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Old 04-09-2013, 11:38 PM   #1
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What the hell is going on with Antonio Cesaro?

He was in straight beast mode for months, and now he's jobbing all over the place. As the United States champion, no less. He wasn't on Wrestlemania. He wasn't on Raw. What's the deal? Is there something I don't know about? What did he do to deserve this de-push?


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Old 04-09-2013, 11:42 PM   #2
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News sites reporting Vince McMahon is not high on Cesaro which could explain his Kofi Kingston like de-push.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:43 PM   #3
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A bad run after a push usually means something even bigger is coming up.

Who knows? I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's not that bad. He's still US Champion.
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A bad run after a push usually means something even bigger is coming up.

Who knows? I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's not that bad. He's still US Champion.
Tell that to Kofi...and 3MB...
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Somehow, this came off to me as you shitting on Cesaro.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:30 AM   #7
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Somehow, this came off to me as you shitting on Cesaro.
Right now he is. His mic skills are holding him back and with his size he's the type that Vince would like.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:46 PM   #8
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He's got to show he's more than just the overplayed and typical heel foreigner who is anti-USA.

Somehow, he's got to prove he's got the charisma necessary in order to achieve more and go beyond his current status. He's got to take the necessary steps in order to kinda re-invent himself. If the don't open the door for you, bring it down.

Vince McMahon wasn't a fan of CM Punk's once upon a time, but things kinda turned out alright.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:58 PM   #9
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He's not really supposed to step outside of the gimmick they gave him, is he?

I love his ring work. Did he ever show charisma as Claudio Castagnoli? Does he have it in him? I never saw.
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I don't know, man.

I'm just a positive dude.

"Optimistic" is my middle name.

Half-empty? Half-full, baby!
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I don't know, man.

I'm just a positive dude.

"Optimistic" is my middle name.

Half-empty? Half-full, baby!
I was optimistic when he was being pushed to the moon and being competitive with the top dogs. When he's not booked on the main show and they didn't even have him on Raw the next night (3MB, Truth, Santino, and Ryder all found their way onto the show), it makes me worry a bit as a realist.
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yes, yes he did. as the most money making man he had plenty of charisma. his whole "aaayyyyyy!" shtick was beautiful. still think he has charisma now, he's just saddled with a generic gimmick. and on top of that, he can literally work with any size guy to perfection. so why not push him?
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yes, yes he did. as the most money making man he had plenty of charisma. his whole "aaayyyyyy!" shtick was beautiful. still think he has charisma now, he's just saddled with a generic gimmick. and on top of that, he can literally work with any size guy to perfection. so why not push him?
He has horrific mic skills though
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Well, Dolph was on quite the losing streak.

We'll see.
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At least Dolph was on TV. And at Wrestlemania.
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they are definitely not horrific. great? of course not. but that's part of his charm. it's not like you can't understand him. and it's not like he'll get any worse.
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if that's your only reason for not pushing the guy, it's really weak.
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Mic skills mean more than wrestling skills, so not really.
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Workrate means more than mic skills home skillet
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i wish i had as narrow a view of wrestling as you geniuses.
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Mic skills is a pretty large aspect to lack for a main eventer.
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Mic skills is a pretty large aspect to lack for a main eventer.
But Gertner says Ryback is main event material. Has he ever cut a great promo?
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But Gertner says Ryback is main event material. Has he ever cut a great promo?
With Ryback's look all he has to be is average. Cesaro isn't even that.
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What about Andre the Giant or Yokozuna? They were crap on the mic but they got huge pushes. Maybe b/c they were above average weight??
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What about Andre the Giant or Yokozuna? They were crap on the mic but they got huge pushes. Maybe b/c they were above average weight??
To be fair, Andre pre-dated television and was THE draw back in the territory days when seeing a man of that size was usually something left to Ringling Bros and the circus crowd. And in that venue you'd just see them do feets of strength, not actually beat the shit out of 2-3 other guys. There was no push needed. He set attendance records just for the chance to see him compete in person. If he'd started out in this era of television where you can flip the channel and see a 7 footer or a 400 lber in a variety of venues, well see The Great Khali.

People are kinda desensitized to the awe of it nowdays.

Edit: took out big show because he's got charisma and mic work when they give him the right angle.
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Perhaps wwe was seeing how he would react given a shit yodeling gimmick, and being jobbed out every week. Seems like they are going a different route with him now since he has seemingly taken this recent downfall in stride. Unless of course this leads to him getting destroyed by someone high profile
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He gets the crowd to chant louder than anyone else. If the crowd is into it then I have to say yes.
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I bet Monday's crowd would have gone nuts for Cesaro.

....maybe that's why he wasn't booked.
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Jeff Hardy has shit mic skills and he was/is a main eventer. What got him over? Oh yeah, what he can do in the ring.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:07 AM   #31
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Jeff Hardy has shit mic skills and he was/is a main eventer. What got him over? Oh yeah, what he can do in the ring.
Jeff Hardy was also a once in a generation performer and was hugely over with women.
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Jeff Hardy was also a once in a generation performer and was hugely over with women.
So there are other factors. I get that. You guys keep talking about his poor mic skills like that's what's holding him back. For one, there are ways around that, and for two, they're not even that bad.

You say he's boring, and it sounds like that's due to mic work for you. You can't shit on what he does in the ring. He's easily one of the most impressive and astute workers on the roster. Why do you feel the need to shit on him?
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So there are other factors. I get that. You guys keep talking about his poor mic skills like that's what's holding him back. For one, there are ways around that, and for two, they're not even that bad.

You say he's boring, and it sounds like that's due to mic work for you. You can't shit on what he does in the ring. He's easily one of the most impressive and astute workers on the roster. Why do you feel the need to shit on him?
So is Charlie Haas. Put the belt on him.
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So is Charlie Haas. Put the belt on him.
who said to put the belt on him? assuming you mean THE belt.
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Basing it off the past 6 months really. Monday was not a promo for Ryback really. Has he ever cut a amazing one? Naw. But he keeps the crowd interested and that is what will, partly, propel him. Everyone sleeps when Cesaro gets on the mic.
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If Cesaro would have hit Cena with the Neutralizer on Monday, he would've outpopped DX.
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If Cesaro would have hit Cena with the Neutralizer on Monday, he would've outpopped DX.
That crowd was literally a once in a decade crowd.
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That crowd was literally a once in a decade crowd.
I understand that. My point was that anybody could have gotten Ryback's reation last night.
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Look at the journey Jeff took to get into the main event too.
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