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Old 01-18-2011, 07:43 PM   #11
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Marc Crawford didn't want him on the 98 Olympic team because he was afraid the players would only listen to Messier and not their head coach.

One title? Captained two different teams to a cup. Plus he has 4 other rings, I'd say thats a pretty good indication.

Not to mention he's second all time in points, and he has an NHL leadership award named after him.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say he's overrated.... it just isn't true...

I dont see Oilers rings as a show of leadership, he was on a fucking good team at the height or its play. Excellent player, average leader.

Also I FUCKING hate with a fucking passion when people use Stanley Cups as a measure of personal achievement. Its a team achievement, not a personal one.

He lead the rangers yes, but what if he didnt win the Cup after making the call? It wouldnt be remembered much at all.

Also, who did he lead to win? He scored the goals himself.

I love the guy, he is an amazing player but an amazing leader he is not.
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