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Xero 12-09-2009 12:06 PM

Could the Piledriver return as an actual finisher?
 
With it being "banned" for so many years, I think it'd be cool if one guy in WWE started using the Piledriver as a finisher. For years it had been a "staple" move, but I think they could bring it back for someone and really make it seem special.

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ron the dial 12-09-2009 12:08 PM

piledrivers and ddts are my 2 favorite moves so i'm all about more piledrivers

ron the dial 12-09-2009 12:08 PM

and since nobody in the wwe uses them anymore i don't see why it couldn't be a finisher. just don't see it happening.

The Jayman 12-09-2009 12:09 PM

so you piledrivers eh WeX :naughty:

Gerard 12-09-2009 12:10 PM

Its weird that a move as simplistic as the piledriver has been banned, we all know what happened with austin but that was more of a tombstone varient than anything. The regular piledriver looks pretty easy to keep the opponent safe yet its not been used in years. Suprised they havn't banned the ddt as its essentialy the same outcome as a piledriver, mat meet head.

ron the dial 12-09-2009 12:11 PM

what the hell does piledriver even mean? thinking about that right now and i can't see why it would be called that. am i missing something?

The Show Off 12-09-2009 12:22 PM

Eric Young uses a piledriver as a finishing move.

"A pile driver is a mechanical device used to drive piles into soil to provide foundation support for buildings or other structures. The term is also used in reference to members of the construction crew that work with pile-driving rigs.

"One traditional type of pile driver includes a heavy weight placed between guides so that it is able to freely slide up and down in a single line. It is placed upon a pile. The weight is raised, which may involve the use of hydraulics, steam, diesel, or manual labour. When the weight reaches its highest point it is then released and smashes on to the pile in order to drive it into the ground."

The term piledriver in the wrestling sense gets its name because it's similar movement to the actual mechanical pile driver.

ron the dial 12-09-2009 12:24 PM

thank you, the show off, for doing the research i had no intention of doing. i had no idea that there was such a thing as a pile driver.

Ermaximus 12-09-2009 12:37 PM

The only guy in WWE I can think of that still does/might do it would be Lawler, but even then I think his finish move was changed to that weak ass Fist drop.

Jordan 12-09-2009 12:42 PM

HBK will tease it from time to time. I think he's hit it once or twice in recent years. Maybe against Taker?

redoneja 12-09-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 2849113)
HBK will tease it from time to time. I think he's hit it once or twice in recent years. Maybe against Taker?

Yea for some reason I think he may have done it during their WM 25 match.

Anybody Thrilla 12-09-2009 12:52 PM

The Undertaker never stopped doing his stupid piledriver. What's the deal with that?

The Show Off 12-09-2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 2849113)
HBK will tease it from time to time. I think he's hit it once or twice in recent years. Maybe against Taker?

He did it at Wrestlemania 23 against John Cena onto the steel steps, intrestingly enough I just watched that match.

Xero 12-09-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2849126)
The Undertaker never stopped doing his stupid piledriver. What's the deal with that?

Yes he did. When he had the Last Ride he RARELY used the Tombstone except in big match situations/angles.

Jordan 12-09-2009 01:01 PM

Now the tombstone looks really fake.

Jordan 12-09-2009 01:01 PM

Btw Steiner hit the Steiner screwdriver recently on Amazing Red and it was fucking sick. I felt like I was playing WCW vs NWO Revenge.

HBPunk 12-09-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 2849142)
Now the tombstone looks really fake.

Tombstone always looked lame,if anything taker should roll about selling a double knee injury. That would be awesome if he kept doing it and his opponent just rolled over him for the 3 right after it

Jordan 12-09-2009 01:18 PM

To answer the question yes I love the piledriver and I think it would be a great finisher for somebody to use.

BigDaddyCool 12-09-2009 01:20 PM

The piledriver is such a good finisher.

The Show Off 12-09-2009 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Show Off (Post 2849086)
Eric Young uses a piledriver as a finishing move.


