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Old 08-06-2005, 11:35 AM   #41
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Nowhere Man said it best. HBK was never the single greatest at anything at anytime. In his true prime, he played second fiddle to Bret. And after that, he was second to Austin and The Rock and hell, even Trips had a run where he was THE biggest name in wrestling ( in a god way, I mean, circa 1999-2000).

So, based on talent, HBK is one of if not the best ever. But popularity is a huge part of the business. So its hard to make that claim if you're HBK because, basically, you're a little ignored.

BTW, unless the WWE gives him a major push and lets him dominate the main event scene for a few years, prepare to have the same discussion about Kurt Angle in a few years.
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:12 PM   #42
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Call me crazy, but I think HBK is the best in the ring right now. Seriously, there's nobody else I won't flip the channel on. Everybody on this forum is in love with Beniot, Jericho, Angle and whoever but their matches just don't even belong in the same show as HBK. I garuantee you HBK could have a match with anybody and make it good. I can see a five star with him and Zack Gowen, that's how talented he is.

Sure back in the day he was always overshadowed by other guys, and yes, Bret was better. But man oh man, something was always missing when HBK wasn't around.
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:18 PM   #43
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I dunno. Eddie managed to have a 2 minute+ promo with no words, and STILL had people glued.
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:19 PM   #44
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I still wanna see that promo
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KK, Bret is living the high life. New wife, lots of money, left the business while still on top, not ruining that cred, like so many old dinos still hanging around today. And why shouldnt HBK still be wrestling, hell he has 2 more years to go before he puts on 5 stars matches like the Hitman was doing with Benoit in wcw at 42 years of age. Cant quit now.
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:58 PM   #46
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Shawn is the best today BAR NONE
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:59 PM   #47
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Heh. Yeah, because Shawn Michaels really needs to ASPIRE to anything right now.

Like maybe a stroke.

Poor canadian fanboys.

Bret's living the high life. Yeah, forcibly removed from doing something he loves because of a stroke. That's really the high life.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:23 PM   #48
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Well it's certainly not a bad one. Now is it?
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this match shows why HBK should still be wrestling

http://rapidshare.de/files/2424228/W...jamin.wmv.html

I just rewatched the whole match and was like good.

Benjamin vs. Michaels form Raw. 15 minutes of awesome action
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:37 PM   #50
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Well it's certainly not a bad one. Now is it?
Depends on what you're looking to live. I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be too crippled to enjoy what I love in life.

But maybe you're right. Maybe Bret's a moneygrubbing whore who doesn't care that he'll die if he ever does what he loves again.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:43 PM   #51
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As Bret said, "It's not about the money, it's about the respect". I think he has proven that to be all too true time and time again. He just wants to leave on better terms, cant fault a guy for that. Besides, he isn't gonna do something to put his health in jeapordy.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:17 PM   #52
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Michaels has never been the best at anything, at any point in his career. Except at bullshitting everyone around him, including the fans.

He may be better than 85-90% of the people in the business NOW, but that is due to the fact that the business totally sucks ass at this point. Being one of of the best, or the best, at a time when something is on a downward spiral is not an accomplishment at all. It's like becoming the captain of the Titanic as it's sinking.

Bret Hart on the other hand was a damn fine wrestler and performer, for many years, while there was actual competition going on - and the business was on fire. Shawn is supposedly so 'marketable' that he played second fiddle to everyone his entire career; including Bret, and that is where that jealousy comes in.

Shawn is so "important" that he left DX and was completely forgotten about. The four [or five] went on without him, and reached even more success without him there then they probably would have with him there -- considering he'd still have to be the focal point of everything.

Hart was there all the time, doing what was asked of him and being a team player - no matter what company he worked for. At the same time, Michaels was faking injuries & doing whatever he could to prevent himself from helping anyone but himself, as he did and still does believe that he is SHAWN MICHAELS.

