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Old 01-28-2009, 12:37 PM   #81
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Noid, these personal attacks aren't helping you, bud.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:42 PM   #82
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Finlay, Mark Henry, Tommy Dreamer, Chavo, The Miz, John Morrison.
Finlay, to a degree. He's a more polished worker, but he doesn't have the image the WWE really want to promote for ECW right now. They're going to use him to make Swagger a star. Also, Finlay is probably slightly below Swagger's level on the mic. Yeah, Swagger has a lisp, but he's a good talker otherwise.

Mark Henry is not better than Swagger. Maybe a little better than him on the mic. Maybe.

Tommy Dreamer is more experienced, but he's old, and his story is leading up to him either winning the ECW Title in June, or not. Him being ECW Champion now would be pointless. Dreamer is probably a better talker, but he's had years more experience in front of crowds.

Chavo Guerrero has really improved on the mic, but probably is around Swagger's level. In the ring he's more experienced, but the WWE obviously doesn't want to use Chavo credibly.

The Miz has improved so well, but his personality just hasn't quite developed to the point where he can be taken seriously as a top star. His ring work is probably below Swagger's.

John Morrison is a maybe, but he's caught up with other things. He really doesn't seem like a good fit to be ECW Champion right now. He should be building towards other things. Morrison is entertaining, but it comes from a different place other than specific mic skills or ring skills.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:43 PM   #83
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Noid, you are so full of shit.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:46 PM   #84
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Mark Henry is not better than Jack Swagger, BDC.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:47 PM   #85
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Congratulations. You picked up on irony for the first time in your life. The likelihood that you said "you are dumb" instead of "you're dumb" because you didn't know which "your/you're" to use would probably trump it.
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You are just saying that because you are a racist.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:47 PM   #87
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No one said he is a deep psychological villain. You're making shit up again. I said that the promo where he insulted Tommy Dreamer's wife and kids isn't just arrogant or disrespectful in the sense that Swagger is a jock. It was just plain tasteless (from a kayfabe point of view), and made Swagger look like a complete dickweed. Not KK levels of dickweed, but pretty damn close.

Oh, and the promo happened. Get over it.
The promo happening doesn't really speak to the point.

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Shut up, BDC. I can at least use grammar and not sound like a sociopath when I talk. Go masturbate to a photoshopped picture of Kevin Nash and "Boogen" hugging, then go have intercourse with KK (which he will deny ever happened, because there was no "evidence," even though a video of it was put out for some reason), before settling down and fawning over John Morrison's abs.

I can't really fault you on the last one. Those are fairly good abs.
Nice edit of your hypocrisy. Let me see if I can find another grammatical error.

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Did anyone see the promo he cut during his feud with Tommy Dreamer? That shit really helped him stand out as an asshole. And not the jocky kind of asshole that BDC is talking about, but the kind of asshole that calls your daughter a cunt without having ever met her. And then he goes and sleeps her. Twice.

If you've been watching his entire career, you'd know that he's not just a cocky asshole, but the character he plays is a pretty disgusting person.

The guy is damn good in the ring, in my opinion, but I'm not going to try and sell him anymore than that. I'll let Swagger do his own selling, because he's going to be around for a while.


You also left out one other thing.


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Shut up, BDC. I can at least use grammar and not sound like a sociopath when I talk. Go masturbate to a photoshopped picture of Kevin Nash and "Boogen" hugging, then go have intercourse with KK (which he will deny ever happened, because there was no "evidence," even though a video of it was put out for some reason), before settling down and fawning over John Morrison's abs.

I can't really fault you on the last one. Those are fairly good abs.
You kind of...Do sound like a sociopath. At least a potential one.

Especially with your obsession over the sex lives of so many posters.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:48 PM   #88
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Congratulations. You picked up on irony for the first time in your life. The likelihood that you said "you are dumb" instead of "you're dumb" because you didn't know which "your/you're" to use would probably trump it.
Yeah, you did that all on purpose.
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Noid, these personal attacks aren't helping you, bud.
What do I need help with? Making cyber friends with a redneck and a fat guy? KK could at least move to the south, or BDC put on a few more pounds just to eliminate redunancy a little bit.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:49 PM   #90
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Wait, if it was irony, why did you edit it afterwards?

Uh-oh...
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Yeah, you did that all on purpose.
I didn't say I did?
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:50 PM   #92
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Hey, was saying Swagger "sleeps her" also irony? Like, you were ironically mocking BDC before he slipped up?
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Wait, if it was irony, why did you edit it afterwards?

