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Old 06-21-2013, 03:04 PM   #1
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Gash or Gold - CSL Judges Your Favorite Wrestling Moments, Matches, and Memories!
It is quite simple. Post in this thread some of your favorite matches, moments, and memories. TPWW Icon, CSL, will then judge those moments and give them a rating of either GASH (aka dogshit) or GOLD (aka Triple H's Indian Deathlock).

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Moments
Triple H returns at MSG - 2001
Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002

Matches
Triple H vs Ric Flair (Late 2005 feud)

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Crowbar winning the WCW Hardcore Championship (2000?)




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Old 06-21-2013, 03:07 PM   #2
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:13 PM   #3
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Yes. CSL is a man of the people and will pleasure us with his opinions.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:18 PM   #4
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Shawn Michaels v. The British Bulldog for the Intercontinental title @ SNME in 1992

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Hawk falls off the Titan Tron

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Earthquake kills Damien
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:30 PM   #5
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I dont understand what is different in Moment and Memory...
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:23 PM   #6
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I dont understand what is different in Moment and Memory...
Moment - Something you vividly remember and the time/place
Memory - Something you remember, but it might be a bit foggy or you're off on specific date/time/event/etc.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:31 PM   #7
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Match - Elimination Chamber, Summerslam 2003 (Goldberg Smash!)

Moment - Jake Roberts returns to Raw (7:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthYkUWseEI
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Old 06-22-2013, 10:02 AM   #8
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Elimination Chamber, Summerslam 2003 (Goldberg Smash!)
solid GOLD right here. First time Goldberg was really booked to his strengths on a big scale in WWE and it showed, built towards his entry into the match and when it happened, the crowd ate up every second of it. Few guys ever have been capable of drawing that kind of reaction by doing a few moves and looking at the crowd and old Billy showed he was one of them right here. Gotta credit Triple H and Flair as well, the cowardly heel stuff and Goldberg getting them anyway was the perfect payoff. They made a mistake not putting the belt on him however, was definitely "the right time" as opposed to a month later.

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Jake Roberts returns to Raw (7:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthYkUWseEI
have to say GOLD just for the spectacle of Jake being on TV, the reaction he got, how much it clearly meant to him etc. Unfortunately he looked like he'd been dragged to the show backwards, promo wasn't up to "Jake standards" but I'd rather it have happened than not, it accomplished what is was supposed to.
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lol CSL will never judge everything posted.
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:19 PM   #10
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going to do it now just to PROVE YOU WRONG
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:16 AM   #11
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going to do it now just to PROVE YOU WRONG
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:17 PM   #13
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:24 PM   #14
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:56 PM   #15
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Triple H returns at MSG - 2001
GOLD. Homeboy was the best wrestler on earth from pretty much the moment Austin had his surgery onwards, probably hasn't been a more credible heel world champion since with mayyybe the exception of Brock. Deserved every bit of the reaction he got.

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Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002
G-onna need a video of this. If not, it's Flair cutting a promo so it's probably GOLD.

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Triple H vs Ric Flair (Late 2005 feud)
only one I remember off the top of my head is the PPV cage match. In which case it's gotta be GOLD. Always enjoyed Triple H and Flair against each other, simple matches with simple stories that pull the crowd in, perfect timing, Trips always going out of his way to make Flair look good and Flair being Flair. Flair went over clean and decisively (by cage match standards) in the one I'm thinking of too, which was a nice surprise.

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Crowbar winning the WCW Hardcore Championship
don't recall the specific match/finish etc, my brain has probably blocked a lot of WCW from around that time out as self preservation. But Crowbar was meh, Reno was meh (except Roll the Dice, which was immense) so I guess I'd have to go GASH.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:05 PM   #16
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God, I loved this whole one-night storyline. Austin forced HHH to defend the title against a former world champion of his choice. HHH picks Flair and expects him to lay down. They have HBK and others talk to him. Flair then cuts this epic promo on HHH saying he is getting Flair's best tonight. Then, they put on an awesome match where I seriously thought Ric Flair was going to once again become the heavyweight champion of the world.
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Seriously, Jim Ross being at his best and the storyline and the emotion of the whole night gets my heart racing just thinking about it. I still think they probably should have given Flair the belt that night.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:46 PM   #19
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Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002
I enjoyed the promo. It's not quite "classic Flair" but it's better than most. GOLD.

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Shawn Michaels v. The British Bulldog for the Intercontinental title @ SNME in 1992
beyond GOLD. Was a huge HBK fan from almost day one (obligatory "worship Hogan" phase)/started to really favour the heels just as HBK was getting that initial singles push. Remember reading about it in WWF magazine whilst standing in a shop and being happy as a bastard. "Enjoyable match", creative finish that advanced/didn't harm either guy.

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Hawk falls off the Titan Tron
probably have to say GASH. As daft and sometimes entertaining the "Hawk being pissed up" stuff was, after seeing the Road Warriors doc piece and knowing he was going through a really shit time whilst doing it/it being a bit too close to home and then his death being an indirect result of his "demons", it's just a bit ugly. That and Droz was a bit shit.

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Earthquake kills Damien
what's not to love about this? Ridiculous looking 400lb heel fatty in an old school-cut singlet (and no kneepads) does that daft "Earthquake bouncing around the ring" gimmick before squashing a blokes pet snake whilst everybody plays it dead serious. And the kids ate it all up. It's glorious, it's the original "Bossman feeds Al Snow his dog". GOLD.
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Ric Flair vs Mr Perfect - Monday Night Raw Loser Retires

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Match - Sting and Flair vs Muta and Funk in the Thunderdome - Still my all time favorite.

