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Old 04-01-2008, 04:59 PM   #1
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It has been over 6 months
That is right, it has been over 6 months now since Chris Jericho made his big comeback. My question is, has he had a single 5 star match yet?
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No. But i'm hard pressed to deny he's improved Raw
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:00 PM   #3
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According to Meltzer, nobody in the WWE has since 1997. What is a 5 star match? Can anyone get one out of Orton and JBL?
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:31 PM   #4
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According to Meltzer, nobody in the WWE has since 1997. What is a 5 star match? Can anyone get one out of Orton and JBL?
Meltzer is his own biggest mark.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:37 PM   #5
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Meltzer is his own biggest mark.
He is an idiot for his 5 star thing. He actually costs himself credibility by not naming any 5 stars. The problem is he has a problem with Vince and WWF ever since then and doesn't give them the 5th star for matches that are clearly 5 stars
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Old 04-01-2008, 09:09 PM   #6
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According to Meltzer, nobody in the WWE has since 1997. What is a 5 star match? Can anyone get one out of Orton and JBL?
Meltzer is also a gangrenous cunt.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:00 PM   #7
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I think it's been 4 months, but whatever
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:05 PM   #8
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I think it's been 4 months, but whatever
He came bakc in September, it is april now. That is 6 months.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:02 PM   #9
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That is right, it has been over 15 years now since Kevin Nash made his debut. My question is, has he had a single 5 star match yet?
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:02 PM   #10
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His match with Punk was pretty good last night.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:08 PM   #11
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:03 PM   #12
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BDC, you're boring everyone now. This act of 'oh i hate jericho im so funny' is pretty tiring. You just basically let your bias hatred of jericho get in the way so no matter what you instantly overlook anything good he does. You even said his return was shit, you're the one whose full of shit tbh.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:05 PM   #13
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He's obv just trying to be funny for the 32,221st time here and hes failing miserably, but its hardly anything to care about. We get the gimmick by now
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:05 PM   #14
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He came back at the end of November
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:12 PM   #15
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Oh...I check wikipedia...I could have miss read it, but is said something about Sept. 24...that could have been when they started running the spots for him.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:06 PM   #16
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Unless of course you expected him to have 5 star matches when vignettes were running during commercial breaks
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:09 PM   #17
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If he wants to hate, let him. But:

Solid matches with Hardy, Punk among others.

Solid feud with JBL, even though the matches were garbage

You can't say he hasnt contributed to the upper mid card i.e: Jerichoesque
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I'm not trying to be funny. If I was trying to be funny, I would have said Arn Anderson and Scott Hall walked in to a bar, Chris Jericho ducked.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:11 PM   #20
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"Jericho wrestled in his first match in over two years on the November 26, 2007 episode of RAW"

I have a bet for you though BDC, gentlemens bet. By the time the 6 month mark is here I bet he will have had a great match. He had programs with Orton and JBL. His matches against Punk and Hardy and others have been solid.
Now if he gets a program with someone he can work with and get time with, he should be fine

Ps, did you see the Armageddon match against Orton? Considering who he was facing, the match was pretty good
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"Jericho wrestled in his first match in over two years on the November 26, 2007 episode of RAW"

I have a bet for you though BDC, gentlemens bet. By the time the 6 month mark is here I bet he will have had a great match. He had programs with Orton and JBL. His matches against Punk and Hardy and others have been solid.
Now if he gets a program with someone he can work with and get time with, he should be fine

Ps, did you see the Armageddon match against Orton? Considering who he was facing, the match was pretty good
A great match in six months. Surely a wrestler of Jericho's asserted caliber should have no less than 3 great matches in 6 month.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:14 PM   #22
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Or you could just use your head. You watch wrestling all the time and spend your days on a wrestling forum, I'd assume you'd have a concept of time and remember what month it is
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Seriously, do you not think Jericho can't have at least 3 matches rated 4 out of 5 stars or better in 6 months? You certainly act like he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Hell, Jericho is even starting a fued with Punk, another guy the IWC seems to think is the best ever. Assuming they are both the caliber the IWC rates them as, there is no reason for them not to have 4+ star matches in the fued. You might even win said bet in 2 months.

