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Old 05-03-2005, 08:35 PM   #1
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Wrestlers Shooting on Someone in the Ring
I read an article yesterday that Rico, who was working for All-Japan Pro Wrestling, has decided to retire after another wrestler decided to shoot on him in the ring. I was wondering if anyone else knows of any famous "shoots" during a match. I know Hardcore Holly knocked around Rene Dupree a couple of times but I cannot recall any major shoots in the modern era(back in the territory days shoots were more common) can any of you?
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Old 05-03-2005, 08:40 PM   #2
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Vince Russo shooting on Hulk Hogan at Bash at Bash at the Beach 2000 is probably the most memorable
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Sorry, I meant during a match instead of shoot interviews
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I read an article yesterday that Rico, who was working for All-Japan Pro Wrestling, has decided to retire after another wrestler decided to shoot on him in the ring. I was wondering if anyone else knows of any famous "shoots" during a match. I know Hardcore Holly knocked around Rene Dupree a couple of times but I cannot recall any major shoots in the modern era(back in the territory days shoots were more common) can any of you?
Well, Holly got his arm broken because he tried to make Lesnar look bad...
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:52 PM   #5
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Well, Holly got his arm broken because he tried to make Lesnar look bad...
Holly broke his back against Lesnar. He broke his arm against Angle, dumb ass.

Eddie beat up a fan during a ladder match once, it was pretty sweet.
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I'm not sure it was a real shoot, but if yes, Holly shot Puder in the ass with a gun with a couple of chops.
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I read an article yesterday that Rico, who was working for All-Japan Pro Wrestling, has decided to retire after another wrestler decided to shoot on him in the ring. I was wondering if anyone else knows of any famous "shoots" during a match. I know Hardcore Holly knocked around Rene Dupree a couple of times but I cannot recall any major shoots in the modern era(back in the territory days shoots were more common) can any of you?
Regal shot on/stiffed Goldberg during Goldberg's winning streak.
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Regal shot on/stiffed Goldberg during Goldberg's winning streak.

Bruiser Brody did something simalar to Lex Luger. When Luger first broke in, in florida, he and Brody had a cage match. Brody no sold everything luger did. Flexy Lexy ran out of the cage, scared to death. I have a handheld copy of this its too funny.
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Bruiser Brody did something simalar to Lex Luger. When Luger first broke in, in florida, he and Brody had a cage match. Brody no sold everything luger did. Flexy Lexy ran out of the cage, scared to death. I have a handheld copy of this its too funny.
You seem to forget that Brody had razorblades taped to his hands and some serious murderous intent. Hell, I'd be scared too.
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You seem to forget that Brody had razorblades taped to his hands and some serious murderous intent. Hell, I'd be scared too.
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"murderous intent" is a little strong but point takin.
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The only real significant shoot that I can recall hearing about happened in 1905 when Frank Gotch hired a German wrestler to injure George Hackenschmidt before there match for the World Heavyweight Championship.

I think Lou Thesz and Ed Lewis were involved in some shoots during their reigns.
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yea, Regal. Hilllarious.

He was fired for that though
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Regal shot on Goldberg? Plz expand.
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Regal shot on Goldberg? Plz expand.
It was when Goldberg was in the middle of his streak or somewhere about that time. Anyway Regal was pissed that Goldberg was getting such a push and decided to go out and highlight Goldberg's weaknesses. So he went out and wrestled Goldberg and made him look pretty bad. Regal was then fired by WCW.
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i reckon a few chris benoit-kevin sullivan matches have been practically shoots
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I think he was supposed to be "teaching" Goldberg how to wrestle, and the match ran longer than it was supposed to and he was fired as soon as he passed through the curtain.
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Memmer when he almost broke A-Train's neck or some shit?
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I remember once Saturn was working with an indy guy [Mike Bell] on a fed show. Bell botched a spot, I think like a hiptoss or something, and Saturn flew off the handle and beat the shit out of him. I think he stiffed him a few times, slammed him on the floor, beat him down a bit more and then bashed him into the steps pretty hard [IIRC].

I remember Saturn getting suspended and shit for that.

And you also have to count some of the Brawl For All matches from the late '90's. A number of people got banged up during those things - since they were legit. Althought I would not really call them 'shoots', because technically they were just real bouts, whereas in wrestling a shoot is more of a real fight breaking out of a scheduled work.
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I remember once Saturn was working with an indy guy [Mike Bell] on a fed show. Bell botched a spot, I think like a hiptoss or something, and Saturn flew off the handle and beat the shit out of him. I think he stiffed him a few times, slammed him on the floor, beat him down a bit more and then bashed him into the steps pretty hard [IIRC].
This was the WWE Heat/Velocity/whatever show, right? Or was there another incident? because IIRC, Saturn in THAT incident was to blame, he fucked up and took it out on the other guy (Who was an indy fed jobber).
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This was the WWE Heat/Velocity/whatever show, right? Or was there another incident? because IIRC, Saturn in THAT incident was to blame, he fucked up and took it out on the other guy (Who was an indy fed jobber).
Yeah I believe so. My mistake then, Saturn was who fucked it up and Bell shit it out. Thanks
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Yeah I believe so. My mistake then, Saturn was who fucked it up and Bell shit it out. Thanks

Which is why he got stuck with the moppy gimmick correct?
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I remember once Saturn was working with an indy guy [Mike Bell] on a fed show. Bell botched a spot, I think like a hiptoss or something, and Saturn flew off the handle and beat the shit out of him. I think he stiffed him a few times, slammed him on the floor, beat him down a bit more and then bashed him into the steps pretty hard [IIRC].

