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BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 04:59 PM

It has been over 6 months
 
That is right, it has been over 6 months now since Chris Jericho made his big comeback. My question is, has he had a single 5 star match yet?

dablackguy 04-01-2008 05:00 PM

No. But i'm hard pressed to deny he's improved Raw

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:00 PM

According to Meltzer, nobody in the WWE has since 1997. What is a 5 star match? Can anyone get one out of Orton and JBL?

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:00 PM

I think it's been 4 months, but whatever

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2103116)
That is right, it has been over 15 years now since Kevin Nash made his debut. My question is, has he had a single 5 star match yet?


thedamndest 04-01-2008 05:02 PM

His match with Punk was pretty good last night.

Londoner 04-01-2008 05:03 PM

BDC, you're boring everyone now. This act of 'oh i hate jericho im so funny' is pretty tiring. You just basically let your bias hatred of jericho get in the way so no matter what you instantly overlook anything good he does. You even said his return was shit, you're the one whose full of shit tbh.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:05 PM

He's obv just trying to be funny for the 32,221st time here and hes failing miserably, but its hardly anything to care about. We get the gimmick by now

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2103120)
I think it's been 4 months, but whatever

He came bakc in September, it is april now. That is 6 months.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:05 PM

He came back at the end of November

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:06 PM

Unless of course you expected him to have 5 star matches when vignettes were running during commercial breaks

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:07 PM

I'm not trying to be funny. If I was trying to be funny, I would have said Arn Anderson and Scott Hall walked in to a bar, Chris Jericho ducked.

dablackguy 04-01-2008 05:09 PM

If he wants to hate, let him. But:

Solid matches with Hardy, Punk among others.

Solid feud with JBL, even though the matches were garbage

You can't say he hasnt contributed to the upper mid card i.e: Jerichoesque

Londoner 04-01-2008 05:09 PM

whatever, bdc.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:11 PM

"Jericho wrestled in his first match in over two years on the November 26, 2007 episode of RAW"

I have a bet for you though BDC, gentlemens bet. By the time the 6 month mark is here I bet he will have had a great match. He had programs with Orton and JBL. His matches against Punk and Hardy and others have been solid.
Now if he gets a program with someone he can work with and get time with, he should be fine

Ps, did you see the Armageddon match against Orton? Considering who he was facing, the match was pretty good

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2103127)
He came back at the end of November

Oh...I check wikipedia...I could have miss read it, but is said something about Sept. 24...that could have been when they started running the spots for him.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:14 PM

Or you could just use your head. You watch wrestling all the time and spend your days on a wrestling forum, I'd assume you'd have a concept of time and remember what month it is

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2103134)
"Jericho wrestled in his first match in over two years on the November 26, 2007 episode of RAW"

I have a bet for you though BDC, gentlemens bet. By the time the 6 month mark is here I bet he will have had a great match. He had programs with Orton and JBL. His matches against Punk and Hardy and others have been solid.
Now if he gets a program with someone he can work with and get time with, he should be fine

Ps, did you see the Armageddon match against Orton? Considering who he was facing, the match was pretty good

A great match in six months. Surely a wrestler of Jericho's asserted caliber should have no less than 3 great matches in 6 month.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:16 PM

lol, okay

Londoner 04-01-2008 05:19 PM

Jericho > JBL

Indifferent Clox 04-01-2008 05:20 PM

his match on smackdown last week was great.

Londoner 04-01-2008 05:21 PM

fucking hell, i agree with clox for once.

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:22 PM

Seriously, do you not think Jericho can't have at least 3 matches rated 4 out of 5 stars or better in 6 months? You certainly act like he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Hell, Jericho is even starting a fued with Punk, another guy the IWC seems to think is the best ever. Assuming they are both the caliber the IWC rates them as, there is no reason for them not to have 4+ star matches in the fued. You might even win said bet in 2 months.

So, I wish to know what the stakes of this bet are.

Londoner 04-01-2008 05:25 PM

BDC, im starting to actually think clox is a better poster than you. That's how bad your posts are right now.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:27 PM

He's actually been having the best TV matches out of anyone, aside from maybe Jeff Hardy
Who else has been having 5 stars? HHH squashing Snitsky and Umaga and HBK vs Kennedy have been equal to or lesser than Jericho's work with Orton and JBL. What about them?

