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Old 12-14-2012, 05:08 AM   #81
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Oh yeah, because "OH JUST DO THINGS BETTER" is a much different stance.
Yeah. It is. lol.

There are writers out there that aren't mentally retarded. WWE just hasn't found them.

(Alright, that may have been a little extreme, but the point is a heel turn is just an unnecessarily drastic change to a problem that can be solved without intentionally alienating your core audience.)
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:16 AM   #82
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Cena's fans are getting older every day. He's going to have to do something or they will lose interest. He might have to turn heel if his fans start going into the ages where they like the heels better than the faces.

At what age did you all switch from liking the heels more than the faces? I can't remember when exactly it was for me. Sort of think it might have been Owen Hart and Mr. Bob Backlund.
Sesame Street has been popular for decades. It's original fans are well into their 30s/40s now. The human race has this habit of pumping out more and more children as time goes by to where there's always people of every age and no demographic ever "dies out".
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:46 AM   #83
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Getting back on topic.......

Do you guys like the idea of stacking RAW with the highest drawing wrestlers in the company ( and having an official draft every 14-18 months or so while strictly adhering to an actual roster split......like they did a few years ago). By doing this...
As far as this goes, I don't mind the idea. Smackdown is not gonna dominate the ratings or anything. Why not use it to try to build some guys up and make an intriguing wrestling show that stands on it's own? You can have your big time Raw stars appear as a "special attraction" at will. Just give the show it's own identity though. Promote it as the future of WWE while not completely ignoring the guys who draw.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:52 PM   #84
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I agree with #1-WWF-Fan. Smackdown is desperately lacking its own identity and needs to be built around the stars of tomorrow with current well known mid card talents and the occasional special attraction from RAW from some of the main event guys. I think honestly they could capitalize on Smackdown being the television brand to showcase their NXT talent instead of trying to shop a network for NXT by itself. WWE NXT doesn't need its own television show IMO. Either put it on WWE.com or YouTube. Or have a segment each week showcasing what they believe is the next breakout NXT star to move to the main roster. Call it "Up and Coming" or something like that and let them wrestle against a good midcard talent like Truth, Kofi, Ryder, Santino or someone.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:42 PM   #85
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Sesame Street has been popular for decades. It's original fans are well into their 30s/40s now. The human race has this habit of pumping out more and more children as time goes by to where there's always people of every age and no demographic ever "dies out".
but you see, wrestling is cyclical, so it has to do what it did before. Sure, that wasn't an age thing so much as a failure to keep a demographic going, but....Ummm...Ponies?

There is a chance WWE's going to go more adult again at some point, by the way. They just need some sort of real incentive. With their current model, they're making more money than they did with bigger ratings, so they don't need them. Buyrates are up (overall), which means even with fewer viewers more people are watching the paid product.

The "mature" era died out for reasons other than the fanbase getting too old, by the ay, so yeah. No demographic gets too old.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:20 PM   #86
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John Cena turning heel would create a lot of interest in the product, and probably give the WWE a temporary spike, but everything the "keep Cena face" party is saying is completely true. Right now, there is no real babyface to challenge the regime of a heel Cena. Sheamus and Ryback are really the only guys. It's not a long-term solution.

Plus, the longer Cena stays face, the more impact an eventual heel turn will have. The new Superman is coming out soon, so being a stoic, never-wavering babyface might actually be cool soon. Pulling the trigger right now would blow too early.

That being said, I am totally for the brand split making a full return. Yes, they only have it now for house shows, but breaking the brand-split hasn't really boosted SmackDown's ratings any. Keeping rosters separate would at least give some top talent a break, allow more characters time to develop and keep some guys creatively separated for future matches.

Start off with all talent that have two Wellness strikes against their name and make them SmackDown exclusive. Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, R-Truth, William Regal and Evan Bourne would already give SmackDown a roster with various talents. Superstars involved in the World Heavyweight Title picture would also become SmackDown exclusive -- so throw Big Show, Dolph Ziggler and Sheamus on that roster. Sin Cara could benefit from the taped environment of SmackDown and from continuing his interactions with Rey Mysterio, so there's a babyface team for the show. Alberto Del Rio has always been more entertaining on SmackDown than RAW. He and Ricardo would add some spice to the show, and that would allow Ricardo to put on a mask and wrestle under his alter-ego. Del Rio's storylines with Rosa Mendes would put Rosa on SmackDown, and that would mean Epico & Primo would be on that show, too, perhaps working under Del Rio. They would be a nice heel foil for Mysterio & Sin Cara. The Usos would also be SmackDown exclusive to keep them away from Roman Reigns and his stuff with The Shield, which is a main storyline, so should be featured on RAW.

So, just with that, you've actually got a pretty good roster going already, and you're leaving enough talent for the three hour RAWs.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:40 AM   #87
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Noid, do you not see the potentially huge problem in having all your 2-strike guys on one show?
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As far as this goes, I don't mind the idea. Smackdown is not gonna dominate the ratings or anything. Why not use it to try to build some guys up and make an intriguing wrestling show that stands on it's own? You can have your big time Raw stars appear as a "special attraction" at will. Just give the show it's own identity though. Promote it as the future of WWE while not completely ignoring the guys who draw.
I don't know. I think this might hurt Smackdown.

Since Smackdown is huge with latino viewers, I think they should stack Smackdown with all the minorities who really aren't going to go anywhere in the main program anyway.
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Ezekiel Jackson Vs Hunico for Smackdown top feud!
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Noid, do you not see the potentially huge problem in having all your 2-strike guys on one show?
You'd keep them out of the main spotlight on RAW. Maybe having them all on one show is a bit extreme.
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Ezekiel Jackson Vs Hunico for Smackdown top feud!
Del Rio vs. Hunico could be an amazing feud on SmackDown, to be honest.
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