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Old 05-23-2004, 01:43 PM   #1
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The Greatest IC Champions
In your opinion, who were the greatest Intercontinental Champs of all time? List the Top 10 (and maybe explain your reasoning, if you want)

Pat Patterson
Ken Patera
Pedro Morales
Don "The Rock" Muraco
Tito Santana
Greg "The Hammer" Valentine
Randy "Macho Man" Savage
Ricky Steamboat
The Honky Tonk Man
Ravishing Rick Rude
The Ultimate Warrior
Mr. Perfect
Texas Tornado Kerry Von Erich
Mr. Perfect
Bret "The Hitman" Hart
The Mountie
Rowdy Roddy Piper
The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith
Shawn Michaels
Marty Jannetty
Razor Ramon
Diesel
Jeff Jarrett
Dean Douglas
Goldust
Ahmed Johnson
Hunter Hearst-Helmsley
Rocky Maivia
Owen Hart
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Ken Shamrock
Val Venis
The Road Dogg
The Godfather
Edge
D'Lo Brown
Chyna
Chris Jericho
Kurt Angle
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero
Billy Gunn
Jeff Hardy
Kane
Albert
Lance Storm
Christian
Test
William Regal
Rob Van Dam
Booker T
Randy Orton
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:50 PM   #2
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In no particular order:

Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Randy Savage
The Honky Tonk Man
Pedro Morales
Mr. Perfect
The Rock
HHH
The Ultimate Warrior
Davey Boy Smith
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:50 PM   #3
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In your opinion, who were the greatest Intercontinental Champs of all time? List the Top 10.

Marty Jannetty
Diesel
Dean Douglas
The Godfather
Chyna
Billy Gunn
Kane
Albert
Test
William Regal
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:52 PM   #4
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I'd have to go with:
Mr Perfect
Owen Hart
Bret Hart
Razor Ramon
Chris Jericho
D'Lo Brown
Eddie Guerrero
Texas Tornado
Randy Savage
Randy Orton
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:56 PM   #5
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:57 PM   #6
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Rick Rude and Mr. Perfect were above them all.
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jokes over. Now, in no particular order:

10. Greg "the Hammer" Valentine
9. The Honky Tonk Man
8. Kurt Angle
7. Ricky "the Dragon" Steamboat
6. Eddie Guerrero
5. Chris Benoit
4. Owen Hart
3. "Macho Man" Randy Savage
2. Bret "Hitman" Hart
1. Mr. Perfect
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Old 05-23-2004, 01:59 PM   #8
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In no particular order:

Savage
Rude
Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Triple H
The Rock
Owen Hart
Kurt Angle
Chris Jericho
Razor Ramon

On talent alone, Steamboat and SCSA deserve to be mentioned, but for some reason, I don't associate Austin with the I-C belt. And Steamboat had his reign cut really short because he wanted time off, so Vince had him job to HTM. HTM himself had a really long reign, but was booked to look like such a worthless piece of crap that it's hard to think of him as 'great.' I remember one four-week stretch on USA Primetime where Honky faced Lanny Poffo, Hillbilly Jim, Tito Santana, then 'Cowboy' Scott Casey. The matches went: cheat to win, cheat to win, DQ to retain, cheat to win...yikes. Not his fault, but still, it killed his credibility.
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:21 PM   #9
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Pedro Morales
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:23 PM   #10
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On talent alone, Steamboat and SCSA deserve to be mentioned, but for some reason, I don't associate Austin with the I-C belt. And Steamboat had his reign cut really short because he wanted time off, so Vince had him job to HTM. HTM himself had a really long reign, but was booked to look like such a worthless piece of crap that it's hard to think of him as 'great.' I remember one four-week stretch on USA Primetime where Honky faced Lanny Poffo, Hillbilly Jim, Tito Santana, then 'Cowboy' Scott Casey. The matches went: cheat to win, cheat to win, DQ to retain, cheat to win...yikes. Not his fault, but still, it killed his credibility.
I don't know, Honky got some of the biggest heat I had ever heard before during his reign. Fans were literally calling for his head by the end of it. So in a character sense, he was pretty good.
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:37 PM   #11
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1. Mr. Perfect
2. Shawn Michaels
3. The Rock
4. Bret "The Hitman" Hart
5. Ravishing Rick Rude
6. The Ultimate Warrior
7. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper
8. Triple H
9. Razor Ramon
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:39 PM   #12
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:51 PM   #13
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I don't know, Honky got some of the biggest heat I had ever heard before during his reign. Fans were literally calling for his head by the end of it. So in a character sense, he was pretty good.
I totally agree. He did big money and drew tons of fans to the arena just because they hated him so much. But i'm just saying when I think of greatnes a guy who was booked to look weak on purpose just doesn't leap to mind. I gues it's the difference forma fan's perspective and an "indsider's" perspective.

