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**Jeritron** · 11-23-2010, 07:07 PM

The Miz is obviously more over than plenty of other champions in recent years, and has potential to be a bigger draw if he isn't already.

It's hard to tell what kind of a draw someone is until they are champion, and with the way things are in the current climate, it's hard to tell even then.
But The Miz certainly isn't any less of a draw than anyone else in the uppermidcard is or ever really has been.

Orton/Cena weren't bigger draws right when they were breaking through in 2004, or Punk a few years ago, or Swagger/Sheamus last year, and so on.
Was Edge that much more of a draw when he went and cashed in for the title?
Jericho has been a great champion over the past few years, and he's certainly not a huge draw like Cena or Rey.

Nowadays the champion doesn't really carry the company on his back anymore. It's the entire roster that does that collectively, and the champions really are creative decisions. I think individual drawing is less important when it comes to the title belts, except for maybe at Wrestlemania.
Creatively, I think Miz is worthy. And I think that's really all that's relevant now. Especially as a fan.

**St. Jimmy** · 11-23-2010, 07:47 PM

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Nowadays the champion doesn't really carry the company on his back anymore.

Right. That just adds to the argument that he wasn't a draw before he was champion, he won't be any more of a draw as champion. No one consciously will buy a PPV or a Ticket because of Mike Mizanin; the people who say they will or disagree are doing so because they have are trying to make a point on how contradictory they can be.

**Jeritron** · 11-23-2010, 08:57 PM

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Right. That just adds to the argument that he wasn't a draw before he was champion, he won't be any more of a draw as champion. No one consciously will buy a PPV or a Ticket because of Mike Mizanin; the people who say they will or disagree are doing so because they have are trying to make a point on how contradictory they can be.

Not only is that not true, but it's irrelevant. How does this garbage about his drawing ability explain whether or not I should enjoy him as champion?

**St. Jimmy** · 11-23-2010, 09:58 PM

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Not only is that not true, but it's irrelevant. How does this garbage about his drawing ability explain whether or not I should enjoy him as champion?

Since when is this discussion about you?

**Cuzziebro** · 11-24-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy

Right. That just adds to the argument that he wasn't a draw before he was champion, he won't be any more of a draw as champion. No one consciously will buy a PPV or a Ticket because of Mike Mizanin; the people who say they will or disagree are doing so because they have are trying to make a point on how contradictory they can be.

Is there really people out there who buy a ticket to a live RAW/Smackdown/PPV etc. for just ONE specific wrestler?

View Poll Results: When will the Miz lose his title?
He'll lose it at the next PPV	6	17.14%
He will lost it at the Royal Rumble	10	28.57%
He will lose it at Elimination Chamber	11	31.43%
He will lose it at Wrestlemania	3	8.57%
He will lose it after Wrestlemania	5	14.29%
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11-23-2010, 07:07 PM	#1
Jeritron Get a poke on Posts: 35,234	The Miz is obviously more over than plenty of other champions in recent years, and has potential to be a bigger draw if he isn't already. It's hard to tell what kind of a draw someone is until they are champion, and with the way things are in the current climate, it's hard to tell even then. But The Miz certainly isn't any less of a draw than anyone else in the uppermidcard is or ever really has been. Orton/Cena weren't bigger draws right when they were breaking through in 2004, or Punk a few years ago, or Swagger/Sheamus last year, and so on. Was Edge that much more of a draw when he went and cashed in for the title? Jericho has been a great champion over the past few years, and he's certainly not a huge draw like Cena or Rey. Nowadays the champion doesn't really carry the company on his back anymore. It's the entire roster that does that collectively, and the champions really are creative decisions. I think individual drawing is less important when it comes to the title belts, except for maybe at Wrestlemania. Creatively, I think Miz is worthy. And I think that's really all that's relevant now. Especially as a fan.