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Old 09-03-2009, 04:37 PM   #41
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I liked Dave until he literally stopped trying to wrestle. He hasn't really improved his game since he hit the main event (I know he's been injured, but still). It's like he found his formula and is sticking to it. This mindset is as rigid as his ring work.

I've always thought his mic work sucked. His promos should consist of him saying something along the lines of, "I'm going to kick your ass!" and that's it.

And I wouldn't hate the dance so much if he could at least get the timing right. Jesus, it's like it's the first time every time.
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:39 PM   #42
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As for the Cena comparison,

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Say what you will about John Cena but at least Cena has tried to become a better wrestler. And John Cena at least tries to be a poor mans Rock. Batista doesn't even put forth the effort to change or evolve or improve.
This pretty much sums up how I feel about that.
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #43
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I don't mind the dance, it is the spazzing out and hitting his chest afterwards (when he realizes there is more pyro to go) that I hate.
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Old 09-03-2009, 05:36 PM   #44
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Air machine gunning. That's what it is. And it makes no sense.
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:00 AM   #45
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lol Dancing Dave

I find it weird to think that he's been in the main-event for the best part of 5 years now, yet I still sort of see him as 'new age', like I can't help but feel his prime is ahead of him and 'he's still new to it all'. Then I just think Austin, Rock and countless others who performed so many memorable matches/moments, had shorter times at the top than him.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:24 PM   #46
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Batista matches I just skip over kinda like a HHH match. Neither of these two clowns invoke anything entertaining to me anymore, even this bullshit DX reunion seems so fake. Its not DX without Sean, Chyna, Billy, and Road Dogg. HHH was never the leader of DX, it was always shawn in my book.

HHH was the leader of the DX with Sean, Chyna, Billy and Road Dogg. DX Army is probably the most popular version of D-X. Their feud with The Nation was the best thing besides Austin-McMahon in 1998.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:03 PM   #47
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lol Dancing Dave

I find it weird to think that he's been in the main-event for the best part of 5 years now, yet I still sort of see him as 'new age', like I can't help but feel his prime is ahead of him and 'he's still new to it all'. Then I just think Austin, Rock and countless others who performed so many memorable matches/moments, had shorter times at the top than him.
Those are my thoughts on this also!
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:18 PM   #48
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Nah you guys are crazy. Dave isn't my favorite wrestler by far, not close really. But he has had quite a few top notch matches with the likes of HHH, Benoit, Taker, Cena, and. Mysterio

He isn't a genius mat technician no doubt. What he is is a big powerful dude and he plays that up. Also he is super over with the fans, and no one can question that. I have to say big Dave surprised me by starting out wrestling so late in his career and still becoming a top player in the WWE. Only thing holding him back is injuries he keeps racking up, but besides that he does his job well.
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:44 PM   #49
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The list of WWE divas he's "been with" is more impressive than any match he's had.

Melina, Kelly, and Rosa? Dude keeps busy.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:10 PM   #50
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The list of WWE divas he's "been with" is more impressive than any match he's had.

Melina, Kelly, and Rosa? Dude keeps busy.
Which is surprising, and nearly suspect, as he's really not very attractive.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:32 PM   #51
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well, status does tend to trump looks.

See also: Jagger, Mick and Simmons, Gene
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:08 PM   #52
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I imagine there were more drugs at those after parties.
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Nah you guys are crazy. Dave isn't my favorite wrestler by far, not close really. But he has had quite a few top notch matches with the likes of HHH, Benoit, Taker, Cena, and. Mysterio

He isn't a genius mat technician no doubt. What he is is a big powerful dude and he plays that up. Also he is super over with the fans, and no one can question that. I have to say big Dave surprised me by starting out wrestling so late in his career and still becoming a top player in the WWE. Only thing holding him back is injuries he keeps racking up, but besides that he does his job well.
I said 5 or 6 good matches matches. Name 7 good matches and I will rep you and tell you that you're right.
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:36 PM   #54
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I said 5 or 6 good matches matches. Name 7 good matches and I will rep you and tell you that you're right.
I can only think of two matches that I recall enjoying with Batista, and neither were normal singles matches.
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Old 09-06-2009, 05:55 AM   #55
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I enjoyed the build-up to Batista turning on Evolution/Trips. Dunno about particular matches though.
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Batista is HUGELY over with kids, prob the most out of any superstar.
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That's a joke, right?
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:11 AM   #58
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I enjoyed the build-up to Batista turning on Evolution/Trips. Dunno about particular matches though.
The only match that I can recall of that time was Batista/HHH HiaC, and I rather enjoyed that match.

The only other Batista match I recall enjoying is Batista/Rey vs. MNM.
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Seven good matches of Batistas heh? I think I can do that easily enough. First off of course is his phenomenal match with Taker at Wrestlemania 23. It was definitely match of the night, and one of my favorites that year. Next I would go with the afore mentioned Bats vs HHH Hell in a Cell match for all the reasons mentioned. Also Taker and Bats Last Man Standing match at Backlash before their epic WM battle was also very good. Gets overshadowed a lot by their WM match. Then there is the Eddy vs Bats match which I recall being a really good match. Also Bats had a exceptional match with MVP on Smackdown during his time chasing Edge for the title. Also he had a couple good matches with Edge so pick anyone of those. Last I would go with Batista/Flair/Orton vs Rock/Foley from back in the evolution days for the win.