Bret Hart knows the difference between Bret Hart and Bret "The Hitman" Hart. He can draw a line between reality and fiction, something that Michaels apparently can't do. The business is a work, and apparently someone forgot to get that memo to Shawn.

Is Michaels a good performer? Yes. Is he a good wrestler? No. Is he going to be listed as one of the biggest stars [modernly]? Yes. Is he the very best of them? No.
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He's up therebut I think eddie is a bit better.
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Also if brock came back he'd own them all.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:29 PM   #55
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Bret Hart knows the difference between Bret Hart and Bret "The Hitman" Hart. He can draw a line between reality and fiction, something that Michaels apparently can't do. The business is a work, and apparently someone forgot to get that memo to Shawn.
I love Bret, but he has some trouble drawing a line between reality and fiction probably even more so then HBK. Otherwise Bret would not have been upset over getting screwed at Montreal.

Not saying you are wrong just saying should have used a better example then Bret.
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:38 PM   #56
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Yeah, that comment is going to start a shit storm.
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:45 PM   #57
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Also, you're wrong. I'm on my way out the house, so I just want you to think about it for a few hours and know in your heart that you're wrong on so many levels. I don't have but a minute to get into it.

But if you look at what Hart did for the WWF, the dedication he showed the company, the financial hit he took to stay, the way Shawn was behaving, the personal friendshsips involved, and the moral and contractual obligations that the company still owed Bret, thewn there's no way in hell you can reasonably say that Bret "would not have been upset" if he could separate reality from fiction. What the WWF did was real and it was wrong and no man with any ounce of self-respect would just go "Oh well, its part of the business."

Maybe Bret could've let it go sooner, but no way in hell does him being upset at being shit on by the company he worked so hard for meam anything other that Bret hart was a proud man who believed that people should honor thier word.

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Yeah but nothing pisses me off more then "the Hateman" leaving c-fedding
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As Bret said, "It's not about the money, it's about the respect". I think he has proven that to be all too true time and time again. He just wants to leave on better terms, cant fault a guy for that. Besides, he isn't gonna do something to put his health in jeapordy.
Yeah, a cripple coming back to McMahon is really respect-worthy.
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Also if brock came back he'd own them all.
Please. brock may be good, but he's not THAT good.
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Also, you're wrong. I'm on my way out the house, so I just want you to think about it for a few hours and know in your heart that you're wrong on so many levels. I don't have but a minute to get into it.

But if you look at what Hart did for the WWF, the dedication he showed the company, the financial hit he took to stay, the way Shawn was behaving, the personal friendshsips involved, and the moral and contractual obligations that the company still owed Bret, thewn there's no way in hell you can reasonably say that Bret "would not have been upset" if he could separate reality from fiction. What the WWF did was real and it was wrong and no man with any ounce of self-respect would just go "Oh well, its part of the business."

Maybe Bret could've let it go sooner, but no way in hell does him being upset at being shit on by the company he worked so hard for meam anything other that Bret hart was a proud man who believed that people should honor thier word.

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PH, you are right and I don't blame Bret Hart for being mad or upset over it. I should not have limited what I said just to Montreal I should have extended it to his whole career

For example Bret really does live his gimmick about being the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be. You see the stuff he writes and in his interviews he really does believe that, and arguably he is the best ever. If it's true or not isn't the point though it's that deep down he really believes it. That is a better example I think then the Montreal one I gave earlier.

I hope you see where I'm coming from this post.

Not trying to take anything a way from Bret, because I love him and think he is one of the best ever.
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I love Bret, but he has some trouble drawing a line between reality and fiction probably even more so then HBK. Otherwise Bret would not have been upset over getting screwed at Montreal.

Not saying you are wrong just saying should have used a better example then Bret.
Well the reality is pretty close to the fiction here.

Look at it this way. This IS (or was) his job. This is a major action that would affect the customers' (fans) outlook on his overall competence (His persona and his ability to draw). This was orchestrated by an unethical boss (Vince) and played out with the help of coworkers (Fellow wrestlers/refs).