He hasn't had much to work with in terms of programs or time. Like I said, he's gotten Orton and JBL and done a good job with them. His program with Jeff Hardy started and would have been great, and now he gets CM Punk which will prob be amazing.

Also, he's been in a few clusterfucks instead of one on one matches with other skilled wrestlers, (ie the elimination chamber and MITB) which were great and among the best of their kind.

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2103150)
BDC, im starting to actually think clox is a better poster than you. That's how bad your posts are right now.

I hear a lot of blah blah blah from you. Do you seriously think that the slow ass match last night was up to Jericho and Cm Punk's standards?

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2103152)
He's actually been having the best TV matches out of anyone, aside from maybe Jeff Hardy
Who else has been having 5 stars? HHH squashing Snitsky and Umaga and HBK vs Kennedy have been equal to or lesser than Jericho's work with Orton and JBL. What about them?

He hasn't had much to work with in terms of programs or time. Like I said, he's gotten Orton and JBL and done a good job with them. His program with Jeff Hardy started and would have been great, and now he gets CM Punk which will prob be amazing.

Also, he's been in a few clusterfucks (ie the elimination chamber and MITB) which were great and among the best of their kind.

Oh, he has been have 3 star matches while everyone else is have 2 star matches, that makes him better than everyone.

Seriously, what are the stakes of the wager?

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:30 PM

I'm being honest here, if Jericho sucked now I'd admit it. In fact, I'd prob notice it more than you and be more critical with it. But the bottom line is he's doing what hes always been doing, he just hasn't been given the oppurtunity and time/compettitor to put on a 5 star.

He debuted in the WWF in late 99. How long was it til he had a 5 star there? Not until they let him. Blame WWE, not him

KingofOldSchool 04-01-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2103119)
According to Meltzer, nobody in the WWE has since 1997. What is a 5 star match? Can anyone get one out of Orton and JBL?

Meltzer is his own biggest mark.

Londoner 04-01-2008 05:32 PM

I hear a lot of blah blah blah from you. Do you seriously think that the slow ass match last night was up to Jericho and Cm Punk's standards?


I haven't seen it yet, so can't judge. But i know for sure that Jericho's had a lot better promo's/matches than you think. Like for example, his match against jeff hardy to win the ic title was great. His promo with the big show was great. His match with mvp was great. His match at wm on sunday was pretty good in the MITB. His return promo was fucking amazing. And i'm sure im missing other things.Oh yeh his match against orton was pretty good considering it was his first ppv match on his return. And he carried JBl in their feud.

You're just so full of shit its unreal.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2103164)
Meltzer is his own biggest mark.

He is an idiot for his 5 star thing. He actually costs himself credibility by not naming any 5 stars. The problem is he has a problem with Vince and WWF ever since then and doesn't give them the 5th star for matches that are clearly 5 stars

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 05:58 PM

So what I'm hearing from all of you is that it isn't Jericho's fault he isn't putting out good matches, WWE is holding him down and he has been doing what he always does (which is boring a played out in my opinion).

Seriously, all I'm asking is has he had a 5 star match since his debut? And do you think he will start living up to the hype you have created for him and have a hand full of 4 to 5 star matches in the next 6 months?

Londoner 04-01-2008 06:02 PM

read my post again bdc rather than reading what you want to read.

Jeritron 04-01-2008 06:02 PM

I think the point of a 5 star match is that they dont happen often. What do you consider a 5 star match? and who has been having them? who has had a handful of 5 stars in the course of months?

Gertner 04-01-2008 06:03 PM

not good, but not bad.

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 06:05 PM

I said 4 to 5 star matches.

TL, I read your post. Jericho v Hardy sucked for Jericho. I expect better from him. I can see him calling spots, going slow, and just sucking in general.

Juan 04-01-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2103122)
His match with Punk was pretty good last night.


Londoner 04-01-2008 06:09 PM

As usual your hatred of jericho gets in the way of what really happened.

Indifferent Clox 04-01-2008 06:11 PM

this gives me a thread idea.

BigDaddyCool 04-01-2008 06:11 PM

Look, I just see Jericho being helped through matches by the likes of Punk and Hardy.


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