That wasn't so hard really. Still could name a couple more including some awesome bouts he had with Mysterio and some other Taker matches from 07. Batista isn't the hitman when it comes to in ring skills, but the man can go when he needs too.
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Johnny McNasty, I think the words "phenomenal" "awesome" and "epic" might be a bit of a stretch.
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Johnny McNasty, I think the words "phenomenal" "awesome" and "epic" might be a bit of a stretch.
I agree. I can only think of one good Batista match, and the Undertaker carried him in that one.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:24 AM   #62
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Nah I wouldn't say so. With the build those two got going into WM, and the fact that if your match ends up stealing the show at Wrestlemania, a word like phenomenal makes sense I say.

Also Kami Taker might've of dictated the pace of the match like most veterans do, but it takes two to tango. I say Batista put in an effort equal to that of Takers in that match. You don't see 4-5 star matches from Taker with the likes of Khali do you?
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Khali's in a league of his own though. I get your point, Johnny, but Khali can barely walk.
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I loved it back in late 2004/2005 when he first started swelling up. He was just effortlessly cool in the way he'd cut promos, and the way he was never a big dummy, but a guy who was not stupid enough to let himself be manipulated by Evolution.

When he made the decision to Batista Bomb Triple H through the contract signing table, his future was set. The man was going to become the World Heavyweight Champion and the top gun on RAW, which is how it should have been. But what then became a question is what does Batista have going for him besides the storyline where he turns on Triple H and wins the World Title? Instead of addressing this potential limited quality Batista possessed, they shipped him off to SmackDown! and just tried to make him a big fish in a small pond.

He loses all the characteristics that made him intriguing -- his sense of style, his "I don't give a fuck" attitude, and just how effortlessly good he is. He become a Superman fighting for the same principles as guys like John Cena have. He is B-L-A-N-D. If Batista is to become interesting again, I think he needs to turn heel, become a bit of a bad-ass or, or just set himself apart from the other faces on the roster somehow.

There's the possibility he will be going to SmackDown! again, which is just a desperate way of clearing up RAW, getting a big name to SmackDown!, and refreshing Batista without ever doing much work -- but hopefully Michael Hayes can do more with this, and actually make Batista relevant again.
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I did enjoy what we got to see of his program with Eddie.
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I said 5 or 6 good matches matches. Name 7 good matches and I will rep you and tell you that you're right.
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Seven good matches of Batistas heh? I think I can do that easily enough. First off of course is his phenomenal match with Taker at Wrestlemania 23. It was definitely match of the night, and one of my favorites that year. Next I would go with the afore mentioned Bats vs HHH Hell in a Cell match for all the reasons mentioned. Also Taker and Bats Last Man Standing match at Backlash before their epic WM battle was also very good. Gets overshadowed a lot by their WM match. Then there is the Eddy vs Bats match which I recall being a really good match. Also Bats had a exceptional match with MVP on Smackdown during his time chasing Edge for the title. Also he had a couple good matches with Edge so pick anyone of those. Last I would go with Batista/Flair/Orton vs Rock/Foley from back in the evolution days for the win.

That wasn't so hard really. Still could name a couple more including some awesome bouts he had with Mysterio and some other Taker matches from 07. Batista isn't the hitman when it comes to in ring skills, but the man can go when he needs too.
Sorry I'm bumping this but I want to be a man of my word on this place and I just noticed this today...

McNasty you named 7 matches and I have to give you rep... And say you were right. Now, I don't agree with your assessments on this, but good is subjective and you named 7 of them.

Batista/Taker (Wrestlemania 23):
Was good but not match of the night Cena/HBK was.

Batista/HHH (Hell in a Cell, Vengence 2005):
Was definitly a good match, good job picking that one.

Batista/Taker (Last Man Standing):
It was alright, definitly not on the level of the previously mentioned matches.

Batista/Eddie Guerrero (???):
You didn't name a specific match but I'll give you this based on the old theory of Eddie being able to wrestle pudding to a good match, so he must be able to put on a good match with Batista has only slightly less charisma than pudding.

Batista/MVP (Smackdown ???)
Once again not specific but still, I guess this counts.

Batista/Edge (Sevral Matches):
They had a cage match at One Night Stand 2007 I think so I'll just pretend you said that rather than be vague. That was a good match.

Evolution/Rock 'n' Sock (Wrestlemania 20):
At least this one is specific, and you're right this was a good match. Proving that Batista could be in a good match... That is as long as he has 4 better workers in the ring with him... If you're going to pick this match why not pick Royal Rumble 2005 as one of his best matches of Smackdown/Raw at Survivor Series 2005 as a great match of his?


Though I don't agree with most of this, I have to give props for comming up with seven matches when I called you out to do so. Sorry it took so long to respond.
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Batista is HUGELY over with kids, prob the most out of any superstar.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:07 PM   #76
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I was actually starting to enjoy Batista when he was involved in the HBK/Jericho feud last year. He was sort of a tweener and it was refreshing to see him not just pandering to the fans and beating up 'bullies'. I'd like for him to recapture something along those lines.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:19 PM   #77
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i'd like batista and the way he wrestler.

but the ones that i really hate as a wrestler is randy "the viper" orton
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:22 PM   #78
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:29 PM   #79
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no, not for that reason at all.

the way he always winning is not fair.he needs the legacy to win and everytime he used them too.

and in real life he is a jerk.he has been in the army, but there they kicked him out.in the beginning he was everybody favorite, but later on everybody hates him.and his gimmicks.

the way he everybody treats in and outside the rings is horrible, that's all.
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