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Juan 03-06-2009 05:34 AM

The most decorated athlete in WWE history
 
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...t_Angle_10.jpg

Agree or disagree?

Juan 03-06-2009 05:38 AM

WCW United States Championship (1 time)
WCW World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
WWF/E Championship (4 times)
WWF European Championship (1 time)
WWF Hardcore Championship (1 time)
WWF Intercontinental Championship (1 time)
WWE Tag Team Championship (1 time)

Juan 03-06-2009 05:42 AM

I'm only asking because I'm watching Angle/Michaels from WM21 and I think it was JR that called him "The most decorated athlete in WWE history."

I'm leaning toward AGREE

The Mackem 03-06-2009 05:48 AM

Shawn Michaels

- WWF Championship (3 times)
- WWF European Championship (1 time)
- WWF Intercontinental Championship (3 times)
- WWF/E World Tag Team Championship (4 times)
- World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
- Royal Rumble (1995, 1996)
- First Grand Slam Championship

Triple H

- WWF/E Championship (8 times)
- WWF European Championship (2 times)
- WWF/E Intercontinental Championship (5 times)
- WWF Tag Team Championship (1 time)
- World Heavyweight Championship (5 times)
- King of the Ring (1997)
- Royal Rumble (2002)
- Second Grand Slam Champion

The Mackem 03-06-2009 05:51 AM

Chris Jericho

-WCW World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
-WWF European Championship (1 time)
-WWF Hardcore Championship (1 time)
-WWF/E Intercontinental Championship (8 times)
-WWF Undisputed Championship (1 time)
-WWF/E World Tag Team Championship (3 times)
- World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
-Third Grand Slam Champion

Jeritron 03-06-2009 05:53 AM

Mackem brings up strong points. Edge as well.

Juan 03-06-2009 05:54 AM

You can make a case for those guys, but not taking into account the amount of times a title is won, and adding in Angle's gold medals, he has to be up there.

Jeritron 03-06-2009 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem (Post 2457182)
Chris Jericho

-WCW World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
-WWF European Championship (1 time)
-WWF Hardcore Championship (1 time)
-WWF/E Intercontinental Championship (8 times)
-WWF Undisputed Championship (1 time)
-WWF/E World Tag Team Championship (3 times)
- World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
-Third Grand Slam Champion

WCW Television champion, WCW Cruiserweight champion, ECW Television champion

Juan 03-06-2009 05:55 AM

And there's something to say about how good of a wrestler Angle was in WWE.

Jeritron 03-06-2009 06:02 AM

All of the other guys named were great too. Perhaps not as great. I think that's all a matter of opinion, but they're all on the highest level.

The Mackem 03-06-2009 06:02 AM

Are we taking Slammies into consideration as well?

Volare 03-06-2009 06:06 AM

Oh god.

Disturbed316 03-06-2009 07:15 AM

No, this guy is:

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com.../k/kane/39.jpg

Jeritron 03-06-2009 07:16 AM

http://www.lannypoffo.com/Geniuscard.jpg

The Most Decorated Mathlete in WWF History

Fabien Barthez 03-06-2009 07:19 AM

Bret Hart?


WWF Championship (5 times)
WWF Intercontinental Championship (2 times)
WWF Tag Team Championship (2 times)
King of the Ring (1991, 1993)
Royal Rumble co-winner (1994)
Second Triple Crown Champion
WCW World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
WCW United States Heavyweight Championship (4 times)
WCW World Tag Team Championship (1 time)

Jeritron 03-06-2009 07:20 AM

lol I knew it was coming. I thought it would be Zen though

Juan 03-06-2009 07:23 AM

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6...crewjobwy9.jpg

Fabien Barthez 03-06-2009 07:26 AM

Only unsticking is that he wasn't a grand slam champion, but you can't blaim a guy for being above the Euro and hardcore titles...

Fabien Barthez 03-06-2009 07:28 AM

Earl Hebner. The true villain in the story.

Juan 03-06-2009 07:31 AM

and amazingly, he has taken it all in stride..

Fabien Barthez 03-06-2009 07:35 AM

They should have done an angle where Earl would ref matches in an 'Actually, I screwed Bret' T-shirt.

Imagine the heat!!!

Jeritron 03-06-2009 07:40 AM

RING THE FUCKIN BELL!

jerichoholicninja 03-06-2009 03:28 PM

I guess you could say that about Angle. Not necessary by total but by the amount of time that he did it in. He was only around what, 5 or 6 years, and won everything at least once plus Olympic medals.

Triple Naitch 03-06-2009 03:53 PM

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...t_Angle_10.jpg

That picture is classic. I remember in middle school we all wore our gold medals we won in gym class around school all week. Then one day this kid came to school wearing his medal and two plastic WWF belts around his waist and kept telling people It's True.

Funky Fly 03-06-2009 05:21 PM

Olympic gold medalist. Even if he'd never won a single title in pro wrestling, he'd still be the most decorated athlete in WWE history by far.

Triple Naitch 03-06-2009 05:28 PM

Mark Henry was an Olympic <s>gold medalist</s> participant. :shifty:

Nicky Fives 03-06-2009 06:07 PM

Henry never won a medal at the olympics... he competed but never won

Vastardikai 03-06-2009 07:47 PM

Bad News Brown was an Olympic medalist (a bronze medalist, but a medalist nonetheless.)

