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Old 07-25-2004, 09:04 PM   #1
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Tyson vs Williams
Who do you think is going to win?
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Old 07-25-2004, 09:22 PM   #2
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I think Tyson will win, but there's no way I'm paying £15 to watch him on ppv
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Old 07-25-2004, 11:30 PM   #6
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I don't know who this Williams guy is but I say if he has good enough reach on Tyson he lays the whuppin to him.
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Old 07-26-2004, 12:07 AM   #7
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Old 07-26-2004, 11:54 AM   #8
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20 bucks says tyson shows up drunk..make him look even more pitful than he already is.
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Old 07-26-2004, 01:41 PM   #10
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It is a mis-match. Tyson will knock him out inside 2 rounds.
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Old 07-26-2004, 03:53 PM   #12
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It is a mis-match. Tyson will knock him out inside 2 rounds.
No it's not. Tyson hasn't fought in 2 years since having Lennox Lewis hand his arse to him. Danny Williams probably has more potential than anyone I have ever seen in this sport but he doesn't have the motivation to live up to it. Ever since I saw Danny Williams separated his right shoulder and not only fought on but knocked his opponent out fighting left handed all night, I had so much respect for him. The man definately has heart. Tyson is definately still the superior fighter and the favourite. I think he'll win but I think Williams will at least take it to him unlike all these other jabroni's who fall at the first sight of a punch.
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Old 07-26-2004, 02:25 PM   #13
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Old 07-26-2004, 03:58 PM   #15
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Seriously, Tyson will win, but Rob put it best. Will be a good fight.
 
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That would be awesome.... Stone Cold vs Mike Tyson.

BUT!

Tyson is a freak show, who I will root for so I can see more of his fights. Its not like Im paying to see him.
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Tyson.

p.s. I don't care what anyone else says, but the mid-late 80's version of Tyson would have KILLED Lennox Lewis.

With the exception of Ali and Fraizer, 80's Tyson was the greatest boxer of all-time. Hands down.
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Old 07-27-2004, 03:46 PM   #18
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Tyson.

p.s. I don't care what anyone else says, but the mid-late 80's version of Tyson would have KILLED Lennox Lewis.

With the exception of Ali and Fraizer, 80's Tyson was the greatest boxer of all-time. Hands down.
Good job nobody cares what you think and Lennox smashed that joke into the floor.
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Good job nobody cares what you think and Lennox smashed that joke into the floor.
Tyson was WAY past his prime when he fought Lewis. He was fat, out of shape, and had been drugged a few days earlier (if I recall correctly, he was taking some very heavy anti-depressant pills).


I'll admit - even the 1996 version of Mike Tyson (Tyson/Holyfield part I) would still have lost to Lennonx Lewis.


The Mike Tyson that I'm talking about, is the pre 1991 Mike Tyson. The Mike Tyson that was SENSATIONAL during the mid/late 80's. The Mike Tyson that completely dessminated Mike Spinks.

THAT Mike Tyson was the greatest of all-time.....with the exception of Ali and maybe Frazier.


Not to take anything away from Lennox Lewis, but Lennox Lewis (in his prime) would not be able to even lace the boots of Mike Tyson (in his prime).

A combo-oriented, not-one-punch-obsessed, super fit (mentally and physically) Tyson would've beaten Lewis even worse than when your father beats you. I'd say 3 rounds tops.
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Old 07-28-2004, 07:09 PM   #20
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The heavyweight division in boxing is VERY weak, so it is definately possible for Tyson to once again become champ.

I agree with Heyman about all his points on Tyson. Even a Tyson (way passed his prime) could beat any top contender in the heavyweight division. In addition, there is still interest in the guy. He adds the element of intrigue, and that means more buys.
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Even a Tyson (way passed his prime) could beat any top contender in the heavyweight division.
No. I am NOT saying that. Tyson is no longer anywhere near the best in the world. I'm not sure who the 'top guys' are right now, but Tyson ain't one them......anymore. Tyson can still beat the 'average' guys of today, but he'll get smoked by the top ones.


I do however - believe that the pre-1991 Tyson would have DESTROYED everyone.....including Lennox Lewis.
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Who cares about this fight really?

Tyson will never be the boxer he once was. methinks he's just fighting to get some money to pay off some debts.

It's not even worth watching, free or not.
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Who cares about this fight really?

Tyson will never be the boxer he once was. methinks he's just fighting to get some money to pay off some debts.

It's not even worth watching, free or not.

You're right about the fact that Tyson will never be the boxer that he once was, but Tyson will always be a draw IMO. It's impossible to ignore 'car wrecks', and Tyson is no different.

