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Old 07-01-2005, 02:55 PM   #1
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wtf? -About Christian
I don't get where they're going with him. He needs to be on Raw as far as I'm concerned. I thought he was supposed to feud longterm with John Cena? I guess that went nowhere now that he's on Raw and CC is on SD!

Anyone else feel a bit let down as far as the trades go?

CC shouldve been sent back to Raw for either Jericho or Carlito.

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Old 07-01-2005, 03:06 PM   #2
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well they could continue to do like words being tossed at either or of them from their respected shows and meet up someowhere down the road at one of those interpromotional PPVs
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:16 PM   #3
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Hopefully they'll keep him in Midcard Hell on Smackdown a few weeks feuding him with the likes of Hardcore Holly and Charlie Haas, then release him as part of the roster cuts. Ahh, it's so nice to dream.

(Waits to be neg repped and flamed by those who think Jason Reso is the "next big thing" and that he deserves to win the "big one")
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:28 PM   #4
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I think they should meet at Wrestlemania 22 and bring together a great show. But I think Captain Charisma needed to be on SmackDown! so he could go for a championship without Triple H to hold him back.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:37 PM   #5
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I'm glad Christian is on SmackDown now, I watch SmackDown a hell of a lot more than I watch Raw...
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:42 PM   #6
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There wasn't much of a response to him on SD....but the poor fans had been there for hours, and had already seen him once that night. Still, he doesn't have anything immediate going for him. Maybe a feud with someone unoccupied, like Booker T, so fans who don't watch RAW (yes, they exist!) get a better feel for his character/style?
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Christian stands a much better chance of main eventing on SD than on RAW.
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Hopefully they'll keep him in Midcard Hell on Smackdown a few weeks feuding him with the likes of Hardcore Holly and Charlie Haas, then release him as part of the roster cuts. Ahh, it's so nice to dream.

(Waits to be neg repped and flamed by those who think Jason Reso is the "next big thing" and that he deserves to win the "big one")
Wait no longer.

Reso is one of the only sure things the WWE has left. If they don't use him to his full potential then it will just go down as another one of the biggest wastes in WWE company history (Alongside of Ted Dibiase, Owen Hart, Ron Killings, AJ Styles, etc, etc, etc.....) You are clearly misguided if you believe for even one second that the likes of Baldcore and Haas are even on the same level of raw talet
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I think they're still planning a Cena/Christian feud down the line, it will be like one of the most built-up feuds ever, over the next 6 months or so, have them trash-talk each other. Christian saying that Cena was lucky he got drafted to SmackDown, and at joint events like SummerSlam and Survivor Series they can have confrontations. Then at the Royal Rumble, Christian wins it and chooses to go back to RAW to face Cena at WM22.
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I'd love to see Christian feud with Cena. But I'd like to see him feud with bigger people, like Batista, Undertaker. Big in size, that is. You know, have him get over like that may it be with cheap wins or whatever.
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I like the sound of that.

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Just a reminder that negative repping Prodcore Holly will result in you getting neg reps back. Now Prodcore, I know you like Holly, but he will get no chance in hell at a title shot.
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Wait no longer.

Reso is one of the only sure things the WWE has left. If they don't use him to his full potential then it will just go down as another one of the biggest wastes in WWE company history (Alongside of Ted Dibiase, Owen Hart, Ron Killings, AJ Styles, etc, etc, etc.....) You are clearly misguided if you believe for even one second that the likes of Baldcore and Haas are even on the same level of raw talet
Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.
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Just a reminder that negative repping Prodcore Holly will result in you getting neg reps back. Now Prodcore, I know you like Holly, but he will get no chance in hell at a title shot.
Prodcore Holly? LMAO!!!................

