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Old 04-07-2014, 07:45 AM   #1
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People seem to want Cena to lose to every younger guy as if Cena himself has been in "pass the torch" mode for years now. He hasn't been. He's still a full-time star and the face of the company. Just being in a competetive match with Cena for a guy who has only been in the company for around 9 months is HUGE for Wyatt and signifies his arrival as a star of the future. Hogan didn't really NEED any of his wins past WrestleMania 3 just to keep him in good standing. But he got them. And he shoulder have. You build a guy up to make his matches draw people in and keep his wins and losses memorable, not to wait til he's established and then just job him out to the all the younger guys just because he doesn't NEED to win anymore.
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People seem to want Cena to lose to every younger guy as if Cena himself has been in "pass the torch" mode for years now. He hasn't been. He's still a full-time star and the face of the company. Just being in a competetive match with Cena for a guy who has only been in the company for around 9 months is HUGE for Wyatt and signifies his arrival as a star of the future.
Cena losing doesn't affect him at all though, he's still going to be pushed as strong as ever and wins/losses mean nothing to the way Cena is perceived by his fanbase, it would make the guys that go over him seem like a bigger deal. The only good that came from this is that for once Cena didn't laugh and joke his way through the buildup.
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Overall a great Wrestlemania to watch tonight. Enjoyed pretty much every part of it.

Like millions of others and all of the arena, I could not believe Taker got pinned. Absolute shock. Taker should get the last half an hour of Raw tomorrow and a standing ovation from every single person in the building. I am glad in my first live wrestling event I was able to see Taker's last WM win in person, too.

The way they did Bryan's story tonight was outstanding. It may have been the obvious route but it was the right one. Crowd was amazing despite what Asmo was questioning, and he gave a great ending to a great Wrestlemania.
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really enjoyable show, but then again i also thought it looked good on paper. taker/lesnar still seems weird to me. it wasn't a very good match as far as telling a story goes, or even as far as spots go. i have no problem with the streak ending because it definitely should have at some point. not sure if lesnar was the right guy, but that will ultimately be determined by what they do from here. does he automatically step into the title scene? i'd imagine he has to. where else is there to go?
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I really wanted Cena to go full Sith mode and join the dark side. Not terribly upset that he won; the match itself was phenomenal and Wyatt still goes over huge despite the loss. But I think it would have been a much more impactful finish if Cena gave in to the dark side and started choking bitches with the Force
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Day after, and I still can't believe the streak is over. Seems so surreal to me.

I hope Undertaker isn't done. He should get his win back on Lesnar next year, and then have a few more Manias if he has it in him. Would be an interesting time because him winning is no longer a given.
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Man did you watch that match? He clearly does not "have it in him" anymore. That was a mercy killing if anything. Now that the streak is over, don't further taint it by clinging on way past his prime and leave people with a sour taste in their mouths when they think upon his last ever matches.
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Catching up to everything that happened after the Bryan/Triple H match but so far:

Didn't expect the Shield match to be that big of a squash. The 2 guys in the Triple powerbomb spot was nice.

Ceasaro winning the Andre battle royale. crowd Fandangoing during the match. The Kofi save spot was nice.

Bray getting the special entrance was great. Match was good but meh at Cena winning. Would have been a lot more interesting storyline-wise had Bray won but then again Cena basically shrugged off the fear/legacy aspect of it last week.
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I'm find with Cena winning. It is the first part of their feud and Bray's whole talking point was that he didn't care if he won as long as Cena became a monster. Cena showed flashes of it, which is a great chapter 1 to their feud.

Also, if you watched that entire show and felt the need to complain about Cena winning a middle of the card match, fuck off.
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Haven't seen the rest of the show yet although well aware of what happened with the streak match.
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Really, though, Taker only has himself to blame for losing that match. He exploded the casket meant for Brock... He had nowhere to put him.
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Cena sold that like a champ. Delightfully awkward, that witch doctor at the beginning was top notch stuff
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I was kind of proud that they all got respect for this part. Felt sorry for Orton, that monitor was not kind to him upon landing
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They were conjured by the witch doctor, tailor made and enchanted for WMXXX?

I thought they made that clear in one of the backstage voodoo segments
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I think Bryan and takers shocking nights overshawdowed it but I think that cena wyatt match was amazing.

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Cena losing doesn't affect him at all though, he's still going to be pushed as strong as ever and wins/losses mean nothing to the way Cena is perceived by his fanbase, it would make the guys that go over him seem like a bigger deal. The only good that came from this is that for once Cena didn't laugh and joke his way through the buildup.
For all the "UGH CENA WINS" jokes Cena loses quite a lot. More than enough. Basically...

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Also, no one in the wwe "needs" a win and the whole notion is fucking silly.
This. Like I said, Hogan didn't NEED all those wins either. But he got them. And he should have. Because he was the star of the show. And the star of the show... wins. Not every match can be strictly about building the next big star in one shot.
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For all the "UGH CENA WINS" jokes Cena loses quite a lot. More than enough. Basically...



This. Like I said, Hogan didn't NEED all those wins either. But he got them. And he should have. Because he was the star of the show. And the star of the show... wins. Not every match can be strictly about building the next big star in one shot.
Exactly. There are more ways to make a star and get a heel over other than running roughshot over the top face.

What matters now is not the result from last night. Its the booking of Wyatt going forward. He could have won last night and the ball gets dropped.

If wins really related to elevation Kofi would have been in the main event. Instead he is on the show, the Main Event.
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Streak match was good and shocked Lesnar actually won. Loved the post-match appreciation moment for Taker.

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Bray didn't need the win over Cena, he has plenty of time to build a record at Wrestlemania. I don't think Cena should have lost purely for the sake of 'putting a younger guy over'.
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It depends on what they do with the feud. Does Wyatt continually play mind games with Cena until he eventually "breaks" him and pushes him over the edge? Say they have a few matches here and there or w/e and eventually Cena cracks and goes all Brock Lesnar on him, going full heel sith mode, then the Wyatts laugh and embrace the new monster Cena into their fold. LIGHTNING MODE
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Also, if anyone doesnt need to win in Wyatt. He isnt driven by wins or championships. he has his own goals.
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Shoutout to Kofi on the stairs, the guy is amazing to watch. I'm glad he has that gimmick of being the next Shelton Benjamin. I went there.

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