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Afterlife 09-29-2009 08:55 AM

Rob Van Dam
 
Do we want him back full time? Either way, explain your case.

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2009 09:09 AM

Well, personally, yes, I would. RVD is one of those guys I was never a "mark" for, but while he has been gone, I've appreciated him more and more. The dude was at least a breath of fresh air. While he is an "ECW Original," and SmackDown! would probably use him better, the idea of RVD being on RAW and giving me a main eventer that I am not yet sick of intrigues me. Also, a CM Punk vs. RVD feud equates to money. :y:

This is completely unrealistic, but imagine if RVD returned to RAW, and became the US Champion. Then he wins the 2010 Royal Rumble, and uses that win to jump over to SmackDown!. CM Punk is all "get off my show, stoner," and the two feud heading into WrestleMania 26. There, RVD defeats Punk and wins his first World Heavyweight Championship -- this making RVD the first man to have ever won the WWE Title, ECW Title and World Heavyweight Title. If he wins the US Title during his stint on RAW, this would also mean he has held every single championship available to him. He'd also be a former Money in the Bank and Royal Rumble winner. Add this to what would be a 5-0 undefeated WrestleMania streak. You could easily set RVD up as a major player with this.

Skippord 09-29-2009 09:39 AM

yes...fuck yes...double fuck yes

I love Rob Van Dam a lot

The Mackem 09-29-2009 10:30 AM

Yeah a Rob Van Dam/Hardcore Holly programme could be $$$

Afterlife 09-29-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mackem (Post 2744271)
Yeah a Rob Van Dam/Hardcore Holly programme could be $$$

Are you being serious?

Nicky Fives 09-29-2009 11:14 AM

God yes..... imagine an RVD/CM Punk storyline...... great "pot is good/pot is bad" promos..... might be pushing the PG-13 rating a bit, but really only one baby-step from where they were with Jeff/Punk......and most definately great matches...start RVD off with a nice month filler feud to get the ring rust off (maybe with Ziggler), then have him jump to the ME with Punk

The Ravishing One 09-29-2009 01:32 PM

Yeah i'd welcome a Punk/RVD feud. Then try and turn him heel (i use the word try lightly) Imagine Morrison/RVD Kofi/RVD and Bourne/RVD!!

I just gotta go change my pants.

thedamndest 09-29-2009 01:41 PM

RVD could step into the Jeff Hardy role nicely as being the babyface that is charismatic in the ring and over as hell with the fans though not necessarily great on the mic. I don't imagine there would be any problems getting over with the younger fans. He's better in the ring and on the mic than Hardy, and as long as crowds still like to point at themselves and say his initials he will be over.

Gertner 09-29-2009 02:01 PM

RVD is ALOT better on the mic than Jeff Hardy.

Chavo Classic 09-29-2009 02:02 PM

In the years before his departure he toned down his act a little too much for my liking. Whether this was a personal decision or handed down from above, I'm not sure, but I tended to get frustrated when watching some of his matches because although they were decent enough, they were not the blockbusters they could have been.

There's no void in the WWE at the moment for me - he'd be a welcome addition for sure, but not an essential one.

The Ravishing One 09-29-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 2744505)
RVD is ALOT better on the mic than Jeff Hardy.

:y:

RGWhat316 09-29-2009 02:19 PM

I would give a big hell yeah on that one. He is still popular, as I thought he got one of the biggest pops of the night back at the Rumble. And definitely put him on Smackdown for a feud with Punk. He always seemed to get buried on RAW, so definitely SD would be a better place for him.

Anybody Thrilla 09-29-2009 02:20 PM

I've always been a pretty big RVD mark. He was the main reason I watched the original ECW. He's been in some pretty awesome matches. Besides feuding with Punk, though, I'm not sure where he would fit in without being lost in the shuffle, though. I feel he'd probably get a treatment similar to Christian if he came back. RVD would have definitely been a better ECW Original to hold the title than Dreamer was, but it's nothing he hasn't done before.

Rammsteinmad 09-29-2009 02:29 PM

Hell yeah! RVD VS CM Punk = :drool:

And the promos/build-up etc would be amazing.

Rammsteinmad 09-29-2009 02:31 PM

Actually, I had an idea a while back similar to Noid's, but instead of winning the US title etc, I thought it'd be cool if RVD was a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble and wins it (since that's never happened before).

Anybody Thrilla 09-29-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 2744555)
Actually, I had an idea a while back similar to Noid's, but instead of winning the US title etc, I thought it'd be cool if RVD was a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble and wins it (since that's never happened before).

Cena did it.

DAMN iNATOR 09-29-2009 03:19 PM

Hell yes! I would welcome back R.V.D. to WWE with open arms, and if he ever did it would be awesome if they'd have him start a program with Punk.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 03:35 PM

I said back at the last Rumble that a feud between Punk and RVD would be amazing not because of storyline continuity but because their styles mesh perfectly. When they were fighting each other in the Rumble they worked so fluidly together. Nobody in the WWE knows how to sell a stiff kick like RVD.

Lock Jaw 09-29-2009 04:27 PM

Never liked RVD, so no.

Although... even though I don't like RVD.... a CM Punk/RVD feud is much more tolerable than a CM Punk/Batista feud.

Rammsteinmad 09-29-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2744556)
Cena did it.

Oh yeah you're right lol!

Shows how memorable that was...

Londoner 09-29-2009 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 2744553)
Hell yeah! RVD VS CM Punk = :drool:

And the promos/build-up etc would be amazing.