Based on revenue alone, HTM is probably one of the top workers in WWE history. But as a fan, I just remember him going months at a time between clean wins.
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:57 PM   #14
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in no order except for number one

htm
bret hart
hbk
mr. perfect
macho man
owen hart
ricky steamboat
don muraco
greg the hammer
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:00 PM   #15
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Who is Dean Douglas btw?

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Perfect
Tornado
Bret
Bulldog
Owen
Rock
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Old 05-23-2004, 03:30 PM   #17
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In no particular order

Bret Hart
Steamboat
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Honky Tonk Man
Chris Jericho \
Chris Benoit > These 3 b/c they got the belt credibility after Chyna
Kurt Angle /
Rick Rude
Mr. Perfect
Randy Orton (RKO 4 t3h w1n)
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:35 PM   #18
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Shawn Michaels
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Old 05-23-2004, 06:34 PM   #19
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Old 05-23-2004, 06:37 PM   #20
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Mr. Perfect
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Owen Hart
Chris Jericho
Rob Van Dam

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Old 05-23-2004, 07:08 PM   #21
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Loose Cannon posted in a thread about the Intercontinental Title without even mentioning Orton? Damn, that takes all the fun out of it!

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Old 05-23-2004, 07:15 PM   #22
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Old 05-24-2004, 11:39 AM   #28
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Old 05-24-2004, 12:14 PM   #29
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A couple of you are fans of the Honky Tonk Man, and that's fine, but the guy makes me sick. "Why?" you might ask. Read his website. He's a very bitter man who believes his own hype. He hates Piper because of this, Hogan cause of that, Nash is this, and Hall is that. He bad mouthed Mr Perfect when he died, bad mouthed Lugar AND Elizabeth when she passed, but praises the hell out of Jake Roberts.
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:00 PM   #30
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A couple of you are fans of the Honky Tonk Man, and that's fine, but the guy makes me sick. "Why?" you might ask. Read his website. He's a very bitter man who believes his own hype. He hates Piper because of this, Hogan cause of that, Nash is this, and Hall is that. He bad mouthed Mr Perfect when he died, bad mouthed Lugar AND Elizabeth when she passed, but praises the hell out of Jake Roberts.
Um...Didn't Rude pass away before Perfect, and Elizabeth? Or am I going crazy?
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Old 05-24-2004, 01:51 PM   #31
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Old 05-24-2004, 02:02 PM   #32
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Um...Didn't Rude pass away before Perfect, and Elizabeth? Or am I going crazy?
He's talking about HTM, not Rick Rude. He didn't even mention Rude.
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Just for the record Rude DID past away before Perfect and Elizabeth. Just over 5 years now.
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:09 PM   #34
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as a person, htm leaves a lot to be desired but as a heel IC champ he did what he was supposed to (and did it well imo)
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Old 05-24-2004, 04:17 PM   #35
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Its pretty obvious, Randy Orton is #1-10, he's simply the best.
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:06 PM   #36
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orton hasn't done anything for the title...so far.
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Old 05-26-2004, 01:50 PM   #37
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Well, Orton has held it longer than some of the most noteworthy champions in history. Orton so far has held it 164 days by my calculations, beating off the likes of Ricky Steamboat (65 days), Rick Rude (128), Kevin Nash (118), Steve Austin (less than 92, combined), Billy Gunn (19) and Shane Douglas (15... minutes).

Not that I'm saying he's the best champion ever, but if they leave it on him for a few more months...
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Old 05-26-2004, 01:54 PM   #38
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If the WWE officals are as high on Orton as we all think they are, they'll probably try to make him one of the best of all time, if not the best. He's got all the tools to be the next "legend", they just need to take their time to build him up to be so. So far, so good
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Old 05-26-2004, 09:21 PM   #39
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I'd say The Rock, Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Jeff Jarrett, Shawn Michaels, Mr. Perfect, and Razor Ramon
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Old 05-26-2004, 09:57 PM   #40
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The Rock, Rick Rude, Bret Hart, Angle, Benoit, Jericho ... most of these people have been mentioned already.

I like The Rock's reign especially because he reminded me of The Honky Tonk Man...the way he would retain the victories.
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