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Are you just calling me stupid because I don't like Hardcore Holly and you were personally offended, or are you just saying that because I appreciate Captain Charisma more than you?
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Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.
Rrrrigh all the shit that's happened with the title and you keep watching for 25 years but the minute Christian, an above average worker at the very least, wins you're done? Instant crediblity there . Not to mention you seem to rank AJ Styles above Dibiase and Owen Hart.
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Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.
For one thing, Christian is becoming a top draw right now, which is something the WWE needs on either brand to get people to want to watch it again. His Captian Charisma gimmick is getting over with the fans, and that is something that they can use to their advantage. Giving him a title run should be among their plans right now, and I'm not sure why you're not liking him. Sure, he's no Bret Hart, Eddie Guererro or Kurt Angle, but he's got the charisma (hence his gimmick name) necessary and more skills than some of the WWE roster right now.

Plus, this is the type of stuff that I thought the WWE should do for SmackDown so people will WANT to watch on Friday nights. So they will WANT to watch two wrestling shows, so they CAN piss off the RAW fanboys in saying, "look, we got this other show you should be liking and watching, too." And Christian is one of those guys that they should be doing.

Plus imagine him winning the WHC, then him and Cena have a interpromotinal match at Summerslam for the ultimate Champion vs. Champion match.
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Rrrrigh all the shit that's happened with the title and you keep watching for 25 years but the minute Christian, an above average worker at the very least, wins you're done? Instant crediblity there . Not to mention you seem to rank AJ Styles above Dibiase and Owen Hart.
First of all Christian being an above average wrestler is your opinion. You may think fact but I would disagree and I'm sure there are others who would disagree as well as those that do agree. Everybody sees things differently. IMO Christian is average at best.

Secondly I didn't rank AJ Styles above DiBiase and Owen Hart as far as being a great wrestler I said especially not AJ Styles based on AJ's in-ring ability. AJ doesn't even compare to DiBiase and Hart in the storytelling aspect of wrestling. I emphasized AJ Styles because Christian is nowhere near being even remotely as good as an in-ring performer as AJ Styles.
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First of all Christian being an above average wrestler is your opinion. You may think fact but I would disagree and I'm sure there are others who would disagree as well as those that do agree. Everybody sees things differently. IMO Christian is average at best.

Secondly I didn't rank AJ Styles above DiBiase and Owen Hart as far as being a great wrestler I said especially not AJ Styles based on AJ's in-ring ability. AJ doesn't even compare to DiBiase and Hart in the storytelling aspect of wrestling. I emphasized AJ Styles because Christian is nowhere near being even remotely as good as an in-ring performer as AJ Styles.
First off, she is taking on your ignorance to Christian possibly being a main event in that notion that you said you would stop watching if Christain ever became the WWE Champ or the WHC. The WWE Champ is now on Cena (someone that the internet fans seem to hate with a fucking passion) and the WHC has been HHH-branded for years. How is giving Christian either belt making things worse?

And you're acting as though there is no room for improvement, and that he can never improve his in-ring abilities.

Bottom line is that the WWE is getting him over in that he's becoming a likeabile heel.

In my mind, you must've confused Christian with Tyson Tomko.
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Look Progcore....not everyone can be a bully like Hardkore Holly. Some people earn their shots through hard work and dermination to find something that sticks. Not everyone can just say, "I want a title shot and I want one NOW!".

And yes...CC can actually be the next big thing. Not because he's got the word, "Charisma" in his name. But because he's actually found something that gets him over with the fans. Not us smarks who Vince doesn't care about anyway. But the marks who's attention spans can be measured in nanoseconds. Got it?

Now take it home James Steele.
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SOMEONE TELL YOUR HERO! BANANA IS BACK!

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Christian is nowhere near being in the same category as DiBiase, Hart, Killings, and especially not AJ Styles. I will NEVER be convinced that Christian deserves to be on the main event level, Hell as far as I'm concerned he shouldn't even be on the Intercontinental/US title level. He just seems completely avaerage to me. Average mic skills, average ring skills, silly costume, etc. Any wrestler who has to be given a nickname with the word "charisma" in it in order to get over is lacking in that department (example: TNA calling Jeff Hardy the "Charismatic Enigma" in order to get him over more when Jeff Hardy is anything BUT charismatic.).