So, I wish to know what the stakes of this bet are.
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BDC, im starting to actually think clox is a better poster than you. That's how bad your posts are right now.
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BDC, im starting to actually think clox is a better poster than you. That's how bad your posts are right now.
I hear a lot of blah blah blah from you. Do you seriously think that the slow ass match last night was up to Jericho and Cm Punk's standards?
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I hear a lot of blah blah blah from you. Do you seriously think that the slow ass match last night was up to Jericho and Cm Punk's standards?
WWE wrestling matches have been slow for many years now. I don't think it's the wrestlers' fault. Even the HBK v Jeff Hardy match seemed slow. The only people that go fast, that i can recall right now, is london and kendrick. Punk and Jericho was pretty good but if you watch the MVP v Jericho match on Smackdown that was much better. Fast wrestling isn't always good either. For example TNA. They just seem to be running around all over the place with drop kicks and clotheslines and then the crowd cheers and chants.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:27 PM   #31
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He's actually been having the best TV matches out of anyone, aside from maybe Jeff Hardy
Who else has been having 5 stars? HHH squashing Snitsky and Umaga and HBK vs Kennedy have been equal to or lesser than Jericho's work with Orton and JBL. What about them?

He hasn't had much to work with in terms of programs or time. Like I said, he's gotten Orton and JBL and done a good job with them. His program with Jeff Hardy started and would have been great, and now he gets CM Punk which will prob be amazing.

Also, he's been in a few clusterfucks instead of one on one matches with other skilled wrestlers, (ie the elimination chamber and MITB) which were great and among the best of their kind.
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He's actually been having the best TV matches out of anyone, aside from maybe Jeff Hardy
Who else has been having 5 stars? HHH squashing Snitsky and Umaga and HBK vs Kennedy have been equal to or lesser than Jericho's work with Orton and JBL. What about them?

He hasn't had much to work with in terms of programs or time. Like I said, he's gotten Orton and JBL and done a good job with them. His program with Jeff Hardy started and would have been great, and now he gets CM Punk which will prob be amazing.

Also, he's been in a few clusterfucks (ie the elimination chamber and MITB) which were great and among the best of their kind.
Oh, he has been have 3 star matches while everyone else is have 2 star matches, that makes him better than everyone.

Seriously, what are the stakes of the wager?
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Oh, he has been have 3 star matches while everyone else is have 2 star matches, that makes him better than everyone.
Um, in a way, yes.

Jericho has done some solid TV shit since returning. His matches against Jeff Hardy and with the Money in the Bank guys have been interesting. I don't know what you consider "5 stars," but Money in the Bank was pretty fucking good. Fuck, I even enjoyed his TV match with Santino. Jericho has even gotten the fans back on side.

You're embarrassing yourself, BDC.
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I'm being honest here, if Jericho sucked now I'd admit it. In fact, I'd prob notice it more than you and be more critical with it. But the bottom line is he's doing what hes always been doing, he just hasn't been given the oppurtunity and time/compettitor to put on a 5 star.

He debuted in the WWF in late 99. How long was it til he had a 5 star there? Not until they let him. Blame WWE, not him
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I hear a lot of blah blah blah from you. Do you seriously think that the slow ass match last night was up to Jericho and Cm Punk's standards?


I haven't seen it yet, so can't judge. But i know for sure that Jericho's had a lot better promo's/matches than you think. Like for example, his match against jeff hardy to win the ic title was great. His promo with the big show was great. His match with mvp was great. His match at wm on sunday was pretty good in the MITB. His return promo was fucking amazing. And i'm sure im missing other things.Oh yeh his match against orton was pretty good considering it was his first ppv match on his return. And he carried JBl in their feud.

You're just so full of shit its unreal.
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So what I'm hearing from all of you is that it isn't Jericho's fault he isn't putting out good matches, WWE is holding him down and he has been doing what he always does (which is boring a played out in my opinion).

Seriously, all I'm asking is has he had a 5 star match since his debut? And do you think he will start living up to the hype you have created for him and have a hand full of 4 to 5 star matches in the next 6 months?
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read my post again bdc rather than reading what you want to read.
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I think the point of a 5 star match is that they dont happen often. What do you consider a 5 star match? and who has been having them? who has had a handful of 5 stars in the course of months?
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I said 4 to 5 star matches.

TL, I read your post. Jericho v Hardy sucked for Jericho. I expect better from him. I can see him calling spots, going slow, and just sucking in general.
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