My bet is that YOU will end up watching it if you get a good chance to.
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Friday night. Tyson should win. I'd say middle of the fight if Williams doesn't freeze. Williams isn't a huge underdog though (well from those who have seen him fight and know his history).
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i want williams to win as ive not been a tyson fan since he beat bruno.

his wont happen and tyson will win by K.O within 4 rounds if that.
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Tyson is a shadow of his former self and looks like he has lost his killer instinct. However, they say the last thing a boxer loses is his punching power. If Williams avoids being tagged with those huge hooks, he has a chance. However, U.S judges blatantly don't like "boxers" since they always seem to lose fights on points when they fight behind jabs.
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Tyson is a shadow of his former self and looks like he has lost his killer instinct. However, they say the last thing a boxer loses is his punching power. If Williams avoids being tagged with those huge hooks, he has a chance. However, U.S judges blatantly don't like "boxers" since they always seem to lose fights on points when they fight behind jabs.
Couldn't have been more right! After Williams got tagged with huge blows in the 1st, he survived and took it right to Tyson landing his own huge shots. The referee was absolutely pathetic. Just as bad as the ref for the Sven Ottke vs. Robin Reid fight. 2pts taken from Williams in the 2nd because he refused to be bullied by Tyson.

I said it when Lewis smashed him and again last night, there ain't no way some pussy from New York can beat up a man from London!


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Heard a "theory"

Somebody said Tyson was killing the guy in the 1st 2 rounds, then it looked like he slowed up and let the other guy win? I dunno, the details seem pretty cloudy so who knows. Tyson was like 9-1 wasn't he? Or maybe 7-1...he probably bet againest himself hahahah
What is it with people making excuses for Tyson. The guy was in great shape, you could see his power and sharpness was there. His problem is what I have consistantly said about him for years - He can't box. He has only one game plan and when those huge blows fail, he has nothing. After Williams got rocked in the 1st, he took every single shot Tyson had to offer and stood there. Tyson even looked at him when he had Williams in the corner and Williams refused to take the abuse as to say "What the fuck? You shouldn't be doing this to me!".

Tyson isn't the fighter from yesteryear but he should still be in the best out there in a poor heavyweight division. The way the referee and the media acted, it looked like they blatantly wanted to work this fight. Unfortunately, to work a fight, the person who is doing the job is meant to know and I guess Danny Williams wasn't told.
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You're right about the fact that Tyson will never be the boxer that he once was, but Tyson will always be a draw IMO. It's impossible to ignore 'car wrecks', and Tyson is no different.

My bet is that YOU will end up watching it if you get a good chance to.

Gotta agree with that, his outside ring behavior alone just causes a draw in any arena no matter who he's gonna fight. And he is gonna win right now.
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It would be funny thought if boxing is just as fake as wrestling. And Tyson was just brought back to put over Williams.
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Heard Tyson got knocked out

Tyson has really fallen off these last few years

Its too bad, he was ridiculous back in his prime.
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Heard a "theory"

Somebody said Tyson was killing the guy in the 1st 2 rounds, then it looked like he slowed up and let the other guy win? I dunno, the details seem pretty cloudy so who knows. Tyson was like 9-1 wasn't he? Or maybe 7-1...he probably bet againest himself hahahah
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I heard some bookie offered 2000-1 odds for tyson to get knocked out by the fifth round that guy alone could have paid off tyson debt on that.
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I think Williams will win... What? it's over? huh, in that case.

HAVE IT TYSON.
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:35 PM   #38
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heard he ended up tearing his knee up in the first round, gotta give the guy props for fighting with that, when I tore my knee I could hardly move.
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Old 07-31-2004, 03:10 PM   #39
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heard he ended up tearing his knee up in the first round, gotta give the guy props for fighting with that, when I tore my knee I could hardly move.
Trust me, he tore nothing. There was nothing wrong with knee and his movement was fine until he hit the floor. He got up after it and walked away. 10 minutes later there are all these excuses about knees. The dodgy referee couldn't save Tyson. Three Kentucky judges never got the chance to save him and his corner couldn't save him. The best man won and that is that.


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Tyson or Williams?
The fact you even have to ask says how much bullshit that excuse is.
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Old 08-01-2004, 06:26 PM   #40
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Trust me, he tore nothing. There was nothing wrong with knee and his movement was fine until he hit the floor.
Wow Rob. Your ability to be so objective is uncanny!

You should stick to wrestling where you actually have some clue as to what you're talking about. Don't forget to masturbate to your Lennox Lewis and Dave Meltzer posters while you're at it.

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