Xero 03-06-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick55555 (Post 2457676)
Henry never won a medal at the olympics... he competed but never won

He WAS the World's Strongest Man. That amounts to something.

Vastardikai 03-06-2009 07:57 PM

So was Ted Arcidi and Bill Kazmier, your point?

Juan 03-06-2009 08:01 PM

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...weightCham.jpg

Xero 03-06-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 2457810)
So was Ted Arcidi and Bill Kazmier, your point?

They were never ECW champions. :roll:

Juan 03-06-2009 08:35 PM

Yeah and I don't remember them ever splitting any wigs

Xero 03-06-2009 08:37 PM

Don't forget fathering a hand.

Vastardikai 03-06-2009 09:08 PM

Bill Kazmier set some world records, almost won the tag titles with Rick Steiner, and put Abdullah the Butcher in the Bear Hug.

...

bah, I got nothing.

Juan 03-06-2009 09:10 PM

http://z.about.com/d/prowrestling/1/0/7/B/-/-/kurt2.jpg

SIDRA 03-07-2009 12:01 AM

Ability
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...moDragon-1.jpg

Am I right? :P

"Último Dragón is the only professional wrestler in the world to hold 11 titles at the same time. On October 11, 1996, he won the J-Crown, a unification of eight junior (lightweight) division titles from various international promotions. At the time, he also held the NWA Middleweight and WCW Cruiserweight titles pluse he was one third of the WAR World Six-Man Tag Team Championship, making him the most decorated wrestler in the world." - Quoted from Wikipedia.

SIDRA 03-07-2009 12:10 AM

http:////slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImag...orm_vcrppv.jpg

Lets not forget this to. He was in WWE, I'll be it they never used him as well as WCW did (What a shock, WCW used somebody new in a good way... right?) Lances best work was back in Dub-C. It's sad how WWE buried his talent. He could of been the next Bret in terms of technical skill, and I'll be it he was not the best on the Mic, but what he lacked on the Mic, he made up for in the ring. I would of loved to see a high profile Benoit v. Storm or Regal v. Storm match at a Wrestlmaina . What a showcase of pure pro wrestling skill that would of been. Something WWE has been lacking in a long, long time.

Peace,
ABC

FourFifty 03-07-2009 12:18 AM

Angle had 11 titles.
Bret had 16 titles.
Jericho had 18 titles.
Triple H had 21 titles.

All of these men had various titles. Tag team titles, IC titles, US, Hardcore, Euro, etc etc etc. Midcard titles.
But how many of them can say they were the 16 time World Heavyweight Champion?
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

SIDRA 03-07-2009 03:33 AM

Open to Interpretation
 
I'm not questioning anyone's validity of all these grate talents. I'm just saying that the thread is about the, "Most decorated athlete in WWE." There are a few different interpretations of that.

Dragon held 11 at the same time. That says more to me than accumulated titles. And also on a technical bases makes him the most decorated Pro Wrestler ever. (I don't think we will see anyone else holding that many titles at one time again anytime soon.)

Ric Flair held 16 World titles, 9 Tag, 2 TV, 1 IC, 5 US, won the 92 Royal Rumble (Also the only time the WWF/E title was decided in a RR match.) and got a slammy, all over a 36 year career. All in all about 33 titles, (Give or take, I know I'm not spot on, but I'm close.) to the Flair name.

Now the thread dose say ATHLETE so by literal interpretation. By literal I men the legitimacy of the titles in relation to real athletic combat. (I'm not blasting wrestling for being fake, I have much respect for it and it's heritage, this is just my humble opinion.)

Ken Shamrock was the first King of Pancrase in 1994, the first UFC Superfight Champion (Holding that title twice.), and was the first World Mixed Martial Arts Association Heavyweight Championship. On top of being NWA Heavyweight champ, WWF IC champ, and WWF Tag champ.

Then there is Brock. One could argue he is the most legitimacy decorated athlete to ever have been a WWE wrestler. As he is the only man so far to have been both the WWE Champion (3 times) and the UFC heavyweight Champion (Current). Cementing him (Again only my opinion here, but it's open to debate.) as the first person sense the likes of Georg Hackenschmidt and Frank Gotch to prove himself as the real deal when it comes to wrestling. Add to that his 97, 98, & 99 ND State-U annual Bison tournament wins, two Big Ten Conference wins, 2 time NJCAA All American, and his NCAA Championship. Brock, like him, or loath him, is the real deal.

Do you see my point? Triple H could win 30 more WWE world titles for all I care, he wont ever of been both a WWE champion and a world champion professional fighter. That to me, makes Brock Lesnar the most decorated "athlete" ever to have been in the WWE.

Kurt is a close second for me due to the Olympic win in 96 and all. Now if he would put his money where his mouth is and make that jump to MMA like he's been talking about for how long now? There is an off chance he could do it to. But at 40 years old and with is heath issues I don't know if he could pull it off. It would be a "Rocky moment" if he did... If you get my point.

Overall I think quality trumps quantity in terms of "decoration." Some Champions could win the title one time and make it a more memorable championship reign than another with 16 or 30 different titles to there name. Yeah they've been champ a bunch of times but what else have they done? Why dose the number of titles mean anything, especially if that is all they can be remembered for? It is what legitimizes them that is important. It's what makes them, to steal a line from Triple H, that damn good.

Peace,
ABC


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