Originally Posted by PerfectOne:
Like I said, I'm not as "uber" as you. I don't give a damn about "ring skill." I care about entertainment. To me, Savage was not entertaining. To me, Benoit is not entertaining either. Neither is HHH, or Steve Austin.
People who entertained me in their matches are people like Chris Jericho, Big Show, the Rock, Christian, the Acolytes, Undertaker (used to), Booker T (in WCW), Eddie Guerrero (in WCW), Jeff Jarrett and Owen Hart, D'Lo Brown, DDP (in WCW), Rey Mysterio Jr., etc. Not all of these people are the best "wrestlers." Big Show doesn't know a suplex from a souffle, and the Rock has maybe 10 moves to his name. But I find they either tell STORIES in the ring, or are just entertaining on a "OMG he's such a hoss," mentality. How you can say Randy Savage, who was always a supporting wrestler at best, is better than REY MYSTERIO JR (the man who carried the cruiserweight division in WCW and WWE), or RAVEN (next to Kanyon, one of the most innovative wrestlers in modern wrestling), or RIC FLAIR (who in NWA and WCW had more charisma in his pinky than Macho Man EVER had, period), is beyond me. I think it's stupid and shows that people today are too busy trying to prove that they are sooo incredibly smart and know all the insider info, that they can judge the "wrestling" abilities people have in a FAKE sport, and pretending that they know ANYTHING about backstage politics, when all they do know is second-hand bullshit passed down by a couple of gossips in the "biz."
I don't know where anyone here gets off on calling themselves an expert in wrestling. To hear it told here, Hulk Hogan was the biggest mistake of the wrestling world (which would explain why he is arguably the most recognizable name in wrestling); Goldberg, Nash, and Hall were wastes of money (when Goldberg and NWO WON the Monday Night wars for WCW), etc.
Like I said, you are so stuck on your own status as a "smark" or whatever the f___ you're call yourselves now, you forgot the purpose of wrestling. The purpose of wrestling in ENTERTAINMENT, so when I judge a wrestler, that's the sole basis for my judgement. PERIOD! I have watched EVERY Wrestlemania. I have watched almost every WCW ppv. And I just don't find Randy Savage entertaining. I didn't find Hogan entertaining as well, and would have scored him low as well (although many people did find him entertaining). But my score wouldn't have been do to politics I can't possibly know about except for by heresay, nor would it been because of some magical "wrestling ability" that no one can define, but everyone agrees that Benoit and Angle have and no one else does.
It's the same reason I won't bother voting in your thing, Loose Cannon, because I know my opinions will be discounted as superficial and trivial since they don't conform to your values or the "smark" values. I think the greatest moment in wrestling history was the debut of the Acolytes, when they interfered in an Edge and Christian match. It showed the reemergance of POWER wrestling in the WWE. Edge tried a spear off the top rope, Farooq caught him, and delivered an incredible spine buster. The Hardy's and E&C combined managed to get Bradshaw in a corner and Jeff Hardy tried a Poetry in Motion off the back of Christian, but Bradshaw leapt out the corner and delivered the clothesline from Hell, destroying him. THAT was my favorite moment in wrestling, period. But you don't care, because "smarks" like you will not be judging anything on entertainment, but instead pulling stuff out your a$$ to prove how much of an insider you are, even though you aren't an insider at all.
It's funny how you and others think that your opinions on wrestling are so superior to mine, or anyone else's. I would listen to JR if he disagreed with my opinion. I would listen to Kevin Sullivan. I would listen to Paul Heyman, or Ric Flair, or Taz, or Arn Anderson, or Vince Russo, or Vince McMahon, or Pat Patterson, or several others. Their opinions are probably better formed than mine because they have years of legitimate experience in the business. Compared to them, you're opinions are worth piss, and certainly no better or worse than my own.
Perhaps you should you think about taking a "grow up" pill next time you choose to attack someone's intelligence and pro-wrestling experience when you know nothing about them, and then tell them to take a "chill pill" when they confront you about it. It shows a lack of maturity that's staggering. I would expect that from a 12 year old, but not a rational adult or teenager.
want a tissue?