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Old 01-07-2007, 07:35 AM   #41
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Anyway, from what I hear, Vladimir is pretty awful in the ring. He's been working matches with Val Venis on the house show circuit, and originally I heard they were terrible. That puts him below Viscera and Snitsky on the anticipated skill chart. Recently, reports have put him at "decent", though.

I wish it were Boris Alexiev getting the push. Not only is the guy actually somewhat ready to debut, but he's apparently very similar to Kurt Angle, who I have heard used to describe Vladimir Kozlov's character. So yeah, maybe the WWE could switch them and no one would notice?
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:21 AM   #42
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Pretty sure Kozlov is going to ECW, as he was quoted on WWE.com saying he could beat RVD or Lashley.
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:54 PM   #43
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Pretty sure Kurt Angle doesn't love double double E.
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Pretty sure Kurt Angle doesn't love double double E.
A lot of people don't love Double Double E.
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:11 PM   #45
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:05 AM   #46
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I love when he says "I can beat both of them.
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:24 AM   #48
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Pretty sure Kurt Angle doesn't love double double E.
I don't blame him.

But apparently he's going to be the tough-as-shit wrestler with the dorkish personality. Give it to Alexiev.
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Old 01-08-2007, 02:53 PM   #49
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Just so you know, he wrestled the dark match at NYR against Eugene. He came out saying "I love double double e! I will prove i'm the best fighter then all of the others and I will prove i'm better then your hero."
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Old 01-08-2007, 02:54 PM   #50
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He then destroyed Eugene. Did'nt look too bad but not great either.
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"I will prove I'm better than your hero"...

Isn't Eugene heel?
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Old 01-08-2007, 02:59 PM   #52
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Not in that match. Koslov was the heel.
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Oh, so tards are only heel unless going against huge stereotypical Russians?
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You forgot Rednecks, or is that hosses?
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:13 PM   #56
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Or are Rednecks faces more often? (Jimmy Wang Yang, Hillbilly Jim)
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:30 PM   #57
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Apparently he does a pretty sweet Shock Treatment-like move as a finisher. Do not be deceived, though. The WWE are going to push this guy way too hard out the gates, in my opinion.

I wouldn't mind it if they put the WWE Intercontinental Championship on him, or something, but apparently they are already planning on making him a main event heel.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:21 PM   #58
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It looked kind of like a Torture Rack Back Breaker.
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LMAO at when he says "I can beat both of them..." and then makes the face on the ECW one.
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ROFL the guy is like Borat. I would love to see him pushed as such.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:54 AM   #61
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:58 AM   #62
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Yeah, a Smirnov clone clone. Sweet.
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He seems promising. I like how he talks.

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"I coulds beat both of zem"
That line single handedly got him over with me, if his character is like that, I won't mind seeing him succeed in the midcard.
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Well, his character better be entertaining if he's as bad of a wrestler as I hear he is.
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A funny gimmick doesn't make a bad "wrestler" good, but it can make them worth a damn. Even if only for a few months. I DESPISE Mark Henry all together now, and always have as a "wrestler". But I'd be lying if I said I didn't get some solid laughs and entertainment out of the midcard character that was Sexual Chocolate. Theres other examples too.

I think it'd be funny if he played up the whole "I could beat any of you girly men" alpha male thing.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:52 AM   #67
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Boogeyman was entertaining for a month, even without really wrestling.
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To be honest, I'm not sure what to think of Kozlov. Part of me loved the 'Double Double E' line and I'm finding myself saying out of the blue for no reason. But on the other hand, I watched both promos there and you know that feeling when someone's making an idiot of themselves and you feel embarrassed for them, that's exactly how I felt watching them.

I guess time will tell whether that feeling lasts, but at the moment, I can't take him seriously, even if he's suppose to be this MMA/sambo champion.
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I can see how you feel bad, but if you're worried about people amking idiots out of themselves, or performers are worried about looking like idiots, you're in the wrong place.
Even HHH who is on top of the wrestling world spent a good year making an idiot out of himself.
If you feel bad for this guy, look at Nick Dinsmore. Or Boogeyman.
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Is this 'nationality confusion' idea not almost an identical principle to the Jimmy Wang Yang gimmick?
You didn't have any Oriental kids at your school?

JWY is an american character. He is of eastern decsent, but he is American. Tru, he portrays the American redneck cliche, but he's not a blantantly Japanese Man trying to be an American Cowboy.

So, no.
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:59 AM   #71
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To be honest, I'm not sure what to think of Kozlov. Part of me loved the 'Double Double E' line and I'm finding myself saying out of the blue for no reason. But on the other hand, I watched both promos there and you know that feeling when someone's making an idiot of themselves and you feel embarrassed for them, that's exactly how I felt watching them.

