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Old 09-21-2009, 05:44 AM   #1
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Bodyguard for CM Punk?
The creative team has been pushing to give CM Punk a bodyguard. Ezekiel Jackson had been rumored for the role, but the feeling is that working on ECW is the better place to develop him. Another option is Festus. The angle would be that Punk either got him off of his medication to make him normal, or that he is feeding him pills to control him.

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Old 09-21-2009, 06:18 AM   #2
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

I like the idea, but Festus is not that man.

Makes sense with the Taker fued that he'd want protection
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Make knox his body guard maybe? He ain't doing much else.
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The idea sounds cheesy and cliche at first, but with Festus I think it could work with Michael Hayes and CM Punk's input. They just need to make sure they don't make Punk a hypocrite himself. If he's using pills to control Festus, then they'll need to try and make it as scientific as possible, and have Punk do it to "prove a point."

"You're all slave to your medication, just like Festus. Why aren't you cheering him? He's just like all of you now."

But that makes Festus really sympathetic. It's not like he'd be a heel under his own choice. Granted, that makes a face turn easier, but it'd just be messy. Unless Festus then decided under his own will power to take the pills, or whatever. The scenario where he takes him off the pills works. It "saves" Festus, which is more to Punk's natural character, and it allows Festus to actively become a heel and basically support Punk's cause.

This is also good for Slam Master J. If they acknowledge his past with Festus, then he can step up as a character, and feud with Festus, and maybe even have a few matches with CM Punk. I'm not saying Jesse Gordy should be the World Heavyweight Champion, or anything, but the fans might get behind him after a somewhat competitive showing with CM Punk, where he is fighting for his friend's honour. Although, does that make Jesse pro-pills? That's where you have to be careful.

I still like the idea of Kaval (Low Ki) being brought in as a bodyguard for Punk. He wouldn't be the tradition big man guard, but I don't think Punk fits traditional. He's the first CM Punk, and not the next Shawn Michaels. Kaval being brought in as a martial arts master and long-time friend of Punk's -- who has the discipline to avoid poisoning his body -- could really work. Kaval's got the sort of kicks that could make him believable as a hired gun for Punk.

Punk as World Heavyweight Champion while Kaval serves as Intercontinental Champion could be really cool. Hell, they could even have a brief reign as Unified WWE Tag Team Champions and really get their heat going. Punk with three belts would get the fans really pissed off. Maybe even throw in Curt Hawkins to their little posse as a follower of Punk's. A sheep to Punk's shepperd. There are better uses for Hawkins, though.

But Punk is also fine solo. He does have such good heat at the moment that he could really help develop either a young or new talent, though.
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The idea sounds cheesy and cliche at first, but with Festus I think it could work with Michael Hayes and CM Punk's input. They just need to make sure they don't make Punk a hypocrite himself. If he's using pills to control Festus, then they'll need to try and make it as scientific as possible, and have Punk do it to "prove a point."

"You're all slave to your medication, just like Festus. Why aren't you cheering him? He's just like all of you now."

But that makes Festus really sympathetic. It's not like he'd be a heel under his own choice. Granted, that makes a face turn easier, but it'd just be messy. Unless Festus then decided under his own will power to take the pills, or whatever. The scenario where he takes him off the pills works. It "saves" Festus, which is more to Punk's natural character, and it allows Festus to actively become a heel and basically support Punk's cause.

This is also good for Slam Master J. If they acknowledge his past with Festus, then he can step up as a character, and feud with Festus, and maybe even have a few matches with CM Punk. I'm not saying Jesse Gordy should be the World Heavyweight Champion, or anything, but the fans might get behind him after a somewhat competitive showing with CM Punk, where he is fighting for his friend's honour. Although, does that make Jesse pro-pills? That's where you have to be careful.

I still like the idea of Kaval (Low Ki) being brought in as a bodyguard for Punk. He wouldn't be the tradition big man guard, but I don't think Punk fits traditional. He's the first CM Punk, and not the next Shawn Michaels. Kaval being brought in as a martial arts master and long-time friend of Punk's -- who has the discipline to avoid poisoning his body -- could really work. Kaval's got the sort of kicks that could make him believable as a hired gun for Punk.

Punk as World Heavyweight Champion while Kaval serves as Intercontinental Champion could be really cool. Hell, they could even have a brief reign as Unified WWE Tag Team Champions and really get their heat going. Punk with three belts would get the fans really pissed off. Maybe even throw in Curt Hawkins to their little posse as a follower of Punk's. A sheep to Punk's shepperd. There are better uses for Hawkins, though.

But Punk is also fine solo. He does have such good heat at the moment that he could really help develop either a young or new talent, though.
everything you said makes perfect sense....... too bad the writers never go with 'perfect sense'
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:53 AM   #6
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Kane?
somehow I see this as being the logical answer. Since Punk is feuding with Taker it only makes since to bring in Kane as the bodyguard. It will give Kane a little push while keeping him heel. Plus Kane has nothing else to do since Khali is getting knees.
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And yes, Festus is young, great at playing a character, and does have more ring skills than a lot of guys his size do have. Just give him a last name (weren't he and Jesse going to be "The Daltons" for a while?), and he should be right.
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I do not want festus being punks bodyguard. Hell fuckin no.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:49 AM   #10
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Hmm. I kind of like this idea for Punk. Not sure why but I do.
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Hmm, "bodyguard" might be the wrong word. I'm thinking like a weapon. A hired dog more than anything. Well, I can imagine him showing up and kicking the living shit out of a confused Undertaker, while CM Punk then holds up the World Heavyweight Title while Kaval just does his intense posing.
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The delicious irony of Punk controlling Festus with prescription medicine sounds great now I think of it
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The delicious irony of Punk controlling Festus with prescription medicine sounds great now I think of it
Or they can have Punk get Festus to go off his medication (first they'd have to mention Festus being on medication without it being forced).

