best debut ever!

[Damian Rey]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ And some folks believe there's not a difference in the crowd reactions between now and the Attitude era. Just listen to Tazz's debut!

Pretty sure the consensus is today's crowds are dull and boring and have a hand in ruining what should be awesome segments.

[BigCrippyZ]

Originally Posted by Damian Rey Pretty sure the consensus is today's crowds are dull and boring and have a hand in ruining what should be awesome segments.

I think most people will agree. Still I had another thread recently where some folks just didn't believe there was a difference. Or that it wasn't related to the PG era/writing. Someone argued it was because they went to HD and that's why the crowds "sounded" quieter.

[Damian Rey]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ I think most people will agree. Still I had another thread recently where some folks just didn't believe there was a difference. Or that it wasn't related to the PG era/writing. Someone argued it was because they went to HD and that's why the crowds "sounded" quieter.

I think the PG marketing has something to do with it. I mean, when you think about who's going to the shows, it's little kids who are brought with their parents. Prepubescent kids don't have enough bass in their voice to produce the big time pops heard in the attitude era.

Also, the parents are only there to take their kid, and likely have no interest in popping for anyone.

[RVDmark]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ I think most people will agree. Still I had another thread recently where some folks just didn't believe there was a difference. Or that it wasn't related to the PG era/writing. Someone argued it was because they went to HD and that's why the crowds "sounded" quieter.

The crowds are a massve part of the atmosphere, and its nothing to do with HD. Give a corwd something worth cheering for, and they will cheer. Take a look at ONS/ONS2. Or most Attitude era shows with Rock n Austin on them.

[The Show Off]

Originally Posted by RVDmark The crowds are a massve part of the atmosphere, and its nothing to do with HD. Give a corwd something worth cheering for, and they will cheer. Take a look at ONS/ONS2. Or most Attitude era shows with Rock n Austin on them.

Yeah but you have to consider two things... One Night Stand 1 & 2 were both basically 100% males between the ages of 18 and 35 (the loudest demo) and it took place in New York City which is a hub for marks.

It's true that a lot of the problem with pops these days has to do with parents and kids as said before. Kids don't have enough base to really pop and their parents are just escorting them there so they don't care.

The thing is you have to give the 18 to 35 year old males something to pop for to get the old Attitude era pops, however a lot of those things would alienate the young fans who are far more lucrative from a merchandise stand point.

It is still sad that the ROH shows I go to have louder crowds then most WWE shows.

[BigCrippyZ]

Maybe I'm the only one, but if I hear a great reaction from the crowd, it gets me more into the show. Especially on t.v. I guess it's the mob mentality thing working it's magic on me. Thinking back on how great the Attitude era was and how much I was into it and thoroughly enjoyed it consistently, I'm wondering if it wasn't due, at least in part, to the great crowd reactions from guys like Rock, Austin, Taker, and HHH. Hell even lower and mid card guys often got pops bigger than Cena does now. Anybody else ever feel that way?