Uh-oh...
LOL. What's sad is that the irony was had, and then it was dropped. Well, by BDC. I'm a little disappointed that you didn't even pick up on it, KK.
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What do I need help with? Making cyber friends with a redneck and a fat guy? KK could at least move to the south, or BDC put on a few more pounds just to eliminate redunancy a little bit.
No, you might need help with trying to prove your point, is all. Making fun of them isn't going to help.
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LOL. What's sad is that the irony was had, and then it was dropped. Well, by BDC. I'm a little disappointed that you didn't even pick up on it, KK.
Come now, Noid. You were burned. Just live with it for once, and get back to the actual thread. The "everyone is wrong but me" act doesn't really fool anyone.
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No, you might need help with trying to prove your point, is all. Making fun of them isn't going to help.
I'm going to remember this quote the next time you call me a mess during a discussion.

I mean, I appreciate the sentiment, but....
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Look point is I don't like Swagger, I don't think he is ready for the ECW title, there are 5 other guys I would have handed the title to first, or I would have had more build and made it feel important. The simple fact that there is a go portion of posters here that didn't even know who Swagger was before he won the title is telling on account that we all follow wrestling fairly close.
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Hey, was saying Swagger "sleeps her" also irony? Like, you were ironically mocking BDC before he slipped up?
No, that was just me taking freedom and using "sleeps" as a verb, in the same vain that fucks, bangs, nails, sexes, porks, forks, bones, roots, shtups, shags, rides, surfs, worms, penetrates, logs, or mans could be. Not that I would have expected you to be up-to-date on what verbing women is all about.

Now, there was some irony in the first sentence, KK. Look closely and see if you can connect the dots. By the way, I do love how you study my posts just looking for things to try and use against me, as if I killed your dog or something. I'd say you were obsessed with me, but you seem like the obsessive stalker type, so it doesnt' really surprise me, and wouldn't be news to you.
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I'm going to remember this quote the next time you call me a mess during a discussion.

I mean, I appreciate the sentiment, but....
When was the last time I did that?
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Noid, quit spazzing out.
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No, that was just me taking freedom and using "sleeps" as a verb, in the same vain that fucks, bangs, nails, sexes, porks, forks, bones, roots, shtups, shags, rides, surfs, worms, penetrates, logs, or mans could be. Not that I would have expected you to be up-to-date on what verbing women is all about.

Now, there was some irony in the first sentence, KK. Look closely and see if you can connect the dots. By the way, I do love how you study my posts just looking for things to try and use against me, as if I killed your dog or something. I'd say you were obsessed with me, but you seem like the obsessive stalker type, so it doesnt' really surprise me, and wouldn't be news to you.
LOL retcon.

So...Is the irony that you misuse grammar, or that you do sound like a sociopath? Otherwise, it's been picked up. Move on. Accept the burn, and stop trying to revise things.

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When was the last time I did that?
Last time I posted pictures, oddly enough. Well, a couple weeks after. Maybe you think that's fair because it's beyond some invisible statute of limitations or something, but a spade is a spade.
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Come now, Noid. You were burned. Just live with it for once, and get back to the actual thread. The "everyone is wrong but me" act doesn't really fool anyone.
I did admit it. That is what the irony comment to BDC was about.

In a sentence so close to where I was talking about how close to illiterate BDC is, I made a typo. Egg on my face. First time BDC would have ever picked up on something like that. I pointed it out and congratulated him.

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No, you might need help with trying to prove your point, is all. Making fun of them isn't going to help.
Prove what point? That what happened on ECW actually happened? I don't need to prove that. KK trying to disprove it, or calling everyone liars until someone serves him the video is sad. He is uneducated on Jack Swagger, and that is not my problem.

He doesn't have to like him, nor does BDC. I couldn't care less. BDC, for the most part, has a horrible taste in wrestlers. KK is cynical before he wakes up in the morning. I will say that neither appears to be too up-to-date on Swagger's run on ECW as a whole, so neither really has a fully formed opinion of him. Good for them.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:12 PM   #104
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LOL retcon.

So...Is the irony that you misuse grammar, or that you do sound like a sociopath? Otherwise, it's been picked up. Move on. Accept the burn, and stop trying to revise things.
No, that wasn't a retcon. I love the way you accuse me of making stuff up. You finally got it with the misuse grammar stuff, but lose points for bringing up the sociopath stuff (wrong), needing 100 hints, and telling me to stop revising things when you brought them up. Dick.