Yeah, he'd have to buy into a fantasy to have a problem with this. Why, if this happened to me when I worked at Warner Cable, I would have laughed it off and said "Very Funny, Vince."
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Yeah, a cripple coming back to McMahon is really respect-worthy.

OK, well now you're just TRYING to rile my fine self up. I will renrge on any further comment till I have cooled down considerably.
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OK, well now you're just TRYING to rile my fine self up. I will renrge on any further comment till I have cooled down considerably.
No, just pointing out how fucking stupid your version of the story is.
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KK, any version but your own would be considered that way. You need to open your mind to other views and opinions now and then, my friend.

But it's ok, I will relegate to you the victory in this one sided debate. I am a generous fellow.
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KK, any version but your own would be considered that way. You need to open your mind to other views and opinions now and then, my friend.

But it's ok, I will relegate to you the victory in this one sided debate. I am a generous fellow.
I love it. Whenever something doesn't go your way, it's the great conspiracy. It's not that I think YOU'RE stupid, it's that I think EVERYONE is stupid. It's not that I think YOU'RE a fanboy, but that EVERYONE is a fanboy. It's not that I thgink YOUR argument is bunk, just that I think EVERYONE's is if they don't agree with me. Fucking copout crybaby shit. Go play with Jon Kano and CBright.
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Old 08-06-2005, 10:45 PM   #67
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KK, I'm gonna have to ask that you calm down some. You are getting a little stressed and excited.
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Old 08-06-2005, 11:02 PM   #68
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LOL k.

I'll leave the emotion to you, mister conspiracy.
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OK, well now you're just TRYING to rile my fine self up. I will renrge on any further comment till I have cooled down considerably.
^LOL yeah, I'm the emotional one^

"I need to cool down before I can whine more about Bret."
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Old 08-06-2005, 11:13 PM   #71
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^LOL yeah, I'm the emotional one^

"I need to cool down before I can whine more about Bret."
You are taking me too seriously. I'm playing up the perception you have of me as a canadian taking huge offense to anything that may affect Bret in a negative manner.
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Old 08-06-2005, 11:59 PM   #72
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I love Bret, but he has some trouble drawing a line between reality and fiction probably even more so then HBK. Otherwise Bret would not have been upset over getting screwed at Montreal
As far as Montreal goes, like you said earlier, you probably used a really bad example there - as I could have used a better example of someone making a seperation of reality and fiction than Hart; but I think he really is reasonable.

Montreal is beyond being a work. When someone promises you something in the ring and then goes against that - that really goes over the kayfabe line bigtime, and gives someone a right to be completely upset.

Just as Vince & Shawn and Hebner promised everything would be on the up and up [and lied about that], Hart could have given his word that he would do a clean match - and then beat the fuck out of Michaels legitimately. We would all be talking about the night Hart knocked the stuffing out of Shawn instead, and Shawn would undoubtedly be bitching about it until today, as Hart complains about the swerve.

Personally, I'd have seen that coming from MILES away - but that is just me. I think it's nice of Bret to put trust into someone you've given your life to for 15+ years [as you would in a marriage], but he should've known it's VKM.


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For example Bret really does live his gimmick about being the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be. You see the stuff he writes and in his interviews he really does believe that
With this, if I were a guy who worked for a company for "X" number of years, constantly putting on high quality performances, nearly never missing a date, being a major draw and merchandise mover, and doing everything that they'd asked me to do - AND STAYED LOYAL and turned down money one time after another, and avoided being Captain Politics - I'd call myself that as well.

There is hardly anyone that can say all of that for themselves.

Certainly not Michaels.
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You are taking me too seriously. I'm playing up the perception you have of me as a canadian taking huge offense to anything that may affect Bret in a negative manner.
You act as though I care. You're the one complaining, not I.
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Old 08-07-2005, 12:10 AM   #75
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You obviously do care, look at you go.

Kayfabeman, good post.
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