I guess time will tell whether that feeling lasts, but at the moment, I can't take him seriously, even if he's suppose to be this MMA/sambo champion.
I know exactly what you mean in terms of empathic discomfort. I get like that with about half the scenes/promos that I've seen the last year; kinda like MVP bitching about his burns. That was really rough.

However, when Vlad said "I could beat both of them," I laughed pretty damn hard. so far, he's a toss up.
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:04 AM   #72
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:18 PM   #73
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I can see how you feel bad, but if you're worried about people amking idiots out of themselves, or performers are worried about looking like idiots, you're in the wrong place.
Even HHH who is on top of the wrestling world spent a good year making an idiot out of himself.
If you feel bad for this guy, look at Nick Dinsmore. Or Boogeyman.
Heh, I'm not worried about people making idiots of themselves. Hell, if someone can get a $200,000 contract and all they have to do is act like a retard or a B-movie star who thinks he is really his character, then more power to him, he's got $200,000 more than I do.

But if his gimmick gets to the point where I'm actually watching and I'm trying to turn away from the monitor because it's that painful to watch then there's a problem and I think that would lead to a problem for someone to get over. Maybe I'll be proven wrong and he'll become big, but at the moment, I don't see that happening.

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I know exactly what you mean in terms of empathic discomfort. I get like that with about half the scenes/promos that I've seen the last year; kinda like MVP bitching about his burns. That was really rough.

However, when Vlad said "I could beat both of them," I laughed pretty damn hard. so far, he's a toss up.
I'm glad someone gets what I meant.

I honestly didn't find that line very funny, but hey, everyone likes something different.
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:45 PM   #74
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I never thought he'd get big or even really get over. I just thought he could be entertaining. "I can beats both of zem" is hilarious to me and I don't know why.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:01 PM   #76
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He was mildly amusing, I will agree. Then again, anyone who is a take off of Ivan Drago probably would get over.

It does amuse me, however, to see that many now are judging a characters 30 second pigeon english interview and describing him as 'over with me', and as a 'toss up' in reference to whether he's going to be good or not.

It's almost as if the WWE has dumbed everyone down. It used to be, say with Kurt Angle, he'd do his vinguettes and then have a match or two and then people would give an opinion on his ability. Nowadays, all you have to do is utter a few comedy words or eat worms on screen and people are ejaculating over the TV screen or ordering a T-Shirt with 'I beat boths of zem' on it.

It's like people no longer care if they are any good in the ring, which what the debacle is supposed to be about. If this Ivan Drago is good in the ring, and funny out of it - wonderful. I can bet what he's really going to be like, hence his lack of in-ring action so far.

How long before he crushes a jobber and shouts on the mic - 'I defeat all man'?
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If you can say that a random dude showing up and eating live worms in the ring didn't mildly entertain you as a midcard act for at least a moment in time you're lying to us and/or yourself.
Boogeyman sucks but to say he was NEVER entertaining isn't exactly fair.
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One personal note that I will hand to Boogeyman, is I watched Wrestlemania 22 with a couple kids who hadn't watched in years and didn't know who Randy Orton or Carlito and shit were, but when Boogeyman came on they said "oh this is that dude who eats worms"
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He was mildly amusing, I will agree. Then again, anyone who is a take off of Ivan Drago probably would get over.

It does amuse me, however, to see that many now are judging a characters 30 second pigeon english interview and describing him as 'over with me', and as a 'toss up' in reference to whether he's going to be good or not.

It's almost as if the WWE has dumbed everyone down. It used to be, say with Kurt Angle, he'd do his vinguettes and then have a match or two and then people would give an opinion on his ability. Nowadays, all you have to do is utter a few comedy words or eat worms on screen and people are ejaculating over the TV screen or ordering a T-Shirt with 'I beat boths of zem' on it.

It's like people no longer care if they are any good in the ring, which what the debacle is supposed to be about. If this Ivan Drago is good in the ring, and funny out of it - wonderful. I can bet what he's really going to be like, hence his lack of in-ring action so far.

How long before he crushes a jobber and shouts on the mic - 'I defeat all man'?

Hold on, there, Scooter. What I said, was "so far, he's a toss-up". I didn't make any judgements on his future development. When the Hurricane started, I loved it instantly, because I knew where they were headed and I knew Helms was a great wrestler. When Lesnar started, I hated it, because he was a generic meathead that didn't talk and beat up on people that weren't in his weight class. We knew where it was going.

But Vlad has not shown me his in-ring ability, so hold my opinion; he has done the same interview thrice, each time equally difficult to watch with minimal leeway in humor, and I hold my opinon.

I liked the arrogant lines.

I disliked the awkward structure of his broken english interviews.

I know nothing of his wrestling ability.

Therefore, as I like 50% of what I've seen and dislike 50% of what I've seen, and a classic coin toss has a 50/50 chance of landing on what you call, I consider him a toss-up -- NOW.

My thots on his career? I'll hold my opinion.
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