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View Poll Results: Who is the American League's best pitcher?
Rodrigo Lopez, RHP, Baltimore 1 2.50%
Pedro Martinez, RHP, Boston 2 5.00%
Mark Mulder, LHP, Oakland 0 0%
Mariano Rivera, RHP, New York 1 2.50%
Johan Santana, LHP, Minnesota 28 70.00%
Curt Schilling, RHP, Boston 8 20.00%
Jake Westbrook, RHP, Cleveland 0 0%
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Old 09-30-2004, 10:15 PM   #1
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Old 09-30-2004, 10:36 PM   #2
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Mmmm...I choose Darryl May...

Its funny because Johan wasn't even an all-star. His first half wasn't all star caliber and he still ended up with 20 wins, sub 2 era, 300+ K's, sub 200 opp batting ave. Damn. Just don't choke in the playoffs.
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Old 09-30-2004, 10:39 PM   #3
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Santana. Done. Enough said.
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Old 10-01-2004, 03:09 AM   #4
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Old 09-30-2004, 11:31 PM   #5
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I guess the fact that Hentgan didn't play in the second half got him disqualified eh?
 
Old 10-01-2004, 12:38 AM   #6
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Santana with Schilling in 2nd Mulder in 3rd
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Lol, somebody voted for Pedro
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Old 10-01-2004, 01:06 AM   #8
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Definitely has to be Santana. No question about it.
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Old 10-01-2004, 01:31 AM   #9
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Went Schill on this... touch call, Santana has has a great year... best 2nd half of any pitcher better... but was watching a breakdown of teams faced, as the Sox faced better teams then Minnesota...

How it broke down for each player I didn't see, but I can look into later.
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Old 10-02-2004, 02:32 PM   #12
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Went Schill on this... touch call, Santana has has a great year... best 2nd half of any pitcher better... but was watching a breakdown of teams faced, as the Sox faced better teams then Minnesota...

How it broke down for each player I didn't see, but I can look into later.
How about the stat that Curt Schilling gets almost 7 runs of support per start, by far and away the league's most
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Old 10-02-2004, 06:34 PM   #13
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How about the stat that Curt Schilling gets almost 7 runs of support per start, by far and away the league's most
Doesn't matter since I don't factor wins into the stats...

I factor what a pitcher controls, ERA, Hits, Walks, K's, pitching stats...

wins are nice, saying you have a 20 game winner is nice... But who would you rather have...

20-2 4.58 ERA
8-12 2.12 ERA

2nd guy just looks like a great pitcher on a bad team.
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Old 10-02-2004, 06:47 PM   #14
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Doesn't matter since I don't factor wins into the stats...

I factor what a pitcher controls, ERA, Hits, Walks, K's, pitching stats...

wins are nice, saying you have a 20 game winner is nice... But who would you rather have...

20-2 4.58 ERA
8-12 2.12 ERA

2nd guy just looks like a great pitcher on a bad team.
WTF? You'd take the second guy. 1st guy is a below average pitcher on an outstanding team, 2nd guy is an outstanding pitcher on a below average team. If I'm building a team I'd obviously rather have the second guy.

If the Twins and Red Sox flip flopped the runs they scored for Schilling and Santana, it'd be interesting to see the records. I can assure you Santana would have in the neighborhood of 10 more wins than Schilling.
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Old 10-01-2004, 11:19 AM   #15
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Still saying Santana, but Schilling is really been great down the stretch.
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Schilling had some of those random stats, like "Most wins coming off a Red Sox loss" and stuff..I dunno I read that in Gammons' column.

I still want to know who these guys voting for Pedro are?
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As a Red Sox fan I'd pick Schilling, but Santana deserves it more.
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As a Red Sox fan, I picked Santana.

You just can't argue. Any other year it would have been Curt's
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