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NoJabbaNoBogRoll 02-21-2010 07:14 AM

Should Keith Jardine Be Cut?
 
In the last three years, Jardine has only won two fights... Both by split decision.

In that same time period, he's been knocked out four times, plus a unanimous decision loss.

Here, for quick reference:

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color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">15𤖫</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Brazil.svg.png Thiago Silva</td> <td align="left">KO (Punches)</td> <td align="left">UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira</td> <td align="left">02009-08-29 August 29, 2009</td> <td>1</td> <td>1:35</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Portland, Oregon, US</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(255, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">15𤂿</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Quinton Jackson</td> <td align="left">Decision (unanimous)</td> <td align="left">UFC 96: Jackson vs. Jardine</td> <td align="left">02009-03-07 March 7, 2009</td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">5:00</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Columbus, Ohio, United States</td> <td><small>Won Fight Of The Night</small></td> </tr> <tr style="text-align: center;"> <td style="background: rgb(221, 255, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td align="center">15𣯓</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Brandon Vera</td> <td align="left">Decision (Split)</td> <td align="left">UFC 89: Bisping vs Leben</td> <td align="left">02008-10-18 October 18, 2008</td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">5:00</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ingdom.svg.png Birmingham, England, UK</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(255, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">14𣯓</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Brazil.svg.png Wanderlei Silva</td> <td align="left">KO (Punches)</td> <td align="left">UFC 84: Ill Will</td> <td align="left">02008-05-24 May 24, 2008</td> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="center">0:36</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Las Vegas, Nevada, United States</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(221, 255, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td align="center">14𣛧</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Chuck Liddell</td> <td align="left">Decision (Split)</td> <td align="left">UFC 76: Knockout</td> <td align="left">02007-09-22 September 22, 2007</td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">5:00</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Anaheim, California, United States</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(255, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">13𣛧</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Houston Alexander</td> <td align="left">KO (Punches)</td> <td align="left">UFC 71: Liddell vs. Jackson</td> <td align="left">02007-05-26 May 26, 2007</td> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="center">0:48</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...States.svg.png Las Vegas, Nevada, United States</td></tr></tbody></table>

Impact! 02-21-2010 08:04 AM

Nah, right now he's a good gate keeper.

The Mask 02-21-2010 10:12 AM

no shame in losing to the people he's lost to i suppose.

The Mask 02-21-2010 10:14 AM

maybe shoved to prelims or something rather than being cut altogether. ufc need to be wary of cutting fighters who might make a strikeforce/dream card more interesting.

Impact! 02-21-2010 10:28 AM

Houston - Underestimated
Chuck - Won Fight
Wanderlei - Got Caught (/It's motherfuckin Wanderlei :p )
Vera - Won Fight (against a guy who is pretty solid)
Rampage - Lost very close fight
Thiago - Got caught, was doing well
Bader - Possibly underestimated?

Basically I'd say give him someone like Luis Cane, Te Huna or even Schafer to see where he stands.

Also off topic but am I the only one who would like to see Bonnar attempt a drop to Middleweight?

The Mask 02-21-2010 10:48 AM

bonnar needs to do something. get the feeling his heart isn't in it anymore.

Nark Order 02-21-2010 12:28 PM

I don't think so. He's lost his last 3 fights but all of his fights have been against top competition and he puts up a competitive fight every time. It's not like he gets rolled on constantly.

Krimzon7 02-21-2010 12:45 PM

I do think they should cut Jardine.

I also think Bonnar sees the ceiling at 205, and he sees the ceiling at 185. He knows he isn't a contender in either class, and that has to suck.

Nark Order 02-21-2010 12:55 PM

All Jardine's fights have been very hard fights for the most part. I suppose if he did what Bisping did and fight only cans then he'd have alot more wins. Jardine takes all fights that come his way. He wins some against top guys, he loses some. Bisping only fights cans and loses whenever he takes on a fight against some legitimate opposition. I'd rather have Jardine's career, I'd say.

IC Champion 02-21-2010 03:32 PM

Jardine wont get cut for the simple fact that he will always stand and bang, and give a decent fight at the least.

Vastardikai 02-21-2010 04:24 PM

^

And c'mon if he leaves UFC, he will go full blown Techno Viking at SF.

Dave Youell 02-21-2010 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 2948158)
Jardine wont get cut for the simple fact that he will always stand and bang, and give a decent fight at the least.

Yet they cut Houston?

(whom I loved)

Reavant 02-21-2010 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell (Post 2948257)
Yet they cut Houston?

(whom I loved)

he doesnt stand and bang anymore

Dave Youell 02-21-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 2948258)
he doesnt stand and bang anymore

It's still real to me dammit! :'(

Innovator 02-22-2010 02:32 PM

Where is the yes - I just don't like him?

Mr. JL 02-22-2010 04:32 PM

I say he should be cut. I had no idea his record was that bad. He's a good fighter but he just does not have the chin.

Reavant 02-22-2010 05:51 PM

if he loses to someone who isnt top competition then he should end up being cut but not yet

Funky Fly 03-02-2010 09:37 PM

I don't want to see him go, but all these KOs are bad for your health.


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