Moment - Buff Bagwell punches another in a long line of fake stings, only to have it be real sting. He then Drops Bagwell, takes of the Sting mask to reveal face paint, and clears the ring.

Memory - Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.
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Memory - Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.

It's on the ECW - Extreme Evolution dvd

Eliminators VS Terry Gordy & Steve Williams.
(This was possibly the weakest match on this DVD but it has it's moments as Saturn does a great elbow drop from a board near the ceiling used in scaffold matches.Also Dr Death Steve Williams gets powerbombed on the concrete floor.The match is from High Incident in October 1996)***
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It's on the ECW - Extreme Evolution dvd

Eliminators VS Terry Gordy & Steve Williams.
(This was possibly the weakest match on this DVD but it has it's moments as Saturn does a great elbow drop from a board near the ceiling used in scaffold matches.Also Dr Death Steve Williams gets powerbombed on the concrete floor.The match is from High Incident in October 1996)***
Thats sounds right. Its often in many highlight films on ECW but just that moment sticks with me, nothing else about the match.
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Sting and Flair vs Muta and Funk in the Thunderdome - Still my all time favorite.
I havenae seen this I would almost guarantee GOLD by the guys in it but not checking it out first would have been a GASH move

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Buff Bagwell punches another in a long line of fake stings, only to have it be real sting. He then Drops Bagwell, takes of the Sting mask to reveal face paint, and clears the ring.
glorious GOLD. The Buff strut gimmick with Sting no-selling the punch/waiting for him to finish before the reverse DDT was a great visual.

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Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.
it's not bad. Given the choice between GASH or GOLD, I'd have to lean towards GOLD because it was admittedly "PrettyCool"/Iop but I didn't really enjoy the "sit down, shuffle a bit, lower yourself a bit" etc just because it's like, dude is supposed to not care about his body but that stuff screams the opposite (I obviously understand why he did it) New Jack would have just fucking gone for it
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completely missed this

going to go with GASH. In spite of some incredible matches, he was blandblandbland when he first showed up. This said, he did have a spectacular few weeks, starting with the "hinting at a return to Bryan Danielson", his mini-feud with Michael Cole, complete with a great promo, a really believable intense segment where he kicked the shit out of him, Cole playing the heel foil etc (all GOLD) and of course culminating with the infamous debut of Nexus. And then he was promptly fired. After that it was pretty much a bunch of good to great matches and absolutely nothing else, even being outshone by Derrick Bateman in their segments together. tbf this stuff would have been fine for most people plodding along in the WWE midcard but we saw what was to come.

From the second they started that slow build douchey OTT heel turn with him and tapping into solid GOLD with the Yes! stuff, he's been absolute dynamite and has exceeded surely even the most hardcore slobbering mutant of an ROH fan's expectations and is now one of the must-see acts in all of pro wrestling and for once, it's not just because of the quality of his matches. Compare that to his first "definition of vanilla midget" year-18 months, it's a shocking (and hugely welcome) transformation.
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match: 10 Man Tag Team match at Canadian Stampede '97. So much energy, so much story, just awesome.

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Moment: Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.

Not a fan of Bret Hart but for whatever reason he is included in 2 of these
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Moment: Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.

Not a fan of Bret Hart but for whatever reason he is included in 2 of these
Was it Marc Mero or Scott Putski?
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Was it Marc Mero or Scott Putski?
You may be right. For some reason I was thinking it was the "Wildman"
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10 Man Tag Team match at Canadian Stampede '97. So much energy, so much story, just awesome.
GOLD. For all of the obvious blatant reasons that have been spoken of for 17 years now. That said, didn't enjoy the finish. But I think that's more to do with the directing of the show as opposed to the actual finish.

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Bret Harts profanity laced tirade on Raw after losing the title to Sid.
not sure which one you mean. The cage match one when he shoves Vince?

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Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.
don't recall this (and apparently it turns out it was Scott Putski) but I have no desire to see it, guys getting injured or even generally taking awkward looking bumps makes me cringe. Even if I knew what you meant and watched the match again, I'd turn away when that part came about. Definite GASH.
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not sure which one you mean. The cage match one when he shoves Vince?


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GOLD. Amazing launch pad for Michaels as a singles guy (and who knows, could have been great for Marty if he wasn't so "Marty") the fact people still reference and talk about it 21 years later says it all.


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Ric Flair vs Mr Perfect - Monday Night Raw Loser Retires
I was never as big of a fan of this as anybody else. Love Flair, love Perfect, just feels like a really underwhelming exit for Flair and nothing was built on it for Hennig. But it was a different time back then, no PPV really close enough to build towards (I believe Flair wanted out asap so Mania was probs out of the question) The competitors and match itself definitely place it on the side of GOLD but it's not as overwhelming as anything involving these two should be.

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GOLD. If only for Hogan's twitchy leg sell. Not to mention the kids eating it up and those poor bastards that sent Hogan get well cards still receiving WWE catalogues in the mail. And the blow off match at Summerslam provided us with Hogan tearing Earl Hebner's shirt to pieces mid-match. That was different.
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I believe it was Scott Putski in a match with Brian Christopher at some PPV somewhere. In Your House or something.
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Ground Zero, turns out. The second clip here is a BRIEF shot of it.
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That's it! Thanks, ABT. Still cringeworthy
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