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Old 05-25-2005, 06:00 PM   #1
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Some moves are just dumb...
One such group of moves I'm thinking of is pumphandles. Be it a slam, suplex, or anything else starting with a pumphandle, it just looks dumb. They take to long to set up, and aren't very impressive. What moves do you think are dumb and a waste of time. (And don't bring up moves like the worm/stinkface/people's elbow).
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:02 PM   #2
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the slingshot. you know when you roll on your back and "slingshot" your opponent into a turnbuckle or somethin. the most retarded move ever created.
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:04 PM   #3
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the airplane spin yeah its supposed to get your opponent dizzy, but wont u get dizzy also.
Also the monkey flip never really liked it
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:09 PM   #4
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the airplane spin yeah its supposed to get your opponent dizzy, but wont u get dizzy also.
American Dragon used this as a finisher to a match...with 101 revolutions
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Bearhugs usually look pretty dumb.
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:19 PM   #7
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The Punch/Boot/Leg Drop combo and alone. It was okay for 80s, and hell, even the early 90s, but once the Cruiserweights came in, it made it look lame. I could understand if Hogan was Yokozuna-sized, I'd call that a legit finisher, but at his size, it's ridiculous to call it devastating, much less for it to win a match or a TITLE with.

Also, the Viscera Hump.
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:19 PM   #8
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I agree with the slingshot 100%. Also, Undertaker's "old school" where he walks across the ropes is pretty stupid. It's cool for mark out moments, but it doesn't make much sense.

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Old 05-25-2005, 06:41 PM   #9
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The Punch/Boot/Leg Drop combo and alone. It was okay for 80s, and hell, even the early 90s, but once the Cruiserweights came in, it made it look lame. I could understand if Hogan was Yokozuna-sized, I'd call that a legit finisher, but at his size, it's ridiculous to call it devastating, much less for it to win a match or a TITLE with.
No, you've got it all wrong. It's not the impact that keeps them down for the three count. The fact is that Hogan is highly skilled, and has learnt exactly where to apply a certain amount of pressure to someone in order to temporarily paralyse them to get the pin.
That's why Hogan can get the pin using the moves he does, despite not being the biggest of people. The reason other people can't use it is because they don't know the exact pressure point to hit, or apply too much/little pressure.

It is not known how he learnt the method he uses as his finisher, but it has been proven time and time again that it's effective.
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:43 PM   #10
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How about the Unprettier? Just the amount of time it takes to set up and then hit just irks me.
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:48 PM   #11
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No, you've got it all wrong. It's not the impact that keeps them down for the three count. The fact is that Hogan is highly skilled, and has learnt exactly where to apply a certain amount of pressure to someone in order to temporarily paralyse them to get the pin.
That's why Hogan can get the pin using the moves he does, despite not being the biggest of people. The reason other people can't use it is because they don't know the exact pressure point to hit, or apply too much/little pressure.

It is not known how he learnt the method he uses as his finisher, but it has been proven time and time again that it's effective.
Does that gap that sometimes appears between their neck/chest and his knee have something to do with it? And what about when he can't reach their face for the Big Boot? Are there multiple pressure/weak points?
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:50 PM   #12
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How about the Unprettier? Just the amount of time it takes to set up and then hit just irks me.
I don't like the setup to the Unprettier. It's not the length of time that bothers me, it's how he turns them. He sometimes even releases their arms if he can't reach far enough. If he did it with a backup-type setup, I'd love it.
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I dunno, I like the Pumphandle, especially the version of the slam where one guy lifts the other guy up all the way over his shoulder. (aka the Meltdown)

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Old 05-25-2005, 07:06 PM   #14
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Does that gap that sometimes appears between their neck/chest and his knee have something to do with it? And what about when he can't reach their face for the Big Boot? Are there multiple pressure/weak points?
Yes, sometimes the pressure needed is so minimal it's caused by the displacement of the air.
Also different people have their pressure points at slightly different points, hence the change in where he hits them.
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Old 05-25-2005, 07:26 PM   #15
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Atomic drop\inverted atomic drop. First one cause its just a knee to the ass, second one because its a knee to the nuts but somehow doesn't count as an illegal move.
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Old 05-25-2005, 07:47 PM   #16
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:16 PM   #17
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I always thought that the bronco buster was a bit shit, the initial impact was fine but to continue hitting them looks lame as there is little force behind.