And yet more chance for punk to continue his 'straight edge' gimmick. Who better than agianst RVD?

parkmania 09-29-2009 06:52 PM

I wonder if Rob's wife is doing well enough that he'd come back ONLY for a feud with Punk?

If so, then we wouldn't have to worry about where to take his character from there. Just have Punk start bringing him up in promos while he's working house shows/dark matches or somesuch to remove the rust, then RVD does a run-in one night to really kick off the feud.

Or even have RVD NOT work off the ringrust, and Punk can bring that up too - the deliterious (sp?) effect that long-term use has.

dronepool 09-30-2009 12:57 AM

Yes. Because he's a talented and entertaining wrestler.

Jura 09-30-2009 01:02 AM

Roberto Von Doom

abec 09-30-2009 01:37 AM

I marked out so hard when appeared at Royal Rumble as a surprise entrant. I would love for him to come back full time and interrupt this bullshit HHH/DX/Cena/Legacy boring feud.

Fignuts 09-30-2009 02:33 AM

Never cared much for RVD in WWE, outside of gimmick matches.

I think his matches in the WWE are just so routine and predictable, that they are kind of boring.

Mr. Nerfect 09-30-2009 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2745797)
Never cared much for RVD in WWE, outside of gimmick matches.

I think his matches in the WWE are just so routine and predictable, that they are kind of boring.

I agree with this, but time has made me miss him. Plus, compared to a lot of the other main eventers (specifically the guys on RAW), this is nothing to hold against a guy.

Truthfully, if they signed RVD on for a few years, I think they could make him one of the biggest stars the WWE has ever had, in a kayfabe sense. It's unlikely, given RVD's personal situations, but imagine this:

* RVD returns to RAW and becomes the US Champion.
* RVD wins the 2010 Royal Rumble.
* RVD wins the World Heavyweight Title after using the Rumble to jump to SmackDown!.
* RVD wins the 2010 King of the Ring Tournament, since it is the only achievement left for him after having won every single championship and special event the WWE has.
* RVD defeats The Undertaker at WrestleMania 27 in a Streak vs. Streak Match.

The last one is especially unlikely, but if RVD accomplished all that, on paper, he would be the greatest WWE Superstar ever.

Nicky Fives 09-30-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 2744837)
Oh yeah you're right lol!

Shows how memorable that was...

it wasn't really a surprise that he won, as soon as he entered #30 you knew he was going to win..... if RVD entered as a surprise entrant, 99.9% would not expect him to win.....

Kami Raki 09-30-2009 08:30 PM

They teased an RVD/CM Punk encounter in the Extreme Elimination Chamber a few years back. I wouldn't mind RVD being back, just not on Raw or ECW.

Anybody Thrilla 09-30-2009 11:22 PM

RVD and CM Punk back around December to Dismember would be a much different premise than the same feud today.

AJHayes 09-30-2009 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem (Post 2744271)
Yeah a Rob Van Dam/Hardcore Holly programme could be $$$

I would agree with this. RVD and Holly had a great thing going back when WWECW got started up. (see: Hollys sliced back). If I had the book, I would have pushed Holly to the main event in ECW, and I think that his stiff "anti-rookie" style could have taken him places.

Naturally, WWE shit the bed on that one.

Anybody Thrilla 09-30-2009 11:51 PM

Holly had already been with WWE for something like fifteen years, and during his final run, he was probably the most credible he had ever been during his tenure besides his feud with Brock Lesnar on SmackDOWN! a few years previous. If you recall, he was the first one to defeat CM Punk since his ECW debut. That back slice match was pretty good, and I actually did enjoy the work he was doing on ECW, but I think they did about the best they could with him. I definitely wouldn't go as far as to say that WWE 'shit the bed' with him, though. Honestly, I probably would have been furious if he was a full-fledged main eventer.

parkmania 10-01-2009 12:04 AM

Didn't Holly almost die from something to do with his arm right after the back slice match? I think that probably put a big damper on any push he was about to recieve.

screech 10-01-2009 12:19 AM

I love RVD and would love to see him back, but not full-time. A program with Punk would be amazing, but beyond that he would just get lost in the shuffle.

Afterlife 10-01-2009 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJHayes (Post 2747491)
I would agree with this. RVD and Holly had a great thing going back when WWECW got started up. (see: Hollys sliced back). If I had the book, I would have pushed Holly to the main event in ECW, and I think that his stiff "anti-rookie" style could have taken him places.

Naturally, WWE shit the bed on that one.

I actually hated that Holly was as high as he was in ECW.

Jura 10-01-2009 12:52 AM

Rod Von Darn

kareru 10-01-2009 11:37 AM

to be honest i wouldn't want to see RVD back in the wwe,rvd was one of those wrestlers that was too good for wwe and as a consequence wasnt used to his full POTentional he could do some awesome things in roh or maybe even dragongate usa

Theo Dious 10-01-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kami Raki (Post 2747190)
They teased an RVD/CM Punk encounter in the Extreme Elimination Chamber a few years back. I wouldn't mind RVD being back, just not on Raw or ECW.

Now appearing EXCLUSIVELY on Superstars... :shifty:

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-01-2009 01:42 PM

I'm sorry but what a silly fucking topic. Why would we not an great talent who hasn't been around for years, back?

Theo Dious 10-01-2009 01:42 PM

Well, he DID get himself suspended out of two titles at the same time...


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