Better Wrestler #80
 

Flyin' Brian Pillman soars past the Road Dogg and move on to another round. This round, he'll meet someone who knows a thing or two about flying...











3 days.


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Damn yous Jeri, gotta think about this

http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.p...&pictureid=290

'nuff said

Ultimo will not slip by Pillman, here.

Love Pillman... but Ultimo is Ultimo.

As much as I've said over the course of the last few BWs, that I just don't get what people see in Pillman, I get what they see in Ultimo even less.

Are you kidding me? Ultimo is regarded as one of the best wrestlers in the WORLD. Amazing wrestlers. He may not have the charisma of your HBK's, but I think his track record alone speaks to how amazing he is in the ring.

I'm not even into "puro" that much, but Ultimo is an exception. His matches with the Great Sasuke are some of the best I've ever seen.

Pillman.

Not to mention his matches with Dean Malenko and Jushin Thunder Liger

Given the track record of these polls, I *get* Ultimo Dragon not winning, but I do think he deserves more votes.

Ultimo hands down.

Pillman because he's better.

Better wrestler HAS to mean something more than fancy in-ring moves.

Personally, I base it on who I'd rather put the World Title on if I ran the company. Ultimo's not that guy. Pillman actually COULD HAVE been had he not died.

I think NARC could probably help you with the definition.

Thats often the more marketable wrestler middlefinger (abstains from gay spelling).

Ultimo Dragon is hands down one of the best luchadores of all time. He got a raw deal at NY, due to WWE trying to push him off the back of Rey instead of using him a a lynchpin for a dying cruiser division.

Pillman has got this far on potential he never actually realised.

tough call..... I gotta go with Pillman again

Toughest one of these in a long time. Gotta go with the Dragon though just based off of the fact that I saw more of the dragon than Pillman and was amazed most of the time when he was done with his matches.

Pillman had a match of the year with Liger

Before I vote, can someone post some youtube videos of some of Ultimos BEST matches, because I haven't seen too much of him, and most of what I have seem involves him botching moves etc.

I wasn't refering to marketability.

John Cena, Too Cool, Ultimate Warrior, Road Dogg, R-Truth, etc. are all marketable. That doesn't mean I'd want to put the World Title on any of them.

I'm talking about combining marketability with in-ring ability (and that's even broken down into the balance of skill set such as high flying, submission, technical, etc.) and mic skill and the ability to tell a story with the matches and execution of moves.

Brian Pillman was nowhere near perfect. In my opinion, however, Ultimo Dragon is further from that than Pillman was.

I agree that WWE gave Ultimo a bullshit run. Hell, I would say that WCW gave him a bullshit run. The truth is, however, that both runs are simply a reflection of what can be done with the guy. WCW gave him a mouthpiece and had him carrying around about 20 belts to impress people and it got stale fast. WWE didn't try too hard but, really, if he needs someone to speak for him it's hard to build real angles. Additionally, his matches weren't exactly about logic. It looks great. It's great as an exhibition kinda deal. I don't think it works as something you gotta see every week on TV. RVD got real stale on WWE doing the same moves that were amazing on ECW. But even he had more to offer outside of 'cool moves' than Ultimo.

But that's just my opinion. I'm sure everybody disagrees with something in there.

Also, not quite sure why calling the spelling of my SN 'gay' was totally necessary. No offense taken, though, in case you were wondering.

I love Pillman, but I really have to go with Ultimo on this one.... Sadly, it comes down to Dragon Gate, which Ultimo pretty much started, plus, he trained CIMA.

Watched the Pillman DVD for the first time today, and it was great. I'm voting for Pillman, because not only was he a great wrestler, but he was a wonderful entertainer as well, and you have to have it all to make it in the wrestling business, and that is why Pillman was as over as he was. He was one of my favorites. May he rest in peace. :y:

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SHUT THE FUCK UP!

SUPER DRAGON!

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Pillman. PERIOD!

Ultimo. PERIOD.

Tampon. PERIOD.

pounce period!

Holy shit, dead tie.

lol a guy that was hot for 1 year beating a guy that was hot through multiple eras and managed to change with the times and get over everytime. I don't understand

And yet somehow he does nothing for me. Funny how that happens.

Indeed

Dammit, this is better wrestler, not better genitals!

Went with the dragon on this. I never really liked Pillman

You must be a simpleton.

I cant believe Pillman goes out to a guy dressed up in a fucking dragon costume.