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Old 12-06-2007, 11:37 AM   #681
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Dodgers land Andruw Jones. 2 years, 36 million... kinda risky. Also, since he is taking over center... Is Pierre gonna go to left? Kemp stays in right... Where does this leave Gonzo?

But yeah, that's a good problem to have. Andruw is the big bat we have been waiting to get for a long time.
Gonzo shouldn't play, especially with Andre Either and Matt Kemp on the team. One of them are probably gonna be dealt for pitching though (I've heard Ben Sheets being tossed around).

I like this deal for you guys. Just 2 years, and AT THE LEAST you get one of the best defensive center fielders ever and a power bat. He's still only 30 too.
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:39 AM   #682
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Also, it looks like Rios for Lincecum is likely to go down.

Bonds STILL wants to play next year. lol
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Yah, I dunno, I'm thinking Kemp is gonna be a goner.
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Well, the hot stove is now cold. The Twins have all but taken Santana off the table as nearly every team in baseball has started to inquire about him. The Twins may figure that, unless they play out of their mind, people like Lester, Hughes, or Gomez will still be available in July. So the Twins are likely to try and get one more round of ticket sales out of him.

As for the A's and O's, I don't see deals there being made either as not only do they want to wait until Santana goes, but they don't HAVE to trade Bedard or Haren now as they are under contract.
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There's rumors about the Giants and Yankees talking about Matsui. Not really sure where that would go considering I doubt the Giants will offer Cain or Lincecum for a package centered around Matsui. I've heard about Noah Lowry but I really don't want him. Especially for Matsui.
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Lowry? Fuck that shit. I'd take Cain for Matsui straight up though.
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Yeah, Cain or Lincecum (doubtful) for Matsui and probably a prospect or two is what I would do. I doubt they'd give up either though. They are questioning giving up either for Rios so I don't see how Matsui would get anything done. My guess is that the Giants don't want to give up Lincecum for Rios and are going to the Yankees hoping to get Matsui for much less. Lowry surely won't get it done though.
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Hearing now that there's a Miguel Tejada to the Astros deal in the works. But as Vito pointed out, there's really nothing much happening except for spread out notes of Santana, Bedard, and a some Japanese talent.
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BREAKING NEWS:

Jose Guillen and Jay Gibbons suspended the first 15 games of the season for violating the drug policy.

However. Gary Matthews Jr., Rick Ankiel, Troy Glaus and Scott Schoeneweis. Who were linked to purchasing HGH, were not suspended due to insufficent evidence.
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Barry Bonds pleads not guilty to Tax Evasion and obstruction charges. Bail set at $500K.

Rule 5 draft went down.

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Cardinals release So Taguchi.
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$500,000 is pennies to Bonds
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Rumor has it the Mitchell Report will be out next week and ALL 30 teams will be affected.
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Bonds didn't even have to pay the 500,000 dollars, he'll only owe that if no shows the next hearing/trial or whatever...which I guess is pretty typical
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Rockies trade infielder Jamey Carroll to the Indians for a player to be named later.

Rockies are gonna make a run for Tadahito Iguchi.
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Bonds didn't even have to pay the 500,000 dollars, he'll only owe that if no shows the next hearing/trial or whatever...which I guess is pretty typical

On the next episode of Dog The Bounty Hunter: "Barry Bonds".

Actually, unless something changed, someone if not bonds paid the 500K it's held to ensure he shows up and if he doesn't the court can take that money on default. He may not have put up the money himself, it may have been a bail bondsmen.
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Holy shit. Some new buzz coming out, Johan Santana has said the Mets are where he wants to go. He wants to go to NY but stay out of the hitter-friendly NL.
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Holy shit. Some new buzz coming out, Johan Santana has said the Mets are where he wants to go. He wants to go to NY but stay out of the hitter-friendly NL.

Who's reporting that? ESPN was running last night and this morning the Red Sox were close and no one else was talking to the Twins.
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that being said, if Santana can get the same money and go to the NL, why not? it's easier to pitch in the NL and I'm sure he'd dominate.
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I dunno, I read it on Mets blog. The guy runs it as his full time job and he's been talking with people connected with the team as well as teams following the negotiations. Just a general sense right now is that Johan wants to go to the Mets, but then again its unknown if he'd veto a trade to Boston or the Yankees.

Actually, some believe the Mets may have the best offer right now because they are essentially willing to part with all 5 of their semi-developed, high-ceiling players to get him if need be.
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I dunno, I read it on Mets blog. The guy runs it as his full time job and he's been talking with people connected with the team as well as teams following the negotiations. Just a general sense right now is that Johan wants to go to the Mets, but then again its unknown if he'd veto a trade to Boston or the Yankees.

Actually, some believe the Mets may have the best offer right now because they are essentially willing to part with all 5 of their semi-developed, high-ceiling players to get him if need be.
yeah, I'm still hearing the sox have 2 deals, 1 is w/ Lester and 1 is w/ Ellsbury.

I'd rather not deal Ellsbury, but if it meant...

Beckett
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Dice-K
Schilling
Lester, Buckholtz, Wakefield, or whoever the heck wants to go 5th.

