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Old 01-03-2013, 12:16 PM   #1
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Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
At this time, it appears as if a Brock Lesnar vs. Triple H rematch will take place at WrestleMania 29. Lesnar is expected to return to WWE TV sometime in February and will then make regular appearances to build to the WrestleMania 29 match.
Lesnar’s current deal will end right after WrestleMania. The feeling is that WWE will offer him another deal, as they were happy with the pay-per-view numbers as well as Lesnar’s performances against John Cena at Extreme Rules and Triple H at SummerSlam.
If Lesnar doesn’t sign a new contract, WWE will be faced with a the annual “WrestleMania hangover” dilemma of their special attraction talents (Lesnar, The Rock, The Undertaker, Triple H) all leaving once again. None of these guys will be working a full-time schedule following WrestleMania 29.


How many times can they "go back to the well" before they realize they need to build some names to the level of said wrestlers above?

Not taking away from any of the current roster, and I get the "spectacle" of Mania and what not. Doesn't it speak volumes, though, when they feel the need to get those names for a one-night deal?

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Old 01-03-2013, 01:11 PM   #2
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Not surprised really.

I'm just dreading Cena/Rock III possibly happening at WMXXX.
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Not surprised really.

I'm just dreading Cena/Rock III possibly happening at WMXXX.
I'm dreading Cena/Rock 3 at 29, if they have Punk drop the title to Rock, which would be bullshit. I don't give a shit if you're The Rock, Stone Cold, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, or any great, you shouldn't just fucking waltz in when you feel like and get the title.

As far as Mania 29 is concerned though, as long as Lesnar/Helmsley, or Taker/(Let's say Kane for now), doesn't hold main event over the WWE Championship match. Give that belt the spot it deserves.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:50 PM   #4
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I enjoy seeing these guys coming back more than seeing most the usual guys, but I'm not really excited by the currently proposed matches. Trips v Lesnar and Rock v Cena just seem too predictable.
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:40 PM   #5
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Come on, I do not want to see Lesnar/HHH 2
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Well if Big Vic doesn't want to see it, can someone put a call into Vince for us.
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:29 PM   #7
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Well if Big Vic doesn't want to see it, can someone put a call into Vince for us.
Well I hope I'm not the only one, I think others would like him to face someone else.
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The Lesnar signing was completely mishandled and bungled from the beginning. Cena and Triple H should not have been involved and a Wrestlemania match between H and Lesnar is not going to matter. We already saw it and Lesnar should have been used to attempt to elevate an upcoming talent. It wouldn't have been a gimme, but an attempt would have been more desirable and productive than HHH putting himself over a "monster."
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To be honest, I didn't get into HHH/Lesnar the first time. I guess the question is though, in the time between now and Mania, who would you like to see Lesnar in a feud with? And should he go over? And if so should it be a big name, or somebody on 'the way up'. And if it's not a major name, winning or losing does it put the icing on the cake as a lacklustre run this time around?
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I'd love to see Punk/Lesnar instead or Lesnar/Sheamus. I don't think he should go over either but I'd like to see him win matches on Raw (or win the elimination chamber)
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I'd love to see Punk/Lesnar instead or Lesnar/Sheamus. I don't think he should go over either but I'd like to see him win matches on Raw (or win the elimination chamber)
As great as a Lesnar/Punk match would look on paper, I think it'd be a horrible mismatch both in size and skill for a big event. The only way I see that working would be for Punk and Lesnar to sit in a ring for 3 months straight rehearsing the match.

Sheamus would be a great contender for Lesnar, but I don't think it would sell. It'd be too brawl-y to be taken seriously. Perhaps in an Extreme Rules environment it would go over well.
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They're intent on shoving Miz down our throats, Sheamus, even turning someone with a brawler style face (Barrett). It could have been done with whomever they chose. Doesn't mean it would be successful, just more productive and a step forward.
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Sheamus/Lesnar would be horrible. I do like the suggestion of Punk/Lesnar though.
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I would actually like to see Lesnar/Bryan in a wrestling match. After the Goldberg fiasco at WMXX, personally I'm not excited in seeing him in a 'brawling' style of bout. That's just my opinion there though.
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The ideal one would be Billy Gunn returning at the rumble and eliminating Lesnar setting up a feud, and going over Lesnar at Mania after Brock wins a title at the elimination chamber.
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Sheamus would be a great contender for Lesnar, but I don't think it would sell. It'd be too brawl-y to be taken seriously. Perhaps in an Extreme Rules environment it would go over well.
If Lesnar puts Sheamus over it could help him out big time, the match wouldn't be the greatest but it'd be a good stat for sheamus that could push him to that upper tier

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The ideal one would be Billy Gunn returning at the rumble and eliminating Lesnar setting up a feud, and going over Lesnar at Mania after Brock wins a title at the elimination chamber.
That is what I was hoping for around the end of the summer but I don't see them pushing Dolph as hard as I was hoping for.

