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Old 03-06-2004, 08:21 PM   #1
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The Black Album
Every song is good. Best produced album in a long time.

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Old 03-06-2004, 08:25 PM   #2
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Yeah. Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven, Through the Never, Sad But True... great album.
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:27 PM   #3
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Yeah. Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters, The Unforgiven, Through the Never, Sad But True... great album.
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Best produced album in a long time?
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Truthfully, I think the production value on Phernology and Love Below were untouchable in recent memory.. Good album, but I've always been a Jay-Z fan so..

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Wait are we talking about a great album or an abomination released over 10 years later?
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:30 PM   #7
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Wait are we talking about a great album or an abomination released over 10 years later?
Let me guess, you're one of those "RAP SUCKS!!1!" guys..



It's funny, in all my years of being a music fan I've never heard a Hip Hop fan blindly talk shit about "rock".. With vice versa, you hear it often..

Weird..
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:15 PM   #8
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Let me guess, you're one of those "RAP SUCKS!!1!" guys..



It's funny, in all my years of being a music fan I've never heard a Hip Hop fan blindly talk shit about "rock".. With vice versa, you hear it often..

Weird..
You've never read Teletext on a the BBC then, some guy was saying that Rap takes a certain kind of mastery, where as Rock music is talentless, before saying that guitar's "practically play themselves"
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:29 AM   #9
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You've never read Teletext on a the BBC then, some guy was saying that Rap takes a certain kind of mastery, where as Rock music is talentless, before saying that guitar's "practically play themselves"
I saw that, it was by some guy called "G-Units Biggest Fan" or something. Anyway, that teletext music service pretty much sucks ass, the Channel 4 one is much better (p350). I have no idea what the people are talking about on their letters page, but at least its more intelligent.
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Old 03-07-2004, 12:06 PM   #10
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You've never read Teletext on a the BBC then, some guy was saying that Rap takes a certain kind of mastery, where as Rock music is talentless, before saying that guitar's "practically play themselves"
The closest he's prolly ever come to a guitar is sampling one...

I'm not gonna say that rap is easy to do, but I've produced beats and played instuments, and the latter is MUCH harder.

Having been in rock bands since I was 12, and having lived through the Tupac/MTV-craze that made rap part of pop culture, I can easily say that a TON of rap fan trash rock.
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:27 PM   #11
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Wait are we talking about a great album or an abomination released over 10 years later?
What's the great album written ten years before the Black Album?
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:38 PM   #12
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The black album is overproduced garbage. It has a few good songs [Through The Never is great], but the vocals suck, and the overall feel of the album was commercial.
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:41 PM   #13
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The album's not really overproduced.
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:43 PM   #14
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For a thrash metal band it is.
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If a thrash metal band is produced at all, it's called a miracle.

don't worry, they went back to their roots with ST Anger.
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Old 03-07-2004, 01:01 AM   #16
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If a thrash metal band is produced at all, it's called a miracle.

don't worry, they went back to their roots with ST Anger.
"These songs are long, and there are fast parts, so that automatically means that they're good"- St. Anger parody
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"These songs are long, and there are fast parts, so that automatically means that they're good"- St. Anger parody
That the one where the "Snare" drum is a folding chair?

I don't remember the lyrics, but that was funny as shit.
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Jay-Z's Black Album rules.
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Kill 'Em All was 83...
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Kill 'Em All was 83...
Sorry, thought we were talking great albums.
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The best thrash metal album production-wise is Testament's "The Legacy".
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As long as we're in a Metallica thread, you're going to be disappointed.
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...Yeah, as nothing involving Ulrich can actually be be considered great.
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...Yeah, as nothing involving Ulrich can actually be be considered great.
R U INSAN? LARZ ROOLZ FAGIT!

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Kill 'Em All was a good album, though.
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Master of Puppets is overrated garbage. Ride the Lightning was the beginning of their downfall. Justice wasn't even a thrash album, but it does have its moments [Shortest Straw].
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Master of Puppets is overrated garbage. Ride the Lightning was the beginning of their downfall. Justice wasn't even a thrash album, but it does have its moments [Shortest Straw].
Yea, verily, thou hast forgot thy Chapter and Verse, O Lord.
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You know what's a really overproduced album?

Frank Black--Dog in the sand.

Live to 4-track.
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Darkthrone's Transilvanian Hunger is overproduced. This is the equipment used to record Transilvanian Hunger:

Random four piece studio drumset
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One microphone [vocals and drums]
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Old 03-06-2004, 10:24 PM   #32
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Metallica probably put more work in producing St. Anger then every other album they have made. I don't think it's possible to sound that shitty after playing music for that long.
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Old 03-06-2004, 10:32 PM   #33
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Metallica probably put more work in producing St. Anger then every other album they have made. I don't think it's possible to sound that shitty after playing music for that long.
Yeah, I was just taking a shot because it's funny as Hell that something that was that "overproduced" could possibly sound that shitty.

Usually, when you overproduce something, you at least improve the sound...Even if the m,usic suffers as a result.
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Old 03-06-2004, 10:31 PM   #34
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Oh, right. St. Anger exists. Haha.
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Old 03-07-2004, 08:11 AM   #35
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Old 03-07-2004, 08:40 AM   #36
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Old 03-07-2004, 12:08 PM   #37
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Oh, come on...MOST overrated?

There's gotta be more overrated albums...

...Though I can't think of one...
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Old 03-07-2004, 03:20 PM   #38
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the black album is the fifth best metalica album, or the third worst, whichever.
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Old 03-07-2004, 03:30 PM   #39
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1 - Kill 'Em All
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i would've ranked puppets ahead of justice but that's just me. actually i'd rate the albums in the order they came out with kill em all being first and decreasing in order from there. with the black album, you can obviously tell the focus was shifting towards mainstream acceptance just by the fact they had only one video to show for their previous four albums to having released one every other song or so for the black album.
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