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Old 10-05-2015, 12:04 AM   #121
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Maybe once Donald Trump's presidential campaign is completely put kiboshed, he'll go even more nuts and start up a new wrestling company with Wale...or something...
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:06 AM   #122
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Cena retains at Hell in a Cell against Sheamus or someone, comes out the next night on Raw for the US Title open challenge and gets ambushed Nexus style by Samoa Joe and maybe a couple other NXT guys who are out to end Cena on behalf of the IWC and "guys who have busted their ass in the indies for years while WWE's golden child made millions".

The attack leaves Cena "injured" and he has to vacate the US Title. Title goes up for grabs in a tournament that is won by Samoa Joe who dominates the competition WITH HIS PATENTED COQUINA CLUTCH until Cena comes back in January looking for revenge. But first, the Royal Rumble. Joe and his fellow members of the Initiation to Wipe out Cena (GET IT!?) makes sure he doesn't win and then refuses to grant him a US Title match unless it's on his terms. A) He'll use Cena to get his WrestleMania moment. B) Cena has to put his career on the line. Joe vs Cena title vs career at WrestleMania.
I'm assuming that program ends with Cena going over strong at Mania?

Way too early for Joe. He hasnt even headlined in NXT. I dont think WWE should be looking for Kevin Owens 2.0 right now. Too many indy geeks makes the show look like...well TNA.

I would be trying to find someone who Cena can give a rub to, that would actually be able to have a chance of carrying the company down the road.
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Old 10-05-2015, 12:07 AM   #123
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As hilarious as these Noid posts are...it's depressing to realize that WWE has gotten so bad that seemingly the one person who could always find a way to have an optimistic take on the product thinks it's complete shit.

There is great wrestling out there outside of WWE but this current WWE product has practically burned me out on the industry as a whole.
For the record, I thought it was a really effective show.
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Old 10-05-2015, 04:19 AM   #124
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I'm assuming that program ends with Cena going over strong at Mania?

Way too early for Joe. He hasnt even headlined in NXT. I dont think WWE should be looking for Kevin Owens 2.0 right now. Too many indy geeks makes the show look like...well TNA.

I would be trying to find someone who Cena can give a rub to, that would actually be able to have a chance of carrying the company down the road.
As a matter of fact, in my little fantasy booking, I did have Cena going over at WrestleMania. It wouldn't be Kevin Owens 2.0 though because it wouldn't be a few weeks of build for an Owens win and then "Cena gets his win back. Not convinced? CENA WINS AGAIN! We REALLY need to drive home this point that Cena is better than this guy! Also, the guy who beat him is gonna lose a couple more times after that huge win to make sure any credibility is shot."

You'd have Cena out of action for a couple months after the attack... You'd use the Rumble to stall and stretch out the eventual confrontation/revenge while keeping Joe looking like a fucking stud... You'd eventually have the match made for WrestleMania after Joe has spent 5 months building credibility as the guy who put Cena out of action and dominated the competition as US champion... and then you'd have Cena be triumphant at WrestleMania. Once. You wouldn't book multiple rematches so Cena can COMPLETELY remove any doubt that he's miles ahead of Joe. You'd have two guys step in to the scene to take each guys' attention and branch off onto their own paths. You'd have both guys keep looking strong. You wouldn't drill the point into people's heads that Cena is completely superior. He'd have his win, Joe would have that one single loss and down the road, if you wanna have a rematch, it would be HUGE.
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Old 10-05-2015, 02:14 PM   #125
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You could even keep their feud going in mini feud fashion by having them battle in MITB while being kept off each other for extreme rules and payback, assuming the schedule mirrors that of 2015. At battleground, replant the seeds to have the mania rematch at Summer Slam. It really isn't that hard.
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Old 10-05-2015, 03:18 PM   #126
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As a matter of fact, in my little fantasy booking, I did have Cena going over at WrestleMania. It wouldn't be Kevin Owens 2.0 though because it wouldn't be a few weeks of build for an Owens win and then "Cena gets his win back. Not convinced? CENA WINS AGAIN! We REALLY need to drive home this point that Cena is better than this guy! Also, the guy who beat him is gonna lose a couple more times after that huge win to make sure any credibility is shot."