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I'd also like to see Bryan vs Lesnar but Lesnar would have to go over. Could make it closer but yeah Lesnar needs to go over.

Some other matches the could put on Raw that I would like to see would be vs Kane\Show\Big E\Ceasaro\Kofi\Orton\ADR

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Old 01-03-2013, 04:42 PM   #17
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I enjoy seeing these guys coming back more than seeing most the usual guys, but I'm not really excited by the currently proposed matches. Trips v Lesnar and Rock v Cena just seem too predictable.
I enjoy them too. I guess you would want to showcase your best talent at the marquee event of the year. Current talent that is. But those names have bigger draws, blah blah blah.

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Come on, I do not want to see Lesnar/HHH 2
Nope. Didnt care for the first one either. HHH should stay behind the scenes. Lesnar, especially if they re-sign him, should have a match that actually means something. More Lesnar would be a good thing right now, IMO.

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I'm dreading Cena/Rock 3 at 29, if they have Punk drop the title to Rock, which would be bullshit. I don't give a shit if you're The Rock, Stone Cold, Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, or any great, you shouldn't just fucking waltz in when you feel like and get the title.


As far as Mania 29 is concerned though, as long as Lesnar/Helmsley, or Taker/(Let's say Kane for now), doesn't hold main event over the WWE Championship match. Give that belt the spot it deserves.
If this happens, I will quit watching WWE and be a TNA fan for life, period. even more so now that Punk's title reign is being brought to the forefront every week. Hopefully The Shield will save us all from injustice


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I would actually like to see Lesnar/Bryan in a wrestling match. After the Goldberg fiasco at WMXX, personally I'm not excited in seeing him in a 'brawling' style of bout. That's just my opinion there though.
That COULD indeed work! With Bryan being more of an actual wrestler, and Lesnar holding on to his "MMA look" (and work) it could be one helluva contest. Book it!
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Didn't Kurt Angle do something like that?
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Austin needs to be lured out of retirement by Punk or Sting has to finally face Undertaker..... It's the only big shot names left that would do anything.....
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What is the allure with Sting v Undertaker?? I don't see it honestly, and feel like it would be a "meh" match at best.
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What is the allure with Sting v Undertaker?? I don't see it honestly, and feel like it would be a "meh" match at best.
I'd rather see Sting vs Kane. In the first ever apply your gimmick to the other rassler match. The only way to win is for Sting to paint Kane's face and Kane has to put the mask and wig on Sting. Or an ERAG match. Either would be bitchin'.
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And Austin seems to talk more and more (especially recently) that he has another good one left in him. Austin v Punk would be great for sure, especially the build and the promos on one another. That needs to happen.
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I don't mind a HHH/Lesnar II match at all, I enjoyed the first one. I really want to see Taker Vs. Punk with the title on the line.
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Am i the only one who wants to see Lesnar / Ryback, with Ryback going through the toughest brawl he's ever had, eventually picking up the win?

Even if you take out the Win/Loss, a bout with Lesnar further legitimizes Ryback as the ass-kicking machine that he's projected to be.

Post Mania becomes easier as well. If Lesnar is staying with the company, then the feud goes on a bit longer, possibly ending with a gimmick match (perhaps an Ambulance / Last Man Standing).

The greater angle would be to reveal the Shield as Heyman Guys, and tie in the loose ends with Punk, and add Lesnar to the fold eventually.
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Punk/Lesnar is already built in. Heyman betrays Punk at Elimination Chamber or something with a surprise Brock returning to beat down the Champ after he retains the belt. How easy is that to book?
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Punk/Lesnar is already built in. Heyman betrays Punk at Elimination Chamber or something with a surprise Brock returning to beat down the Champ after he retains the belt. How easy is that to book?
Maybe that's what the big surprise angle is going to be after Raw next week? Lesnar returns and kills Punk, Punk drops the belt and gets it back at the EC.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:23 AM   #27
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I'm looking forward to Lesnar vs HHH. Their last match was great.

I'm guessing WM will be

Punk vs Sheamus for the belt
Rock vs Cena
HHH vs Lesnar
Ryback vs Big Show for the belt

I don't see Taker returning.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:51 AM   #28
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I'm looking forward to Lesnar vs HHH. Their last match was great.

I'm guessing WM will be

Punk vs Sheamus for the belt
Rock vs Cena
HHH vs Lesnar
Ryback vs Big Show for the belt

I don't see Taker returning.
No way Taker doesn't come back.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:38 AM   #29
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That takes away Punk/Rock though. Dunno.
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That takes away Punk/Rock though. Dunno.
Lesnar could screw Punk at the Royal Rumble.
Lesnar vs Punk at Mania.
Rock vs Rumble Winner at Mania.
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Even the Rock can't make Punk draw ratings.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:31 AM   #32
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Going off my idea I meant.
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With Brock screwing Punk on Raw
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