Also the stratusfaction and dudley dog are ridiculous it is obvious the person having the move done to them has to lift the other.
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:28 PM   #18
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I always thought that the bronco buster was a bit shit, the initial impact was fine but to continue hitting them looks lame as there is little force behind.

Also the stratusfaction and dudley dog are ridiculous it is obvious the person having the move done to them has to lift the other.

Yeah the bronco buster did have a kinda homoerotic quality to it, having your nuts inches from someones face while bouncing up and down with the optional "yeehaww" thrown in for good measure.

I agree with the stratusfaction and the dudley dog as well, opponent just lifts the guy\girl doing the move..nice to see him\her having a helping hand in their own defeat.

Stupidest name for a move imo has to be "sliced bread number 2" seriously WTF
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:30 PM   #19
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Spanky called it "Sliced Bread #2" because it was(is) the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Spanky called it "Sliced Bread #2" because it was(is) the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Meh, its similar to the dudley dog but with the move turning into a scorpion death drop.
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:01 PM   #22
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pumphandle slam by test is a my least favourite move.
i watched summerslam 1999 the other night, and i reckon thats about the first time i've ever actually seen him pull it off successfully.

also, i hate piledrivers, because, i'm assuming, you can't actually hit their head on the canvas (unless your owen hart), so essentially...ur not doing anything to them right?
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moves that normally amount to nothing, but are supposed to be finishers when a particular wrestler does them or puts their own 'spin' on it:

John Cena's shoulder brushing punch
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Unprettier irks me alot lately. Back in the day it was great cause it looked like Christian actually had the guy locked in and looked like there was a fair amount of impact.

Now he just loosely holds the guys hands and falls down, on the odd chance that he hits it it looks like there is no impact and that the guy just falls down.
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pumphandle slam by test is a my least favourite move.
i watched summerslam 1999 the other night, and i reckon thats about the first time i've ever actually seen him pull it off successfully.



Its probably by far the most reversed finisher in the history of wrestling. Ive only ever seen it hit a few times, usually they just drop behind whoevers doing it when they get lifted up.
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For all intents and purposes that moves like a standard atomic drop without the knee up the arse. Same "effect" when the moves hit though i guess (assbuster).
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Oh yeah I forgot- the X-Factor. Like somebody is going to jump up horizontally when you grab their head.
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Truthfully...hurricanranas. So you use your legs to flip the guy over onto his back. That's what they do while training to become wrestlers...flip onto their backs.
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Paulie, ever been DDTed in real life? Best finisher in a real fight
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Old 05-26-2005, 01:12 AM   #33
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Oh, and half of Rey's move set, because it just looks so fake, and you can tell the other guy has to help him.

Also, reverse powerbombs, like what Hassan did to Shelton to the guard rail. Those look crappy.
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Old 05-26-2005, 01:15 AM   #34
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Tajiri's Tarantula is starting to get pretty dumb. Sure, it was kinda impressive the first fifty thousand times, but now it's just like "O....K". It's even dumber in the sense that he can only legally keep it locked in for 4.9 seconds.
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Old 05-26-2005, 01:21 AM   #35
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Paulie, ever been DDTed in real life? Best finisher in a real fight
I'll try that someday. And then nip up like The Rock
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I'll try that someday. And then nip up like The Rock
I thought the word was kipp up? I could be wrong.
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For all intents and purposes that moves like a standard atomic drop without the knee up the arse. Same "effect" when the moves hit though i guess (assbuster).
Have you ever fallen hard on your ass? Bruised/broken tail bones are a bitch.
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The Worm and the Nightmare On Helms Street.

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