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Monday Night War 2010 Ratings
http://www.tpww.net/2010/01/early-tn...rating-are-in/
"Word is going around that last night’s live 3-hour edition of TNA iMPACT! drew a 1.5 average cable rating for the entire show. At this time, ratings data is not available for the individual hours or quarter hours, but it will be released shortly. WWE RAW did a 3.37 which is not good at all for Bret Hart’s return. More shortly." This makes me exteremly happy..... Hogan's dreams of a 3.0 were completely unfounded..... but did anyone even think that TNA pulling a 3.0 was even possible? |
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not at all, but a 1.5 on a Monday night against Raw with a returning Bret Hart isnt too shabby.
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Wow, TNA took a lot away from WWE. I have no doubt WWE would have been a 4 if they weren't against TNA.
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Not surprised, TNA had the better show overall. WWE just relied on one or two big segments.
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I wasn't really surprised with either rating. WWE really felt like buisness as usual for most of the night, with a few bright moments, but everytime you turned the channel to TNA someone else would show up. Now if they could maintain a 1.5 for a month or two, then I would be impressed.
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I think the bigger question is how much of the audience switched over for RAW. I want to see the first hour's rating.
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They were both going up the Fiesta Bowl also.
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The bigger questions for TNA:
1) What was Spike pulling in from other shows in the same timeslot? 2) What will Spike pull next week with the UFC? These are the main questions which, when answered, may lead to an actual Monday Night War 2 instead of just a Monday Night One-Off. |
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And what will TNA's ratings be like next week and the week after?
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I don't think 1.5 is that great, as their average viewership is around 1.0-1.3, so theoretically they only stole 0.2 of the ratings from WWE.... which is still a bit of a stretch
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I really don't think they were aiming to steal from Raw, if they were they'd have done it on a day where they weren't going against Raw AND the Fiesta Bowl. Pretty sure this was just more of a test to see if they could hold their own, which they did and then some
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I want to see a breakdown of the ratings by the segment. :shifty:
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Who cares about the freakin break down? You're talking about an overall improvement in ratings going against the competition. Regardless of the breakdown, they were successful...end of story. Now, moving the show back to Thursday could cause things to waver a little bit, as well as the fact that not every show will be as big as that one.
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That extra hour bumps the rest of the night up unopposed to RAW. It's the two hours AGAINST RAW which should be of concern. |
I would love for TNA to stay on Monday and run commercials on USA for the Impact that is happening that night during Raw.
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But nobody realistic thought it. But WWE didn't do bad with Bret Hart at the Helm. With popular programming on elsewhere (Fiesta Bowl, Heroes, etc.), with a trend where they were doing less than 3.0 on several nights recently, this could be a good night. Though the reported numbers tend to be high, and I wouldn't be surprised if Raw drew a 3.0.... |
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If they can get Spike to go along with it, I could see them running Monday every other week. They already tape on Monday as it is, and the second taping is the next day.
I think WWE did it this way for a while with RAW. |
Apparently the higher-ups at Spike would have been happy if TNA had gotten a 1.0. That they (reportedly) managed to half-way double that is impressive. Spike TV will be happy with this, and things look great for TNA's growth. Considering TNA was going against Bret Hart, the Fiesta Bowl, etc. and they managed to have their biggest numbers is a good sign for them.
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Good showing in the ratings from TNA; though they need to step up their game still with the bookings and the wasted time. The frequent commercial breaks seem to be a major problem as well, as they're losing people from what I have seen and read during all of those frequent time outs.
The show overall I think was superior to the product RAW put out against it. Also, I see where they are going with Styles and a few others - but they need to cut some of Hogan's dead weight bring-alongs, like Orlando Jordan, Val Venis, etc. and get rid of some of these guys like Tomko, etc. who are just not needed there. They should be more focused, and hopefully they will become so, on getting talents that are worth putting on the broadcasts - ones who can actually perform in the ring / on the mic. Hope these guys are just temporary. I'd love to see them continue pushing the tag division, and bringing in older teams every now and again for 1-2 shot deals. Like the Nastys, Steiners, Too Cool, The Bashams, F.B.I., Faces of Fear, Headshrinkers, The Mamalukes, etc. To keep pushing the new talent against these established teams and build some great new teams in the process. Also, tighten up the X-Division and get rid of Homicide. |
Most people seem worried about the way things could be going with how Monday night went, as far as booking. I think it's too early to judge yet.
I'm sure Monday they felt the need to cram all these names in as fast and best possible while also showing off some of their homegrown talent, with wrestling sadly taking a major back seat. The next show may be more of the same, but after that it SHOULD start to normalize, then we can judge how everything is effecting their booking. Anyone who expected Monday to have been anything other than a name cramming session was being overly hopeful. |
The Hogan I know of old would have pointed to officials and said that he was the reason the ratings were higher in the first hour. Probably would have got extra $$$ and another title reign because of it as well. We'll see how this one turns out.
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Tna did a 1.7 in the first hour and probably the most marking out i have done in a few years
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"Impact peaked with 2.90 million viewers for the 9:00 to 9:15 p.m. EST quarter-hour with Hulk Hogan's debut opposite WWE Raw opening with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels."
I guess Hogan was sort of correct of being able to reach a 3.0 rating since his segment managed to come very close to it but not the whole show overall. |
1 million viewers =/= 1 ratings point.
2.9 million would be about a 1.7-1.8 rating RAWs 3.5 first hour rating = 5.4 million viewers |
Forgot all about viewers not being 1:1 with ratings
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Still, Hogan was almost able to double Impact's normal ratings, so it still counts for something I'd say
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A Monday Night, especially one with a big football game, you need more viewers to get the same rating. Getting their usual .8-.9 would mean an increase, and getting a higher rating, like say the supposed 1.6, would mean a much higher number of viewers. 2.9 million viewers is an amazing increase. One that would look bigger if it was on the same night as usual. They'd have to be averaging 1.5 million a night to not have doubled their numbers, and I'm almost positive they weren't getting that. Though, there was a lot that went into that, not just Hogan. And they can't keep injecting "names" like they did. |
If TNA did do a 1.7 for the first hour, that's better than some Smackdown shows have done in the past and totally destroyed Superstars and ECW ratings,
The main issue here is that most people tuned in to see what would happen in terms of new faces, it didn't disappoint, and was a very good show, however, they can't do that every week, it's impossible, so IF they were to go head to head each week, they need a plan B to keep people interested |
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I don't think even Hogan believes his own hype, let alone TNA's.
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I thought TNA had the better show on Monday period. All the usless cameos were not needed but That Hug between Shawn and Bret was forced.
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Yes Hogan well end up hurting the company in the long Run His Jiz Rag Brain Knobbs needs to be fired NOW!
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