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Supreme Olajuwon 12-21-2009 12:54 PM

Better Wrestler #115
 
Congratulations to The Undertaker on becoming the sixth member of the Better Wrestler Hall of Fame.

Now let's start er up again.

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3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option></select>

Ermaximus 12-21-2009 12:58 PM

OMFG!!!

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/r...Simmons002.jpg

Rammsteinmad 12-21-2009 01:16 PM

JBL. I loved his title reign in 2004.

Joesgonnakillyou 12-21-2009 01:34 PM

Pfft. I'm still sulking that Taker beat Flair, What a load of shit.

JBL i suppose.

The Jayman 12-21-2009 01:34 PM

In JBL I trust

XCaliber 12-21-2009 01:41 PM

Ron Simmons pretty much a no brainer to me.

Theo Dious 12-21-2009 01:57 PM

Farooq Asad vs the Wrestling God!

Anyways JBL. I love you Ron, but... damn.

Lock Jaw 12-21-2009 02:49 PM

I love JBL. Ever since his turn into the JBL character, he was consistently one of my favourite guys to watch.

Sure, he was no masterpiece in the ring, but he got by and he was such a great heel that you wanted to tune in to see him get his ass kicked.

Truly one of the most entertaining heels in a long time.

I miss him greatly and wish he would come back.

Join CM Punk's stable or something. :shifty:

Or conversely, start one of his own.

Ermaximus 12-21-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2868155)
I love JBL. Ever since his turn into the JBL character, he was consistently one of my favourite guys to watch.

Sure, he was no masterpiece in the ring, but he got by and he was such a great heel that you wanted to tune in to see him get his ass kicked.

Truly one of the most entertaining heels in a long time.

I miss him greatly and wish he would come back.

Join CM Punk's stable or something. :shifty:

Or conversely, start one of his own.

JBL's Cabinet Mach 2.0?

Nicky Fives 12-21-2009 03:47 PM

The Wrsetling God over the one-line wonder

Indifferent Clox 12-21-2009 03:55 PM

lariat

Tazz Dan 12-21-2009 07:22 PM

Farooq.

Theo Dious 12-21-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 2868035)

Wrong R Simmons, here, people...

Seth82 12-21-2009 08:44 PM

def. Ron Simmons as his WCW work was great

plus him and Butch Reed as Doom rocked

Skippord 12-21-2009 08:45 PM

Ron Simmons

JBL sucked

Triple Naitch 12-21-2009 10:46 PM

JBL made the people hate him so much.

Ermaximus 12-21-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2868539)
Wrong R Simmons, here, people...

I just wanted a pic of the guy up there as Supreme's Photobucket likes to mess up on him.

The Gold Standard 12-22-2009 01:41 AM

JBL gets the nod because of his outstanding mic skills.

Gertner 12-22-2009 03:16 AM

JBL and I know he's gonna get crapped on by alot of people here but he was probably my favourite wrestler of the decade. Loved the Acolytes, loved the APA, and friggen loved JBL.

Gertner 12-22-2009 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth82 (Post 2868678)
def. Ron Simmons as his WCW work was great

plus him and Butch Reed as Doom rocked

I disagree. His WCW work was pretty bad. Didn't get remotely over as World Champ. Bill Watts tried to turn him into the WCW version of the Junkyard Dog and failed miserably. Doom was alright, kinda liked Butch Reed, but his WCW wasn't too great.

DAMN iNATOR 12-22-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2868539)
Wrong R Simmons, here, people...

No, it was never specifically stated that either wrestler featured in this Round had to be voted on based on any one particular part of their careers. *SIGH* :roll:

Lock Jaw 12-22-2009 01:35 PM

Seriously don't know how people can hate JBL. He was so incredibly Awesome.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-22-2009 01:46 PM

Well he wasn't anything special in the ring and apparently he was a huge cock to people backstage (hence why Joey Styles knocked him the FUCK OUT). So there's at least a couple reasons why people don't like him.

ron the dial 12-22-2009 02:40 PM

if we were judging up until the JBL days, i might have called a draw. but it's really not even close for me. JBL was always entertaining as a character, which made up for his in-ring work now always being amazing.

Gertner 12-22-2009 03:14 PM

His in ring work wasn't bad at all. He was hardly one of the worst on the roster at any given time.

Nark Order 12-22-2009 03:35 PM

JBL was a much more complete package.

Emperor Smeat 12-22-2009 04:07 PM

JBL mostly for his post-APA split solo career. Managed to go from a lovable drunk who loves to beat up people to a hated wrestler similar in style to the Million Dollar Man when it came to making money the main part of his gimmick. His time as a commentator was also good in how well he worked with people and was less bland/stale than JR and King were becoming on Raw.

I liked both guys when they were a tag team but it seemed that once they split, Ron Simmons basically faded away while JBL rose to the heavyweight title scene.

Lock Jaw 12-22-2009 04:09 PM

Well, Ron Simmons pretty much retired when they split. So you can't blame a retired guy for fading away.

Emperor Smeat 12-22-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2869840)
Well, Ron Simmons pretty much retired when they split. So you can't blame a retired guy for fading away.

Forgot about that part since it does explain why he was basically gone wrestling wise. "Fading away" probably was a bad choice of words but the timing of him retiring and JBL rising as a new character did occur roughly at the same time.

redoneja 12-22-2009 04:49 PM

In terms of in-ring work, they are pretty even. JBL was the better talker and had more charisma, so I'll give it to him.


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