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Old 04-10-2013, 01:12 AM   #41
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because he is an "indy darling" and that's gertner's gimmick
Cesaro actually had me interested when he debuted.....then he opened his mouth and that was it for me.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:14 AM   #42
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Ryback has been getting that for months
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Look at his reactions for the past 6 months.
Ryback is a product of his push. He was shoved down peoples throats until it caught on. At first, all he got was "Goldberg" chants, and he still does sometimes to this day. He's never really done anything spectacular. It's all about what you're given to do. Remember Skip Sheffield on NXT?
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:15 AM   #43
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Cesaro actually had me interested when he debuted.....then he opened his mouth and that was it for me.
As Asksana's rugby-playing boyfriend? Doubtful. I didn't even dig him then.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:16 AM   #44
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He's lost pretty much every ppv match he's had and he's still very over. How was he shoved down peoples throats? He had no feud until September, wrestled in 2 minute squashes and never spoke and didn't fight for any titles. If anything he hasn't been pushed hard enough.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:18 AM   #45
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As Asksana's rugby-playing boyfriend? Doubtful. I didn't even dig him then.
He had a decent look. Hell, Fandango has a dancing with the stars gimmick and is the talk of the wrestling world and people were going nuts here before he even debuted.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:20 AM   #46
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I think to be great a rassler needs to rule in the ring and on the mic. That's why Bret Hart is best rassler ever. He was super awesome in the ring and cutting promos. Someone who was shit on the mic but great in the ring was "dogs are by the pool" Canadian murderer, forgot his name though.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:21 AM   #47
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He's built up as an incredible, unstoppable machine. That's easy to get behind. Only because he's booked that way. Mason Ryan could have been given his role and gotten a following, I bet.
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You know what I've never gotten about Ryback naysayers: they complain that no new talent is over or being developed and here comes Ryback who gets over and just because he's not a workrate king they shit on him.
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He's built up as an incredible, unstoppable machine. That's easy to get behind. Only because he's booked that way. Mason Ryan could have been given his role and gotten a following, I bet.
Mason Ryan is horrific in every which way.
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I'm not even a Ryback naysayer. I'm just asking you to tell me what Ryback does so much better than Cesaro. There's room for more than one in the main event.
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Mason Ryan is horrific in every which way.
Mason Ryan could pull off Ryback's move set. His look is impressive. His promo is probably lateral movement. I'm reminded of Batista all of a sudden, too. He wasn't even a good promo until he turned into a cocky douche.
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He's got a better look, sadly better on the mic, not as good a wrestler though. Cesaro isn't a main eventer, but I have no problem with him being upper-mid. People think just because you label a guy not a main eventer that it's a huge diss, but the problem with the company is there is a huge lack of a supporting cast and Cesaro slots in well. Just not in the main event.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:27 AM   #53
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Mason Ryan could pull off Ryback's move set. His look is impressive. His promo is probably lateral movement. I'm reminded of Batista all of a sudden, too. He wasn't even a good promo until he turned into a cocky douche.
Ryan has almost Khali level stiffness. Ryan could get over. In a bodyguard role, but not on his own. He doesn't have Ryback's explosiveness, but then again, Ryback doesn't have Goldberg's either.
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FWIW...saw a bunch of people wearing Cessaro's shirt at WM.

If the back of it wasnt terrible, the front of it is one of the better logos for a shirt they have.
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i agree that he's not main event material right now. but that doesn't exclude him from working his way there over time.
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He's boring as all hell
Somehow, this came off to me as you shitting on Cesaro.
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He's got to improve on his promo's. If he does than I have no problem moving him up.
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i agree that he's not main event material right now. but that doesn't exclude him from working his way there over time.
And he still deserves TV time over Brodus Clay, I feel.
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Ryback is not better on the mic than Cesaro. Cesaro at least sounds like he has all of his chromosomes
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Somehow, this came off to me as you shitting on Cesaro.
Right now he is. His mic skills are holding him back and with his size he's the type that Vince would like.
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Thing is, I never even mentioned him main eventing in this thread. I was just wondering where the hell he's been. He was a highlight of many Raws for me over the past few months, and his downplay has been quite noticeable to me.
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And he still deserves TV time over Brodus Clay, I feel.
a million times over, yes.
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I still think Ryback's catchphrase is more over than he is.
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I still think Ryback's catchphrase is more over than he is.
I think he should go back to "YUP YUP YUP...WHAT IT DO!"
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a million times over, yes.
Clay is in a comedy tag team going nowhere.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:40 AM   #68
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I would like to hear Ryback say in his intense Ryback voice "Yup Yup Yup, What it do"

Also I would like to hear Titus O'Neill's weird awkward make it a win speech again.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:40 AM   #69
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:41 AM   #70
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:48 AM   #71
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:50 AM   #72
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I still have no idea what the point of that segment was, but I was entertained.
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:06 AM   #73
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Omg it was so random and people on 411mania just shit all over it, and I thought it was funny as hell.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:15 AM   #74
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:17 AM   #75
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Cessaro will win the WHC MITB match..or at least be on the short list of contenders..
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:02 AM   #76
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I see Cody or Sandow winning it.
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:35 AM   #77
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There just aren't really that many midcard guys at the moment for him to do anything with without it getting repetitive. There's a bunch of lower and upper mid guys so they could bump someone up or down, but they're all a bit busy right now.

I wouldn't mind seeing him and Christian though, could probably get some big spots from them with Cesaro' strength and Chrisitans size and ability to bump.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:13 AM   #78
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Hmm, Christian.

I wonder if we get Dolph Ziggler vs Christian for the WHC at some point.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:22 AM   #79
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That would make Christian a face and he's bland and dull as a face, so God no.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:33 AM   #80
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lol, just read the Smackdown spoilers.

Why does he even still have the belt.
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