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Supreme Olajuwon 10-26-2009 07:40 PM

Better Wrestler #98
 
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"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels

VS


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"The Canadian Crippler" Chris Benoit


3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option></select>

Waylander 10-26-2009 08:32 PM

Mark one down for HBK.

Why? Well lets just say there's more to wrestling than wrestling. Benoit had the charisma of the belt he held in the above picture.

ron the dial 10-26-2009 08:33 PM

benoit may have been an exceptional techincal wrestler, but he's got nothing on HBK.

Supreme Olajuwon 10-26-2009 08:40 PM

There was a time where Benoit was for me the best wrestler in the world. I dunno if I could ever say that for HBK. This is tough.

Tazz Dan 10-26-2009 09:32 PM

Nice one Supreme. Benoit gets my vote.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-26-2009 10:12 PM

Reluctantly, my vote goes to Crispin Wah.

Zen v.W.o. 10-27-2009 12:33 AM

tbh if HBK beat Bret I dont see why he wouldnt beat benoit since Bret is better than Benoit, but im voting Benoit in the hopes it screws over shawn.

KYR 10-27-2009 01:31 AM

Never heard of the second wrestler so my vote goes to HBK.

Rammsteinmad 10-27-2009 05:12 AM

Benoit. All the way. Nobody is gonna get my vote over Benoit. Favourite wrestler of all time right there.

CWK 10-27-2009 05:30 AM

Chris Benoit, easily.

CWK 10-27-2009 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 2790010)
Benoit. All the way. Nobody is gonna get my vote over Benoit. Favourite wrestler of all time right there.

Nice to see someone who appreciates Benoit's work and doesn't let his personal mistakes influence the views you have on his wrestling skills

The Jayman 10-27-2009 08:17 AM

My vote goes to Benoit

CSL 10-27-2009 10:19 AM

Baffling 'results' atm

The Mackem 10-27-2009 10:59 AM

Mine was a pity vote

Ermaximus 10-27-2009 11:03 AM

Wouldn't be a challenge any other way. Benoit.

Nark Order 10-27-2009 12:21 PM

Benoit was better at certain aspects of the game. He was an incredible technical wrestler and he slaughtered his family better than HBK ever could but I still went with the Heart Break Kid.

Haze 10-27-2009 12:33 PM

Benoit was the better technical wrestler.

But HBK was the better wrestler overall.

Inadequacy 10-27-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2788968)
There was a time where Benoit was for me the best wrestler in the world. I dunno if I could ever say that for HBK.


CSL 10-27-2009 02:25 PM

Shawn Michaels is the greatest, most consisent in-ring performer in the history of professional wrestling. No amount of crucifix armbars, bow and arrow holds and inverted three quarter figure four leglocks will ever change that

CWK 10-27-2009 03:20 PM

People want to talk about what Benoit did, but you can't erase Wrestlemania 20 at Madison Square Garden, which I might add Shawn Michaels was in that match and lost and Chris Benoit was victorious. Benoit, easily.

Verbose Minch 10-27-2009 03:30 PM

Benoit is my all time favorite wrestler, easily. He didn't need buttloads of charisma, he just had to go out and kick major ass.

Inadequacy 10-27-2009 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWK (Post 2790457)
People want to talk about what Benoit did, but you can't erase Wrestlemania 20 at Madison Square Garden, which I might add Shawn Michaels was in that match and lost and Chris Benoit was victorious. Benoit, easily.

Benoit and Eddie celebrating after that match is one of my favourite moments ever as a fan.

Juan 10-27-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2789792)
tbh if HBK beat Bret I dont see why he wouldnt beat benoit since Bret is better than Benoit

yeah. interesting logic by the TPWW wrestling forum posters.

AJHayes 10-27-2009 05:17 PM

Michaels shouldn't have gone this far.

Benoit, easily.

ron the dial 10-27-2009 05:52 PM

honestly surprised by this so far

Rammsteinmad 10-27-2009 06:30 PM

Same here, I kinda expected a Michaels to squash Benoit in this.

Rammsteinmad 10-27-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inadequacy (Post 2790480)
Benoit and Eddie celebrating after that match is one of my favourite moments ever as a fan.

That is my greatest moment as a wrestling fan ever. I'm not ashamed to admit I did have a tear in my eye watching it live (on TV) when it happened. Good times. :'(

thedamndest 10-27-2009 06:32 PM

You always get a lot better after you die.

Inadequacy 10-27-2009 06:36 PM

I think it's interesting that the first time benoit was on better wrestler he was totally squashed.

The Mackem 10-27-2009 06:43 PM

Yeah, people must be starting to forgive and forget. If Benoit wins this round, I reckon he'll go out to whoever he faces next.

CWK 10-27-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 2790727)
That is my greatest moment as a wrestling fan ever. I'm not ashamed to admit I did have a tear in my eye watching it live (on TV) when it happened. Good times. :'(

One of my favorite moments as well. I watched the RAW tribute to Benoit live as it happened and that moment closed the show. One of the most erie feelings I have ever had watching wrestling. It just hit me as I watched it, I was just saying to myself, holy shit they are both gone.

Theo Dious 10-27-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2790729)
You always get a lot better after you die.

Just ask Kurt Cobain.

Nicky Fives 10-27-2009 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2790383)
Shawn Michaels is the greatest, most consisent in-ring performer in the history of professional wrestling. No amount of crucifix armbars, bow and arrow holds and inverted three quarter figure four leglocks will ever change that

THIS..... HBK is the best ever..... Not Flair, Not Bret, not Hogan, not Benoit, not anyone

XCaliber 10-27-2009 09:00 PM

HBK is not the best but he's certainly better than Benoit and yeah sadly if this had been a few years ago my vote would have been cast to that coward.

What Would Kevin Do? 10-27-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2790383)
Shawn Michaels is the greatest, most consisent in-ring performer in the history of professional wrestling. No amount of crucifix armbars, bow and arrow holds and inverted three quarter figure four leglocks will ever change that


Inadequacy 10-27-2009 09:28 PM

It was nice while it lasted

CWK 10-27-2009 09:30 PM

Damn, Benoit has fallen behind in the voting

Xero 10-28-2009 01:21 PM

Wow this is closer than I would have guessed.

Sixx 10-28-2009 01:28 PM

I just tied this motherfucker.

Hornicane 10-28-2009 01:48 PM

I'll say this, Benoit was one of my favourite wrestlers. Despite the glaring lack of charisma, he actually managed to make me care about what he was doing, and HBK never really did that for me. I'll admit, a lot of that is probably because I started watching regularly around '99 or whenev when he was just the commisioner character, so a lot of the classic HBK matches I've only seen well after the fact. Benoit actually got me emotionally invested into what he was doing though. The triple threat Euro-Continental match with Jericho and Angle is one of my favorite matches. I'd mark out every time he got a title shot, and I marked the fuck out when he finally won it. In that time, however, I can't recall ever really marking out for HBK.

However, I can admit that Michaels is the total package, and one of, if not the best all-around preformer in the business, and for that he deserves to win it.

That required way too much time and thought. :-\


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