I'm could deal with it, also because we'd still have most our young arms and could go after an OF next year if needed, although if CoCo can stay healthy and field the way he does, I can live with .240, but we need someone who'se a true leadoff hitter.
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The biggest problem I think the Mets would run into, if they could get Johan in a trade, would be the extension. Omar Minaya's policy is to never give more than 5 years to a pitcher (he's never given more than 4 but offered 5 to Zito and 4 with a option to Wagner)...but Santana wants 6 or 7.

I think Omar's gonna try and LOAD the contract with money for 5 years and see if Santana bites. But if not, I'd still give him 6 or 7 years if it was a must. 5 potentially awesome years of Johan would offset the 2 broken down ones.
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The biggest problem I think the Mets would run into, if they could get Johan in a trade, would be the extension. Omar Minaya's policy is to never give more than 5 years to a pitcher (he's never given more than 4 but offered 5 to Zito and 4 with a option to Wagner)...but Santana wants 6 or 7.

I think Omar's gonna try and LOAD the contract with money for 5 years and see if Santana bites. But if not, I'd still give him 6 or 7 years if it was a must. 5 potentially awesome years of Johan would offset the 2 broken down ones.
Santana is the best FA pitcher to hit free agency since Clemens came to NY the first time. I think he might offer 6 years with an option 7th at least.
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Yeah, like I said, I'd offer 7 years in a heartbeat if need be.

Santana
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Silva/Livan/Colon/El Duque

Would be a great rotation IMO.
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In a funny note, the Brewers acquired Salomon Torres yesterday for two prospects...and Torres is thinking about retiring.
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Rockies trade infielder Jamey Carroll to the Indians for a player to be named later.

Rockies are gonna make a run for Tadahito Iguchi.
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Word going around is that the Brew Crew might get Eric Gagne locked in pretty soon.

Also, after the Tigers picked up Miguel Cabrera, Brandon Inge says he wants out.
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Brewers signed Gagne. I like it. Riske, Torres, Gagne, Turnbow. Pretty solid pen. This could be their year.
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In order to make room on the 40-man roster for Pettitte, A-Rod, and Rivera, the Yanks are expected to release Pavano and he'll accept an assignment to the minor leagues while still getting paid the money owed from the final year of his deal, Pavano will not be ready to even begin throwing until July.

Barring a miracle and him healing and somehow getting called up in like September to pitch well (yeah right), this likely officially marks the end of Pavano. $40 million for a guy who pitched in 19 games.
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In order to make room on the 40-man roster for Pettitte, A-Rod, and Rivera, the Yanks are expected to release Pavano and he'll accept an assignment to the minor leagues while still getting paid the money owed from the final year of his deal, Pavano will not be ready to even begin throwing until July.

Barring a miracle and him healing and somehow getting called up in like September to pitch well (yeah right), this likely officially marks the end of Pavano. $40 million for a guy who pitched in 19 games.
Fat chance we'll be using him. We'll find someone in time.

Speaking of which, Yanks are ready to sign reliever LaTroy Hawkins.

And the Rangers are gonna sign Milton Bradley.
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Hawkins kind of sucks but he's our only option as we don't really want to give any relievers any sort of long-term deal and Vizcaino wants something ridiculous like 3 years. Whatever. He might be ok. If he isn't, it's no huge loss. If he is good, then we've gained solid veteran presence in the pen, which we need as it's really only going to be Rivera and a bunch of kids out there. Oh yeah, and Professor Farnsworth, but he's useless.

I wanted Vizcaino back, but I'm not totally sold on him. He was one of our only reliable arms after Rivera straightened him out, but Torre ran him into the ground last year as he always does with somebody. He might not be as good next year because he's all used up.
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The Padres were going to sign Milton, wonder what changed.... I dunno, the guy's a goof anyway... but he was productive..
Farnsworth should be good. Damn.
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Cant the Yankee's just take Jorge Julio from the Rockies instead
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Hawkins will get rocked back in the AL but whatever. The Yankees still really need to get a (real) set-up man somehow. Farnsworth and Hawkins are pretty much one in the same. They should be good but their fastballs seem to have absolutely no movement at all.

I guess Cashman is just gonna try and throw enough shit against the wall and hope something sticks. Hawkins, Farnsworth, Bruney, etc...

Then they got Albaladejo, Britton, Ohlendorf and a ton of other guys in the minors all fighting over a couple spots eventually. All their best bullpen arms in the minors seem to be at least half a season away. It still would be nice to get a more reliable arm than Hawkins as that veteran guy for the pen but I guess we just hope for some of the younger guys to step up.
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How can you say that when Hank Steinbrenner runs the team
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whast up with Humberto? The guy we got from Detroit? He was suppose to be a big fireballer, but I just havent heard anything on him.
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whast up with Humberto? The guy we got from Detroit? He was suppose to be a big fireballer, but I just havent heard anything on him.
He had Tommy John surgery I think. I don't think he pitched at all last year. 3 of our best possible young relievers were all injured last year in Sanchez, Melancon and Cox. I still don't know if they will switch Sanchez to the pen but I'd assume so. No room in the rotation for him anytime soon.
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