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Brian Pillman 28 49.12%
Ultimo Dragon 29 50.88%
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:31 PM   #1
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Better Wrestler #80
Flyin' Brian Pillman soars past the Road Dogg and move on to another round. This round, he'll meet someone who knows a thing or two about flying...






Brian Pillman

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Ultimo Dragon



3 days.










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Old 06-03-2009, 11:34 PM   #2
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Damn yous Jeri, gotta think about this
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:34 PM   #3
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'nuff said
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:34 PM   #4
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Ultimo will not slip by Pillman, here.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:41 AM   #5
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Love Pillman... but Ultimo is Ultimo.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:47 AM   #6
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As much as I've said over the course of the last few BWs, that I just don't get what people see in Pillman, I get what they see in Ultimo even less.
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:12 AM   #7
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I get what they see in Ultimo even less.
Are you kidding me? Ultimo is regarded as one of the best wrestlers in the WORLD. Amazing wrestlers. He may not have the charisma of your HBK's, but I think his track record alone speaks to how amazing he is in the ring.
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:13 AM   #8
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I'm not even into "puro" that much, but Ultimo is an exception. His matches with the Great Sasuke are some of the best I've ever seen.
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:13 AM   #9
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Pillman.
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:14 AM   #10
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Not to mention his matches with Dean Malenko and Jushin Thunder Liger
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:19 AM   #11
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Given the track record of these polls, I *get* Ultimo Dragon not winning, but I do think he deserves more votes.
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:23 AM   #12
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Ultimo hands down.
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:32 AM   #13
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Pillman because he's better.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:33 AM   #14
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Better wrestler HAS to mean something more than fancy in-ring moves.

Personally, I base it on who I'd rather put the World Title on if I ran the company. Ultimo's not that guy. Pillman actually COULD HAVE been had he not died.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:44 AM   #15
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:21 AM   #16
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Thats often the more marketable wrestler middlefinger (abstains from gay spelling).

Ultimo Dragon is hands down one of the best luchadores of all time. He got a raw deal at NY, due to WWE trying to push him off the back of Rey instead of using him a a lynchpin for a dying cruiser division.

Pillman has got this far on potential he never actually realised.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:55 AM   #17
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tough call..... I gotta go with Pillman again
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:21 AM   #18
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Toughest one of these in a long time. Gotta go with the Dragon though just based off of the fact that I saw more of the dragon than Pillman and was amazed most of the time when he was done with his matches.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:34 AM   #19
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Not to mention his matches with Dean Malenko and Jushin Thunder Liger
Pillman had a match of the year with Liger
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:35 AM   #20
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Before I vote, can someone post some youtube videos of some of Ultimos BEST matches, because I haven't seen too much of him, and most of what I have seem involves him botching moves etc.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:10 PM   #21
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Thats often the more marketable wrestler middlefinger (abstains from gay spelling).

Ultimo Dragon is hands down one of the best luchadores of all time. He got a raw deal at NY, due to WWE trying to push him off the back of Rey instead of using him a a lynchpin for a dying cruiser division.

Pillman has got this far on potential he never actually realised.
I wasn't refering to marketability.

John Cena, Too Cool, Ultimate Warrior, Road Dogg, R-Truth, etc. are all marketable. That doesn't mean I'd want to put the World Title on any of them.

I'm talking about combining marketability with in-ring ability (and that's even broken down into the balance of skill set such as high flying, submission, technical, etc.) and mic skill and the ability to tell a story with the matches and execution of moves.

Brian Pillman was nowhere near perfect. In my opinion, however, Ultimo Dragon is further from that than Pillman was.

I agree that WWE gave Ultimo a bullshit run. Hell, I would say that WCW gave him a bullshit run. The truth is, however, that both runs are simply a reflection of what can be done with the guy. WCW gave him a mouthpiece and had him carrying around about 20 belts to impress people and it got stale fast. WWE didn't try too hard but, really, if he needs someone to speak for him it's hard to build real angles. Additionally, his matches weren't exactly about logic. It looks great. It's great as an exhibition kinda deal. I don't think it works as something you gotta see every week on TV. RVD got real stale on WWE doing the same moves that were amazing on ECW. But even he had more to offer outside of 'cool moves' than Ultimo.

But that's just my opinion. I'm sure everybody disagrees with something in there.

Also, not quite sure why calling the spelling of my SN 'gay' was totally necessary. No offense taken, though, in case you were wondering.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:21 PM   #22
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I love Pillman, but I really have to go with Ultimo on this one.... Sadly, it comes down to Dragon Gate, which Ultimo pretty much started, plus, he trained CIMA.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:32 PM   #23
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Watched the Pillman DVD for the first time today, and it was great. I'm voting for Pillman, because not only was he a great wrestler, but he was a wonderful entertainer as well, and you have to have it all to make it in the wrestling business, and that is why Pillman was as over as he was. He was one of my favorites. May he rest in peace.
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:21 PM   #24
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:22 PM   #25
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:00 PM   #26
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:05 PM   #27
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:28 PM   #28
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:45 PM   #29
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:47 PM   #30
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:38 AM   #31
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Old 06-05-2009, 02:29 AM   #32
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Holy shit, dead tie.
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:24 PM   #33
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lol a guy that was hot for 1 year beating a guy that was hot through multiple eras and managed to change with the times and get over everytime. I don't understand
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Old 06-06-2009, 12:08 AM   #34
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Are you kidding me? Ultimo is regarded as one of the best wrestlers in the WORLD. Amazing wrestlers. He may not have the charisma of your HBK's, but I think his track record alone speaks to how amazing he is in the ring.
And yet somehow he does nothing for me. Funny how that happens.
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Old 06-06-2009, 12:15 AM   #35
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Old 06-06-2009, 12:33 AM   #36
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Pillman. Better overall package. Dragon has one thing going (albeit a huge one) for him and it's the fact he's a fantastic worker. Pillman beats him in every other department however and he wasn't exactly a slouch in the ring himself.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:11 AM   #37
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Pillman. Better overall package.
Dammit, this is better wrestler, not better genitals!
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Old 06-06-2009, 05:54 PM   #38
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Went with the dragon on this. I never really liked Pillman
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Old 06-07-2009, 02:31 AM   #39
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You must be a simpleton.
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Old 06-07-2009, 02:57 AM   #40
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I cant believe Pillman goes out to a guy dressed up in a fucking dragon costume.
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