Shane Douglas
 

I never saw a lot of the guy but some people list him as a legend. What exactly has Douglas done to be a big star? Other than throw down the NWA belt. Basically, what I'm asking is, why should I give a shit about him?

He's an ECW icon, that's it. Great talker, decent wrestler, but never did anything big outside of ECW. He was the Man for them back in the 90's.

He started Revolution in WCW duh. :shifty:

Is that why he's so bitter to EVERYBODY outside of ECW?

dean douglas? shawn michaels didnt want to job to him,

He could be pretty fucking intense on the mircrophone, but other than that I never much cared for him.

Did he just not get the push he deserved in the WWF and WCW or did he deserve what he got?

It's not a crying shame that he didn't get a huge push, but he probably could have done very well if given the oppurtunity.

He lacked a few things though. His look wasn't very intimidating.

Kinda what BDC said, yeah.

I agree with BDC. I think in the Attitude era, "The Franchise" could have easily worked alongside the Austins, Rocks, HHHs.

Based on character, not amazing in-ring abilities.

He's the type of guy who could have gone places with the right push in the attitude era, because..well..he had an attitude. It came across in his character.
If he was a ruthless heel or even a ruthless anti-hero he'd work out, the same way Austin and HHH worked out. I can picture him getting a push from uppermidcard to main event similar to HHHs in 1999. He may not have last as long or reached the levels of HHH, but he certainly had the tools to work in the attitude era in the upper level.

I would say even with the brand split, he could have survived just by changing the nature of the Franchise gimmick. Of course, he'd probably have wound up on Smackdown, but still.

Y'know I've been meaning to do a thread on Shane Douglas for some time now...

About how much he sucks however...

I've been buying these DVD's they've been bringing out in the UK lately such as a best of XPW type... and a Hardy's interview... random stuff like that etc.

Anyway, everything Douglas does these days is just a promo where he acts all big and manly by swearing as much as he can. His matches all tend to suck, and his promos are more repetative than an Austin return promo.

He constantly does that whole "fuck Vince McMahon" thing... where honestly... you think McMahon is ever even gonna come across the video?

And the whole "I'm so cool and badass because I say Fuck/Shit/Ass/Dick/Cock etc in every promo" really doesn't do it for me. The guy's just a great big ball of bitter who sucks more dick than Paris Hilton. Back in the day he was average, but now he's just always playing the bad-ass heel type who drives off in his car at every show laughing at the camera thinking he's cool because he said "fuck" in his promo.

Also, he sucks in the ring (Did I mention that), and the only reason any of his matches are remembered at all is because it involved someone like Sabu or Terry Funk doing some mad crazy spot or something.

IMO.

And also, the only time I every any crap about Shane Douglas was in the Revolution, and that's only because Benoit, Malenco and Saturn were in it. :yes:

Amen. :yes:

:wtf: Um. And you know this how?

I always marked for Douglas in ECW. Couldn't have cared less about him the second he stepped on to a WCW or WWE stage, but in ECW he was giving free reign. The guy could put together pretty good matches and was incredible on the stick...provided he had total freedom. He's one of those guys who cuts a promo that half kayfabe and half shoot but delivered with 100% intensity and heart. Once he went somewhere where he had to work with a script, work in a controlled setting, and wasn't allowed to spew whatever heat filled thing filled his head at that moment he lost himself.

He's similar enough to the Dudleys to warrant a side by side comparison. I mean really all of them just aren't capable of making themselves worth the hype once they are told they can't use the word "fuck" every sentence. Couple not being able to say "Suck Dick" in every promo and being matches up against legit iconic wrestlers, and they just don't measure up. Having said that, I really liked The Franchise character, thought he played it perfectly and I was a mark of his...while the Dudleys never did anything special for me.

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What I meant was I agreed with your stock of his abilties as run of the mill. I think his gimmick would have gotten him above everyone you mentioned though just because it is sort of based on being the best.

Shane is the bridge burner of the wrestling world. He burned every bridge he had with the WWF, then ECW by ditching their asses, then he came to WCW which shut down a year later.

Now look at him. Pathetic.

He fought the Kliq and lost. End of story.

You know, take this out of context and "he" could mean just about anybody in the wrestling world, and it would still be true.

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Shane is a Dynamic Dude. :shifty:

Brian Pillman made him look like the second rate piece of crap he was. He tried keeping up, but nah, that couldnt happen.

Anyone that came into ecw for just a little bit that had a certain amount of real talent and skill made you realize exactly why Doulgas belonged in ecw, and nowhere else.