I just don't see Christian as being a big star. It befuddles me how so many "Internet Fans" seem to think he should be main eventing. Personally I think it's bullshit. The only good thing about Christian is he has been with WWE for quite a while and he's tolerable as a tag team wrestler but in my opinion that's aboot it. I think the reason he gets the TV time he gets now is because he's one of Vince's favorites. The day Christian wins either the WWE title or the World Heavyweight title is the day I quit watching WWE for good and I've been watching wrestling for 25 years.

WOW, your opinion, but I don't get it at all. The guy busts his ass every time he goes out there and GETS A REACTION. Isn't that what a wrestler is suppossed to do? He has been buried countless times and is still over with the fans. How you cannot appreciate that makes me wonder if you're really a wrestling fan. I give the guy all the credit he deserves because he's not a guy that plays the political game, as he takes what gets and does wonders with anything. One of Vince's favorites? Where did you even here that from? Trust me, with the talent he has, he would be Champion and be getting a mega push if he was one of Vince's favorites.
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I can't beleive somone said that about Christian I'm not getting into a fight or nothing but I have to take obvious sides with LC the 'E' in WWE is for entertainment and Christian entertains me.
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Old 07-01-2005, 06:52 PM   #38
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Oh yea and AJ Styles. Pretty dumb to compare WWE wrestlers and Indy wrestlers because WWE wrestlers are always limited on what they can do in the ring. I mean AJ has never worked for a big company yet. Half those moves he does probably wouldn't be allowed. AJ has poor psychology, lacks a little in mic work and does a lot of flashy moves. He's good, yea. But it depends on what we're actually comparing here and the preference of the person.
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Old 07-01-2005, 07:40 PM   #39
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WOW, your opinion, but I don't get it at all. The guy busts his ass every time he goes out there and GETS A REACTION. Isn't that what a wrestler is suppossed to do? He has been buried countless times and is still over with the fans. How you cannot appreciate that makes me wonder if you're really a wrestling fan. I give the guy all the credit he deserves because he's not a guy that plays the political game, as he takes what gets and does wonders with anything. One of Vince's favorites? Where did you even here that from? Trust me, with the talent he has, he would be Champion and be getting a mega push if he was one of Vince's favorites.
That's a good point; Christian has busted his ass for the company for that I give him all the credit in the world. But that still doesn't mean he should be World Champion. He's been buried quite often too. But both those things are what a wrestler is supposed to do. Just because he's busted his ass for WWE for about 8 or 9 years and has been buried a few times doesn't mean he should be main eventing. I don't see nothing about Christian that makes him special or stand out in any kind of way. He's got a stupid gimmick and his wrestling skills are nothing great either. In my opinion a main eventer should be intense and energetic and exciting to watch. Christian is just a generic worker, period, and generic workers getting titles is why WWE is in the shape it's in now.

Everybody keeps talking about how damn over Christian is but it doesn't seem that way to me. His pops are nowhere near as big as Cena's and many people say that Cena shouldn't be where he is. I'm not a big fan of Cena either but atleast he's somewhat exciting to watch. Christian is about as exciting as watching paint dry. Say what you want about why Christian should be pushed toward a World title run but the bottom line is he's just another guy that the "Internet smarks" thinks is being held down and therefore everyone bitches about how he should be pushed. Then when somebody like myself points out how damn overrated that particular wrestler is then people get all offended. Well I don't give a damn what anybody says Christian will never win the WWE or World title because he just ain't good enough. End of story.
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Old 07-01-2005, 07:48 PM   #40
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I don't think he should be champion right now because he hasn't been built up like a HHH yet. Only those guys should be the champions because of the strong buildups. But Christian has never and probably will never be given a strong build. You can't deny the crowd reaction every week. Add in victories for 7 months straight over strong opponents and you've got yourself a main eventer, who can work the mic, work the crowd and actually wrestle. Not a seen combo these days, except with a few.

No his pops aren't as big as Cena's. Cena is a babyface who've they pushed strong for the past year or so. Of course they would be bigger then a midcard heels. You're the first person I've heard (Internet or Casual fan) say Christian is as exciting as watching paint dry, but whatever.

What exactly don't you like about him that you like about others on the roster? Actually, who is your favorite wrestlers on the roster?
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