All they have to do is show someone giving Festus his medication. Punk sees it, goes on a rant about vices and drugs and somehow in wrestling world Festus listens and with the help of Punk he weans off his medication. Each week he can show more emotion and become a little more "normal". Eventually at a PPV or something (after not being on tv for a week or two tops) he can do some sort of run it. Or at least in the main event of a Smackdown.

WWE would fuck this up, but to make it somewhat realistic he'd have to wean off his medication because you can't really quit real medication cold turkey.

It would be great for Punk's character right now. Festus should get a slightly new look too. Maybe grow some kind of facial hair and wear nice clothes when he's not wrestling.
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It's one of those ideas that needs to be done in practice to see whether it works or not. And hey, if it doesn't, he can just GTS Festus to the curb, and talk about how "weak" he was.
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Surely they must have some other Generic Hosses in FCW.

Lance Hoyt?

What abotu Drew Macintyre?
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Lance Hoyt?

What abotu Drew Macintyre?
Hoyt wouldn't be bad.
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Lance Hoyt?

What abotu Drew Macintyre?
Vance Archer would actually be really good in the role. He's got the look of a security guy. And he doesn't completely dwarf Punk. I know Punk is not a big guy for professional wrestler standards, but so far in his career, size hasn't been a big factor for him. Getting a guy who completely out-classes Punk in size is a bit ridiculous, I think.

Someone around the 280lbs mark would be good.

But it's funny you brought up Drew McIntyre. I like the idea of McIntyre's sort of kayfabe past of being trained by Dave Taylor being brought up. They could bring up Punk's training with The Blue Bloods (which Matt Striker has acknowledged on ECW), and sort of pass off Punk and McIntyre as guys with a "shared past." Nigel McGuinness would also fit this role.

The more I think about it, the more I'm curious (Note: Not in complete support of) a faction based around CM Punk. You could have Punk, McGuinness, McIntyre and one of the other suggested names. Whether that be Vance Archer, Festus or Ezekiel Jackson (who now has William Regal as a kayfabe mentor).
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Anyways, if we're looking for candidates to bodyguard Punk, go with Mike Knox. It would actually fit into the whole "he likes to beat guys up for no reason" thing.
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Anyways, if we're looking for candidates to bodyguard Punk, go with Mike Knox. It would actually fit into the whole "he likes to beat guys up for no reason" thing.
Knox doesn't look like a 'roid head either, so it works on that level too.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:16 PM   #30
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That would actually work.
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Fuck, bring him and that other ROH guy in as Punk's security or something.
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Nigel doesn't look imposing enough.

This would need to be someone that looks like they could beat Takers ass.

Unless there's more than one bodyguard of course.
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:45 PM   #34
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Anyone who thinks a non-hoss can be a legit "bodyguard" in the WWE is retarded. They need to be treated as a legit threat. Size can add that dimension. if they are smaller than to be a threat means they are top notch fighters/wrestlers, at whioch point it makes you think "why isnt he just on his own and fighting punk for the title if he is so good"

The Raw Hoss allows the explanation that he can hurt the taker via size and strength, but is too raw to be a champion.
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:11 AM   #35
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Anyone who thinks a non-hoss can be a legit "bodyguard" in the WWE is retarded. They need to be treated as a legit threat. Size can add that dimension. if they are smaller than to be a threat means they are top notch fighters/wrestlers, at whioch point it makes you think "why isnt he just on his own and fighting punk for the title if he is so good"

The Raw Hoss allows the explanation that he can hurt the taker via size and strength, but is too raw to be a champion.
I disagree with this. I think that a smaller bodyguard with the expert wrestler/fighter tag could build intrigue to the eventual break-up between Punk and said "bodyguard." For example, if it was Kaval as Punk's hit-man, then when Punk loses the World Heavyweight Title, he can slap Kaval or something, which leads to Kaval kicking his head off. There is a feud between the two away from the title, that won't be mucked up by the big man/small man dynamic.

As for explaining the relationship? That is where things can get interesting, because it is something that is a bit out of the ordinary. A smaller guy could be doing it for money, out of some past debt to Punk, or because he actually believes in Punk's message. Take Paul Burchill for instance -- his character is not all that interested in championships. He just likes to hurt people. That sort of mentality could explain why someone could latch onto the World Heavyweight Champion without neccessarily wanting to kick their head off themselves.

I mean, why do Ezekiel Jackson and Vladimir Kozlov want to work for Regal? I guess they feel there is a lot they can learn from him. But given their size and power, they'd have to feel like they could potentially take down Regal at any given point if they wanted to. The whole concept of a "bodyguard" in wrestling is sort of contrary to the "everyone is out for themselves" rule.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:40 PM   #36
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I disagree with this. I think that a smaller bodyguard with the expert wrestler/fighter tag could build intrigue to the eventual break-up between Punk and said "bodyguard." For example, if it was Kaval as Punk's hit-man, then when Punk loses the World Heavyweight Title, he can slap Kaval or something, which leads to Kaval kicking his head off. There is a feud between the two away from the title, that won't be mucked up by the big man/small man dynamic.
What if instead of a massive man as his bodyguard, why not have punk lead a "straight edge" stable? Kinda like having a couple of generic muscle men and a heavier guy. He can kinda show that you dont have to be roided or drugged up to be a force. Then they can go against Batista....
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:08 PM   #37
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Did anybody say Batista yet? He'd be awesome in this role.
As if the whole point of Punk vs. Batista is NOT going to be steroids. That feud will be as easily written as Punk vs. Jeff.
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Old 09-21-2009, 01:27 PM   #39
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