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Old 12-06-2007, 06:35 AM   #41
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The following men are really deserving, in my opinion:

William Regal
Val Venis
Finlay
Matt Hardy
Kane

Kane has technically been a World Champion before, but his reign lasted about a day. The guy has been one of the more solid big man performers the WWE has ever had. If Big Daddy V or Mark Henry win the ECW Championship before Kane, I'm going to be very disappointed. He should have been the WWE's choice for World Heavyweight Champion when Edge got injured.

William Regal is probably one of the best performers the WWE has. In the ring he is gold, he's a legitimate tough guy, and he's amazing on the mic. He can play face or heel roles well, and he is truly someone who deserves a courtesy run.

Val Venis is the best bumper the WWE has. Not in terms of falling off ladders, or anything, but as far as taking a move like a suplex goes, he's just the best. He's fallen into his role as "enhancement talent" well, and I expect him to be one of those lifers who ends up as a road agent/commentator. Him winning a World Title would be the ultimate thank you. Someone like Hardcore Holly is eligible for this, but Venis is just better in the ring than Holly, and better on the mic, and quite frankly better. If Venis wins the World Title, then we can talk about Holly.

Matt Hardy is the better Hardy, in my opinion. He's got a much greater understanding of how to structure a match, he's better on the mic, and he's just always been my favourite. So yeah, this is a little biased. When he returns, Matt Hardy should beat MVP for the US Title at WrestleMania, and then start building towards a massive feud with Edge. The WWE really dropped the ball with him fresh off his return in 2005. He could have been massive. Jeff is improving, but like Venis/Holly, we can talk about Jeff once Matt gets there.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:36 AM   #42
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If Matt Hardy ever wins a world title I will quit watching.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:40 AM   #43
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Sorry. I know it was 24 hours but it happened. I agree he deserves another reign if they can push him back to his former glory, but for the purposes of this thread he's no longer a title virgin.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:41 AM   #44
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I completely left out an explanation for Finlay, my mistake. The guy is not as talented on the mic as William Regal, but he has a similar wrestling style. Since getting back in the ring, Finlay has dragged some great matches out of guys like Batista, and has a great badass charisma around him. I would be all for the WWE turning him face and pushing him towards the World Heavyweight Championship, provided he retains the same character.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:42 AM   #45
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If Matt Hardy ever wins a world title I will quit watching.
Jeff Hardy might actually create that effect in me. He has improved immensely, though.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:47 AM   #46
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Jeff Hardy might actually create that effect in me. He has improved immensely, though.
You know, people will say what they want about both the Hardys and that's fine. I can see where they're coming from.

But Jeff Hardy is the star. He deserves that WWE title before Matt even deserves to touch the US belt.

With that being said, my vote is for Jeff Hardy. It's time to give him the strap. He's proven them wrong, he's over enough and ready to hold the belt. He doesn't need the mic skills, he's over as fuck and should go over someone to win that belt. Even if it's only or a month.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:49 AM   #47
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Sometimes I feel like people pop Matt Hardy because they feel bad about his girlfriend and the fact that they'd rather see Jeff and don't want to hurt his feelings.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:23 AM   #48
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:33 AM   #49
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Sometimes I feel like people pop Matt Hardy because they feel bad about his girlfriend and the fact that they'd rather see Jeff and don't want to hurt his feelings.
Most fans have probably forgotten about Lita by now. I think they pop Matt because he's Matt Hardy. The guy they've been cheering for years, because he was a part of that tag team. You know, the exact same reason they cheer Jeff (who is not anymore over than Matt these days).

Jeff Hardy has proven himself somewhat, but to say he is the star is something I disagree with. Matt just overshadows Jeff in every way, in my opinion.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:34 AM   #50
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:46 PM   #54
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You know, Jeff Hardy has been wrestling with the WWE since 97

That means that if he wins a world title, he'll have been around in his company longer before getting the belt than anyone who ever won a world title. I think.

It took Shawn and Bret a while, since they were there since the 80s, but still not 10 years
Did you forget about the 3 year meth trip he took away from wrestling?