Again, I accepted the burn from the start. That's why I went back and patched it up, and gave BDC kudos for picking up on the irony of the situation. Been there, done that. Get with it, dude.
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You didn't click on a thread about Jack Swagger and expect it to be a thread about Jack Swagger, did you?
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Looking back, I think the point was to get the title off Matt than to get the title on Swagger. I agree with ABT's point about Swagger being the de facto best choice due to ECW's thin roster (unless they were to *gasp* have a vacant title). Finlay wouldn't have fought Matt for it in face v. face, Boogen is Boogen, Henry is terrible, Tommy will feud for it later this year, Miz and Morrison are tag champs...I think that's everyone...

I think Troy McClure has potential, but I don't think he'll get higher than the IC title.
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Looking back, I think the point was to get the title off Matt than to get the title on Swagger. I agree with ABT's point about Swagger being the de facto best choice due to ECW's thin roster (unless they were to *gasp* have a vacant title). Finlay wouldn't have fought Matt for it in face v. face, Boogen is Boogen, Henry is terrible, Tommy will feud for it later this year, Miz and Morrison are tag champs...I think that's everyone...

I think Troy McClure has potential, but I don't think he'll get higher than the IC title.
I agree with you on everything but on where Swagger will get. I think he can do far better.
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I never said give it to Boogen. I do think a vacent title would have been better with Swagger climbing the ranks and adding some more wins and promoting him. But like I said, I don't like him, he is too green, and it makes the ECW title look weak.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:32 PM   #110
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I agree with you on everything but on where Swagger will get. I think he can do far better.
That is because you think every bland rookie that walks through the door is great for no reason other than the dirt sheets said so. And look at your track record, Doug Basham is no where, Val Venis is no where, Sean O'Hare is no where. Who else do you like, oh Mike Knox is losing to Rey, that is going great.

You constantly bemoan how I like shitty wrestlers while backing boring wrestlers. Good job. No go argue that for the next 3 pages.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:37 PM   #111
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You guys are all wasting a lot of energy on nothing. Like what you like and discuss it, but stop resorting to argument over irrelevant shit. It's all the extension of an undying vendetta anyways, and for people criticizing eachothers skills and logic of argument, you all employ classic fallacies.
Irrelevance, ad hominem, red herring, appeals to innapropriate authority.

KK loves to harp on strawman, but it's not the only argument that's flawed. Every type he uses is just as easily categorized as fallacy.

Good luck guys.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:37 PM   #112
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I hate to disagree with BDC, and even more so if it means taking Noid's side, but I like The Swag.
Solid in the ring. In the ring he reminds me of some of the old school AWA wrestlers. I didn't catch his promo on Dreamer, but I do want to see him with a mouth piece like Hayes. If they don't do that then give him a diva search loser, or do a face diva/heel wrestler pair with Kelly Kelly. It would give her air time, and it would give us another reason to hate The Swag.


Albeit "The All American" American name is a little too much.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:38 PM   #113
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Right now I consider the ECW title to be the beginner's title. They may throw it to a guy like Matt or Kane every so often to keep it credible, but as a World Title they've had it on just as many new faces. They gave Morrison a pretty good run with it, arguably the Lashley run, Punk, now this guy.
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Old 01-28-2009, 02:49 PM   #114
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P.S., I am not siding with or against anybody in this endless fued. I just think it's awful. It spills over into every thread, and is disguised as being on topic when it clearly represents a bigger problem.

KK and BDC, you guys did the same thing in casual with Jon Kano and it sucked. It's not that I think anyone right or wrong, I just think it's petty.
Neither side is going to sway, and you're all of the mind that you're correct and superior. So let it be.

Big arguments and fueds are fun. But not all the time in every thread
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LOL retcon.

So...Is the irony that you misuse grammar, or that you do sound like a sociopath? Otherwise, it's been picked up. Move on. Accept the burn, and stop trying to revise things.



Last time I posted pictures, oddly enough. Well, a couple weeks after. Maybe you think that's fair because it's beyond some invisible statute of limitations or something, but a spade is a spade.
I haven't seen a recent picture of you in the photo album in like two years. Beyond that, I hardly posted at all on TPWW from August to November. Even since my return, I know I haven't seen any picture of you, let alone made fun of them. You sure you don't have me confused with somebody else?
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:53 PM   #117
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KK, Noid and BDC ruin anouther thread
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:01 PM   #118
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BDC started this thread, therefore BDC is allowed to ruin it. Also, I would say more of Noid and KK ruined it, I tried to bring this thread back on track at least once.
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The only things I really hate about Swagger is that dumb one-piece tights he wears to the ring, and that Jimmy Carter-esque smile (see the pic on the first page if you don't know what I'm talking about.
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That is called a singlet, and that is what real wrestlers wear, it makes sense.
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