I don't understand... (ECW SPOILERS)

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Dave Youell ECW is basically the OVW for WWE, it feeds other shows the likes of: Mike Knox Kofi Kingston CM Punk Jack Swagger Evan Bourne and had re-juvinated: Miz and Morrison Finlay Matt Hardy Mark Henry Having Christian on ECW for a few months will increase his stock, if he came out on Smackdown as the one who took out Jeff, he'd effectivly be a bit part player in the story and instantly be de-pushing himself as Edge's puppet as they are not on the same level they once were At least this way Christian can use ECW to get a buzz and get more over (remember he's never really been given a face run before for WWE) and then in the draft will probably move to Smackdown and feud with Edge, but with much more momentum

OVW? That's nice, but it doesn't build up Christian. Similarly, you take the lowest watched show in WWE, and what momentum does it really give Christian?

[Fabien Barthez]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight OVW? That's nice, but it doesn't build up Christian. Similarly, you take the lowest watched show in WWE, and what momentum does it really give Christian?

Well, actually it does. You see, I am relatively sure that the plan is to add C to ECW to boost the rating, but as a result of being the top guy on the show, he will get more mic time than if he was mid card on either of the other 2. Plus, he will probably get a 10 minute match every week.

Did you see Punk/Regal on Raw? If you did, I rest my case.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez Well, actually it does. You see, I am relatively sure that the plan is to add C to ECW to boost the rating, but as a result of being the top guy on the show, he will get more mic time than if he was mid card on either of the other 2. Plus, he will probably get a 10 minute match every week. Did you see Punk/Regal on Raw? If you did, I rest my case.

Of course hell get more mic time. There's like ten people. It still goes back to "who cares?" Christian on ECW won't boost the rating. Christian speaking a lot on a show with less than a sixth of the market of one of the other WWE shows doesn't equate to anything effective, unless his only problem is he can't speak and needs time to practice before the big leagues.

A feud with Jeff would likely have elevated him better than that.

Any lack of mobility in WWE is internal, not because of placement on the show. Christian himself, for example, was mad over before he quit, but Vince saw him as a midcarder. Oops. Matt Hardy? Could have been easily retooled on Raw or Smackdown. Even now, he's jealous of his brother, who has real gold. Do they even talk about Kane's run? I haven't noticed, but....

Vince was going to push CM Punk no matter where he was, especially based on circumstances. Cena got over on his own, even with the big names he was competing aginst for TV time. Miz and Morrison are both cases of "would be pushed regardless," as well.

More importantly, the people it "brought us" are yet to be proven, save for Punk. The list of people ECW has "fed" other shows looks like, whether you like the guys or not, a veritable who's who of "future endeavors." And I like Kofi, and I hope he doesn't get fired, but I'm pretty sure he's either going to be a midcarder or FEd in the next year or so. Knox will probably be around for a while, but in the generic hoss role he could have managed on Raw or Smackdown to begin with, and...Well, with Bourne, my feelings are about the same as Coffee.

[Fabien Barthez]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Of course hell get more mic time. There's like ten people. It still goes back to "who cares?" Christian on ECW won't boost the rating. Christian speaking a lot on a show with less than a sixth of the market of one of the other WWE shows doesn't equate to anything effective, unless his only problem is he can't speak and needs time to practice before the big leagues. A feud with Jeff would likely have elevated him better than that. Any lack of mobility in WWE is internal, not because of placement on the show. Christian himself, for example, was mad over before he quit, but Vince saw him as a midcarder. Oops. Matt Hardy? Could have been easily retooled on Raw or Smackdown. Even now, he's jealous of his brother, who has real gold. Do they even talk about Kane's run? I haven't noticed, but.... Vince was going to push CM Punk no matter where he was, especially based on circumstances. Cena got over on his own, even with the big names he was competing aginst for TV time. Miz and Morrison are both cases of "would be pushed regardless," as well. More importantly, the people it "brought us" are yet to be proven, save for Punk. The list of people ECW has "fed" other shows looks like, whether you like the guys or not, a veritable who's who of "future endeavors." And I like Kofi, and I hope he doesn't get fired, but I'm pretty sure he's either going to be a midcarder or FEd in the next year or so. Knox will probably be around for a while, but in the generic hoss role he could have managed on Raw or Smackdown to begin with, and...Well, with Bourne, my feelings are about the same as Coffee.

So, what is your conclusive point? ECW should be cancelled, so there are less wrestlers on the overall roster, or less TV time per wrestler every week? Or that ECW should be exclusively for wrestlers who are very much bottom rung? Should there be no attempt to improve the ratings of the show and try to expand the brand to equivilate it to the other 2 eventualy? Is that how you would run your business?

And does ECW really only get 1/6th of Raws viewing numbers?

Fact is, some time as ECW champ, and Matt Hardy is on his way to one of the biggest singles fueds in a long time, that will culminate in a big match at Wrestlemania. He was a good guy to give the rub to the ECW juniors, and he got to work alot more promos, and have longer matches.

No matter what anyone says, C isn't big enough in the world of wrestling, to be in a fued with Edge or Jeff Hardy. Frankly, neither is Matt Hardy, but being brothers is probably his saving grace, and if he looks good in this programme, will raise his stock dramatically.

I don't think there is a TV show on mainstream TV that's main intention isn't to boost ratings. You are almost saying that it is bad business for them to do this.

And fuck Christian's push. You want a push in WWE, you should stay in WWE. Going to TNA is not the most productive way to get over with Vince.

[RGWhat316]

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez And fuck Christian's push. You want a push in WWE, you should stay in WWE. Going to TNA is not the most productive way to get over with Vince.

Someone finally said it. I fully didn't expect Christian to be thrown right into a high profile storyline right away. He still left WWE to go to the so-called competition, and now has come crawling back. I'm glad he's back of course, but with Vince's way of thinking, hes not gonna be "oh you just main evented TNA, here you can main event here!" That is not Vince's way of thinking, since he wants to essentially make Christian pay for going to TNA in the first place but not putting him on one of the major shows right away.