This would be moreso true for Matt than Jeff. Matt was unemployed for a month or two.
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Most fans have probably forgotten about Lita by now. I think they pop Matt because he's Matt Hardy. The guy they've been cheering for years, because he was a part of that tag team. You know, the exact same reason they cheer Jeff (who is not anymore over than Matt these days).

Jeff Hardy has proven himself somewhat, but to say he is the star is something I disagree with. Matt just overshadows Jeff in every way, in my opinion.
Same. And his return fued in 2005 with Edge was hot shit. Probably in my top 5 favorite fueds.
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MVP is the future star of Smackdown, no doubt. Unless of course he gets the Kennedy treatment and just as he starts to get really good gets moved to Raw to get lost in the midcard shuffle.

I'd love to see 2008 end with MVP and Matt Hardy swapping the World title back and forth in a huge feud.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:17 PM   #57
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:45 PM   #59
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Jeff Hardy for sure, like BDC said, after he beats HHH (and not if...). As for Matt, I think he still needs to focus on winning and having a run with his first individual title (i.e., the United States championship), and having a solid run with it to cement his status as a legit Main Eventer, before going on and winning the World or WWE championship. Yes, he is a very hard worker who leaves everything in the ring, but he needs to prove he can carry the US title and still be motivated, a hard worker with great charisma and mic skills, and have at least a 5-6 month reign with the US belt, before I'd consider him Main Event champion material.
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Or if Matt wasn’t so damn conservative when it came to the high-flying moves that Jeff is obviously so much more confident in his ability to execute. Although in their days as a tag, I did enjoy watching them hit the Poetry In Motion spots...
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Can you imagine the eruption that Jeff Hardy would get if he won it from Orton on RAW? Like, if they announced the match at the VERY beginning of RAW, then all this anticipation came. Matt would show up on TV and wish him the best of luck. The match goes on and just when Jeff is about to win, the ref is knocked out.

Then someone comes and does their finisher to Jeff. Jeff kicks out of the count and whoever did w/e to him tries to come back in, but Matt comes out and stops him. Randy tries the RKO and Jeff reverses and does the Twist of Fate. Randy kicks out and then does the RKO and Jeff kicks out (THAT would make the fans erupt). Both men get up (sort of WM 23 with Cena/HBK) and Jeff gets a roll up for the win.

The place would go fucking nuts. Yea, i wouldn't exactly give him a loooong run, just one of those Mick Foley-type of wins. One of those "if you missed it...you MISSED it".
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Can you imagine the eruption that Jeff Hardy would get if he won it from Orton on RAW? Like, if they announced the match at the VERY beginning of RAW, then all this anticipation came. Matt would show up on TV and wish him the best of luck. The match goes on and just when Jeff is about to win, the ref is knocked out.

Then someone comes and does their finisher to Jeff. Jeff kicks out of the count and whoever did w/e to him tries to come back in, but Matt comes out and stops him. Randy tries the RKO and Jeff reverses and does the Twist of Fate. Randy kicks out and then does the RKO and Jeff kicks out (THAT would make the fans erupt). Both men get up (sort of WM 23 with Cena/HBK) and Jeff gets a roll up for the win.

The place would go fucking nuts. Yea, i wouldn't exactly give him a loooong run, just one of those Mick Foley-type of wins. One of those "if you missed it...you MISSED it".
A little off topic, but I fully expect them to go with Jeff Hardy hitting a Swanton Bomb at Armageddon, only to get a very close two count, to tease the fans. Then Triple H hits a Pedigree...and Jeff kicks out! Then a second one puts Hardy down.
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Most fans have probably forgotten about Lita by now. I think they pop Matt because he's Matt Hardy. The guy they've been cheering for years, because he was a part of that tag team. You know, the exact same reason they cheer Jeff (who is not anymore over than Matt these days).

Jeff Hardy has proven himself somewhat, but to say he is the star is something I disagree with. Matt just overshadows Jeff in every way, in my opinion.

I don't know how you can possibly believe that Matt Hardy is in the same league as Jeff Hardy at this very moment.
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:58 PM   #66
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If Matt Hardy ever wins a world title I will quit watching.
If you'd continue to watch when Rey Mysterio won... then I'd think you can tolerate anybody becoming a world champ
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