07-2007 02:03 AM

Jake the Snake was better.

BigDaddyCool 08-07-2007 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf
The best ever was clearly Kevin Nash. If you disagree you don't know wrestling and you should just go away .

Agreed, and let it be written into law.

Shisen Kopf 08-07-2007 02:12 AM

also, the title of the thread is the best there is and was and all that. Yet no mention of Tyson Tomko or Prince Albert??????

loosecollector 08-07-2007 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf
Jake the Snake was better.

In psychology, yes... also in Math.

Nervous Ferret 08-07-2007 02:38 AM

Well at least we can all agree that Bret Hart is the most overrated wrestler of all time. :y:

Shisen Kopf 08-07-2007 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret
Well at least we can all agree that Bret Hart is the most overrated wrestler of all time. :y:

Owen was better. Why did God not take away the crappier Hart brother instead of Owen?

loosecollector 08-07-2007 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf
Owen was better. Why did God not take away the crappier Hart brother instead of Owen?

Bret is winning the Polls :D - http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66863

Shisen Kopf 08-07-2007 03:29 AM

that poll was unfair and biased and I think it is racially unfair. I got tricked into voting for Bret, what a sham!


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