Xero 12-09-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2849068)
With it being "banned" for so many years, I think it'd be cool if one guy in WWE started using the Piledriver as a finisher. For years it had been a "staple" move, but I think they could bring it back for someone and really make it seem special.

Because the Piledriver isn't banned elsewhere.

The Show Off 12-09-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2849201)
Because the Piledriver isn't banned elsewhere.

Ahh I overlooked that, my bad. It was a situation where I just read the thread title, which didn't mention a specific league.

Though to be fair every time Eric Young uses it Tenay makes a big deal about the piledriver being practically banned as it's an unwritten rule between the boys not to use it.

The Jayman 12-09-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2849126)
The Undertaker never stopped doing his stupid piledriver. What's the deal with that?

Kane's tombstone was better

Xero 12-09-2009 01:49 PM

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Droford 12-09-2009 01:53 PM

Its also one of the worst looking finishers if they dont get the camera angle right and you can see how protected the pile drivee is.

jskinnyg 12-09-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 2849146)
Btw Steiner hit the Steiner screwdriver recently on Amazing Red and it was fucking sick. I felt like I was playing WCW vs NWO Revenge.

Yes he did... First time I have liked anything that ass clown has done in years... and WCW vs NITRO Revenge was AWESOME!

screech 12-09-2009 04:52 PM

How dare you badmouth Scott Steiner :mad:

screech 12-09-2009 04:55 PM

Responding to the thread, yes I do think it can be used in WWE and put over as something big. I could see a Mike Knox-type character using it just to try to take out his opponents.

screech 12-09-2009 04:56 PM

I don't think Knox should be the guy, though. I feel like he's too big to pull it off well (if that makes sense).

The Jayman 12-09-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2849256)
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god I wish they could have built more on this :-\

Xero 12-09-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 2849585)
I don't think Knox should be the guy, though. I feel like he's too big to pull it off well (if that makes sense).

I see what you're saying. It's not exactly a move that looks good when the guy giving it is huge. Always seems weird when I watch a match from the 80s between two relatively big guys and a Piledriver is executed. Just doesn't look good.

That's how I see it anyway.

screech 12-09-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2849587)
I see what you're saying. It's not exactly a move that looks good when the guy giving it is huge.

Right. Plus, Knox can do other menacing things to serve the same purpose because of his size.

The Pope 12-09-2009 05:58 PM

Eric young does it well

Damian Rey 12-09-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 2849585)
I don't think Knox should be the guy, though. I feel like he's too big to pull it off well (if that makes sense).

First person that came to mind was Sheamus. It's a tad late in terms of buildup, but having him exploit Cena's "surgically repaired neck" with a piledriver would have been a decent way to get him over as a semi-legit threat.

DAMN iNATOR 12-09-2009 08:46 PM

I'd enjoy seeing a real piledriver become one of the new guys sig/finisher maneuvers, especially since the Tombstone variation just seems so played out these days.

Anywho, this question reminded me of an old classic from back in the day...
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Indifferent Clox 12-09-2009 09:39 PM

Craziest sick piledriever ever at threemendous 2 chris hero v joey ryan, he wraps a chain around his neck and legit drops him on his head.

ClockShot 12-09-2009 09:43 PM

Lawler always used it as a finisher.

But other variations i.e. the Brainbuster, Vertibreaker, also should make a comeback.

However, there's gotta be a way to not put much of the move on head/neck.

Jeritron 12-09-2009 10:36 PM

RVD could sell a hell of a piledriver

Indifferent Clox 12-09-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 2850062)
Lawler always used it as a finisher.

But other variations i.e. the Brainbuster, Vertibreaker, also should make a comeback.

However, there's gotta be a way to not put much of the move on head/neck.

it's called working a match and not trying to rush through it to ge to the midget segment

The Mackem 12-10-2009 10:35 AM

It's good that these moves are getting back their 'special' status as opposed to be used by every other guy as a 'normal' move which is how it seemed years back.


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