You'd have Cena out of action for a couple months after the attack... You'd use the Rumble to stall and stretch out the eventual confrontation/revenge while keeping Joe looking like a fucking stud... You'd eventually have the match made for WrestleMania after Joe has spent 5 months building credibility as the guy who put Cena out of action and dominated the competition as US champion... and then you'd have Cena be triumphant at WrestleMania. Once. You wouldn't book multiple rematches so Cena can COMPLETELY remove any doubt that he's miles ahead of Joe. You'd have two guys step in to the scene to take each guys' attention and branch off onto their own paths. You'd have both guys keep looking strong. You wouldn't drill the point into people's heads that Cena is completely superior. He'd have his win, Joe would have that one single loss and down the road, if you wanna have a rematch, it would be HUGE.
I guarantee if WWE booked that angle leading to Mania and Cena went over. People here would say Joe got burried.

Seems illogical that a feud goes from major injury to career threatening to well let's just move on then. And what would Joe's next program be? No matter what it would be a huge step down just like Owens'' was. And again people in the IWC would be like "burrrrrried".

You guys respect Steve Austin, right? He said it was the right thing for Cena to go over Owens 2-1.
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:28 PM   #127
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Aren't you the guy who asks "What successful territory did *insert person here* book?"
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:31 PM   #128
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:33 PM   #129
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:22 PM   #130
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Seems illogical that a feud goes from major injury to career threatening to well let's just move on then. And what would Joe's next program be? No matter what it would be a huge step down just like Owens'' was. And again people in the IWC would be like "burrrrrried".
Joe comes out on Raw the night after WrestleMania and says Cena earned his respect. The other guys in the stable that injured Cena don't feel the same way and turn on Joe. That's just one option. Don't act like a blood feud hasn't turned into two guys "respecting each other" in the history of wrestling.

There are ways to work two guys out of a program subtly if the writers put in even a little bit of effort.

And yes, sometimes building up for months to one big match and not doing it again and again and again and again over the next month or two to the point where it's done to death and you can never come back to it down the road for another big fight atmosphere is much better for everyone involved. Instead every feud has to be run through in a couple months, every feud has to have a rubber match so everyone can be even. It's lazy booking and no one ends up getting over from it.
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Old 10-06-2015, 05:38 AM   #131
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Absolutely hate how they burn out match-ups now.
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Old 10-06-2015, 05:40 AM   #132
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I was reading an interesting factoid about how Orton and Bryan actually had the longest streak of PPV main events against each other in 2013. A lot of that comes down to automatic rematches and lazy shit like that. I wonder how much more exciting Orton vs. Bryan could have been as a potential main event on its own, and not just the story of Bryan's rise making it.
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You could say that about a lot of matches. I brought up Reigns v Wyatt last week. We're supposed to be excited that they're wrestling in a HITC match, but we've gotten them going at it on free tv, a cool table spot included, two weeks in a row, on top of the last two network specials. I don't understand how they could think anyone could give a fuck at this point.
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Old 10-06-2015, 03:49 PM   #134
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Absolutely hate how they burn out match-ups now.
That and they have a really bad habit majority of the time of just using the announcers to build up feuds or reasons why anything is happening. Either the good stuff gets relegated to WWE.com exclusive stuff or is just implied by the announcers.

For example, Owens wrestled Sin Cara last night because they had an incident backstage. Instead of showing it in an "Earlier Today" type recap, the announcers just said it happened and that was it. Crowd probably thought the whole thing was just some random match than something with real meaning to it.
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Old 10-06-2015, 09:31 PM   #135
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They're particularly bad at it with Randy Orton. Matches with Sheamus, John Cena and Daniel Bryan have just been completely run into the ground.
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Had no clue Owens vs. Sin Cara had a story myself.
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