I remember Saturn getting suspended and shit for that.
Yeah, pretty sure it was a hiptoss. Afterwards you could hear Perry scream "He dropped me on my fucking head!" or something to that effect to the ref. Then Perry just beat the shit out of the poor guy. I felt bad for him. Hell rookies make mistakes, the guy's nervousness was probably what caused the botch. As a wrestler I've learned that if a guy purposely stiffs you, stiff his ass back. But if a rookie accidentally botches a move you handle it in a professional manner not beat the living Hell out of the guy. I heard that the whole "Moppy" gimmick was Saturn's punishment for what he did to Mike Bell.
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Didn't Bubba Ray Dudley shoot on Triple H not too long ago? As I recall, Bubba dropped the guy right on his head during a tag match on Raw; can't remember if he purposely stiffed him or just screwed up.
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Holly broke/hurt his neck against Lesner. Dumb ass
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Holly broke/hurt his neck against Lesner. Dumb ass
Gotta love the irony of someone correcting my mistake with a mistake.
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Not really "shooting on someone" but

Jerry Lawler stiffed the shit out of Bret at Summerslam 93 when he whacked him with the septar. Bret said it felt like he broke every bone in his face or some shit.

So when it was time for Bret to put the sharpshooter on Lawler, he held him in it for like 7 minutes straight and Lawler couldn't even stand when he got to the back. He was crawlng around
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Not really "shooting on someone" but

Jerry Lawler stiffed the shit out of Bret at Summerslam 93 when he whacked him with the septar. Bret said it felt like he broke every bone in his face or some shit.

So when it was time for Bret to put the sharpshooter on Lawler, he held him in it for like 7 minutes straight and Lawler couldn't even stand when he got to the back. He was crawlng around
LOL. Never heard about that, but that's pretty hilarious. Eye for an eye, or in this case, legs, I guess.
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:38 AM   #34
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Not really "shooting on someone" but

Jerry Lawler stiffed the shit out of Bret at Summerslam 93 when he whacked him with the septar. Bret said it felt like he broke every bone in his face or some shit.

So when it was time for Bret to put the sharpshooter on Lawler, he held him in it for like 7 minutes straight and Lawler couldn't even stand when he got to the back. He was crawlng around
A similar thing happened to Owen Hart, as well. He was fighting Barry Horowitz, who had been in the WWF for years and lost every match he was in. Owen won the match by submission, but the referee reversed the decision and disqualified him as he wouldn't release the hold for like 5 minutes after the bell.

Owen's match looked like a worked finish from where I sit, but if I remember correctly, Bret won the SummerSlam 1993 match by submission and then had the decision reversed and got disqualified because he wouldn't release the hold. I had no idea this incident was a shoot - I thought it was the planned finish to the match.
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:54 AM   #35
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A similar thing happened to Owen Hart, as well. He was fighting Barry Horowitz, who had been in the WWF for years and lost every match he was in. Owen won the match by submission, but the referee reversed the decision and disqualified him as he wouldn't release the hold for like 5 minutes after the bell.

Owen's match looked like a worked finish from where I sit, but if I remember correctly, Bret won the SummerSlam 1993 match by submission and then had the decision reversed and got disqualified because he wouldn't release the hold. I had no idea this incident was a shoot - I thought it was the planned finish to the match.


That wasnt a shoot. They were working on that finish at house shows. I went to a house show a month before SummerSlam 93 and Hart faced Owen in the main event. Hart made Owen tap to the Sharpshooter and he didnt let it go. They kept fining him a 5,000 dollars over the loud speaker. Then they reversed the decision. Pretty much a work. Good stuff at the house show too. Best one i've ever been too.
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Not really "shooting on someone" but

Jerry Lawler stiffed the shit out of Bret at Summerslam 93 when he whacked him with the septar. Bret said it felt like he broke every bone in his face or some shit.

So when it was time for Bret to put the sharpshooter on Lawler, he held him in it for like 7 minutes straight and Lawler couldn't even stand when he got to the back. He was crawlng around
So Bret getting dqed was a shoot or was he supposed to hold it in for like 7 minutes but he just did it mad stiff?

I remember crying in that match because Bret got dqed
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So Bret getting dqed was a shoot or was he supposed to hold it in for like 7 minutes but he just did it mad stiff?

I remember crying in that match because Bret got dqed
Nah it was meant to go down like, I think Bret just held him tighter and longer than originally planned
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Tatanka was a heel and he faced someone. I forget. It was either Lex Luger or Tinto Santana maybe? Anways, Tatanka spit on my friend. Some douche was heckling the hell out of him and he spit in the crowd right on my friend. We were 2nd row from the ring.
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Tatanka was a heel and he faced someone. I forget. It was either Lex Luger or Tinto Santana maybe? Anways, Tatanka spit on my friend. Some douche was heckling the hell out of him and he spit in the crowd right on my friend. We were 2nd row from the ring.
And that's a shoot how?

There isn't really that much evidence of it in the states, in Japan however.......
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And that's a shoot how?

There isn't really that much evidence of it in the states, in Japan however.......

Not really a shoot. Just a memory of that specific house show .
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