Hypothetical: Options in Fighting Games

**.44 Magdalene** · 12-07-2009, 02:32 AM

Actually, the bizarre part is that I'm pretty sure you should know already--at least, if I recall correctly. Have you really never turned a match around with EX Hooligan Throw?

A substantial chunk of many Akuma players' strategies revolve around combo'ing into his Super FTW, though that's most certainly not his only option--it's just that his other options involve... being kind of silly.

Sagat without EX or Ultra has no real reason to ever use Tiger Uppercut over Tiger Knee. Not exactly crippling to his gameplay, but I don't see why you'd want to completely wreck what little versatility he has over the usual TIGER-TIGER-TIGER-HIGHKICK-TIGER-TIGER.

That's off the top of my head, after not playing it for fuck knows how long. Surely there's a reason people do that challenge with certain characters specifically, while others are rather ill advised? Aside from the obvious LOLZANGIEF. And are you really sticking to the idea that certain characters--say, Akuma--aren't balanced in SFIV (discarding past SFs for this particular case) with their bar moves very distinctly in mind? Akuma loses a pretty healthy amount of his capability without his Super, at the very least struggling quite a bit harder against characters that don't necessarily need it as much.

Which is really the thing here--people that don't use the meters want to turn them off. What if I don't personally use sweeps? Why shouldn't I be able to turn them off? You still haven't really done anything to convey why there's a distinct line in the sand between this level of customization and that level of customization, and anything retarded I've potentially said in the past doesn't disregard you from that. You're offering a very visible bias with little justification, outside of us, uhh, taking your word for it.

12-07-2009, 02:32 AM	#11
.44 Magdalene Smitten for Kittens Posts: 3,814	Actually, the bizarre part is that I'm pretty sure you should know already--at least, if I recall correctly. Have you really never turned a match around with EX Hooligan Throw? A substantial chunk of many Akuma players' strategies revolve around combo'ing into his Super FTW, though that's most certainly not his only option--it's just that his other options involve... being kind of silly. Sagat without EX or Ultra has no real reason to ever use Tiger Uppercut over Tiger Knee. Not exactly crippling to his gameplay, but I don't see why you'd want to completely wreck what little versatility he has over the usual TIGER-TIGER-TIGER-HIGHKICK-TIGER-TIGER. That's off the top of my head, after not playing it for fuck knows how long. Surely there's a reason people do that challenge with certain characters specifically, while others are rather ill advised? Aside from the obvious LOLZANGIEF. And are you really sticking to the idea that certain characters--say, Akuma--aren't balanced in SFIV (discarding past SFs for this particular case) with their bar moves very distinctly in mind? Akuma loses a pretty healthy amount of his capability without his Super, at the very least struggling quite a bit harder against characters that don't necessarily need it as much. Which is really the thing here--people that don't use the meters want to turn them off. What if I don't personally use sweeps? Why shouldn't I be able to turn them off? You still haven't really done anything to convey why there's a distinct line in the sand between this level of customization and that level of customization, and anything retarded I've potentially said in the past doesn't disregard you from that. You're offering a very visible bias with little justification, outside of us, uhh, taking your word for it.