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View Poll Results: When will the Miz lose his title?
He'll lose it at the next PPV 6 17.14%
He will lost it at the Royal Rumble 10 28.57%
He will lose it at Elimination Chamber 11 31.43%
He will lose it at Wrestlemania 3 8.57%
He will lose it after Wrestlemania 5 14.29%
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:32 AM   #41
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We all know St. Jimmy has immaculate taste in wrestling, so he must be right.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:36 AM   #42
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:40 AM   #43
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Wait, The Miz was considered racist on the Real World? What was that all about...
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:45 AM   #44
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Wait, The Miz was considered racist on the Real World? What was that all about...
He and a black chick named Coral from the Real World NY cast did not get along at all. They would get into arguments all the time and one time he said something stupid about her being a bitch because she's black.

They ended up patching things up tho and won several of the Road Rules/Real World challenges together.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:53 AM   #45
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He and a black chick named Coral from the Real World NY cast did not get along at all. They would get into arguments all the time and one time he said something stupid about her being a bitch because she's black.

They ended up patching things up tho and won several of the Road Rules/Real World challenges together.
Oh ok. The Miz is growing on me more and more. Callin' out bitches...[/Tupac]
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:57 AM   #46
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I LOVE the girl at about 3:45 of that vids face...
I don't even have to watch the clip to know what girl you're talking about ('cause I actually caught the end of RAW). She looked like she was about to storm the ring, hit the F5 on Miz, and declare herself #1 contender.
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:01 AM   #47
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When the show first started, they pointed out that Miz was an only child who had grown up somewhat sheltered and had never interacted with gays and blacks, so some of the animosity stemmed from that.

Miz was basically a dumb jock/frat boy for pretty much the whole season. Plus, he was only 21 at the time.
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:02 AM   #48
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When the show first started, they pointed out that Miz was an only child who had grown up somewhat sheltered and had never interacted with gays and blacks, so some of the animosity stemmed from that.

Miz was basically a dumb jock/frat boy for pretty much the whole season. Plus, he was only 21 at the time.
I imagine some creative MTV editing helped too.
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:16 AM   #49
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:26 AM   #50
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:32 AM   #52
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St. Jimmy please explain how you concluded that The Miz is the 2nd worst Champion? I don't see how you came to that conclusion at all.
Personally, I enjoy The Miz quite a bit. He is a great character and no he may not be at HHH's level, for example, however he deserved this title and hopefully they make the most of it. Knowing WWE they wont. But we all can hope.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:37 AM   #53
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St. Jimmy please explain how you concluded that The Miz is the 2nd worst Champion? I don't see how you came to that conclusion at all.
Personally, I enjoy The Miz quite a bit. He is a great character and no he may not be at HHH's level, for example, however he deserved this title and hopefully they make the most of it. Knowing WWE they wont. But we all can hope.
He isn't a draw. He never will be.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:48 AM   #54
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I don't like him, but that's not the point.

Just knowing WWE, he will disappear from the World Title scene as soon as he loses the belt. Don't know when it will happen though. Probably two PPVs from now, whatever comes then.
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:58 AM   #55
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Besides the fact that I like The Miz, I think WWE handled his MITB Cash In/Title Match very well. It was drawn out, Miz was given time to build himself more. I don't want to jinx it but maybe someone higher up in the E is starting to get it right.
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:37 AM   #56
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He isn't a draw. He never will be.
So Vince McMahon was a better champion than him?
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"I hope we go to the desert because I want to trade you for some camels" (Random guy talking to Coral)
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I think this run is going to go the same as Sheamus'. He'll have questionable victories and lose it in the EC.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:00 PM   #60
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Looking over the History of WWWF/WWF/WWE Champions. The Miz is the 2nd worst WWE Champion of all time, only being beaten by Diesel.
How fucking dare you?
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:44 PM   #63
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Its so easy to judge how horrible of a champion he is when he was champion on tv for a whole 3 minutes, and hasnt had the belt for a day yet.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:30 PM   #64
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He isn't a draw. He never will be.
Why am I supposed to give a fuck? Am I a stockholder? Are you? We are fucking fans.
If you don't like him, which you obviously don't, just leave it at that. It's your opinion that he's a poor champ (even though we haven't seen a lick of his reign) but don't act like it's fact and don't appeal to inappropriate authorities, like drawing power.
I respect that you don't like the guy but trolling his title reign 5 minutes in and justifying it on drawing powers is laughable.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:48 PM   #65
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He's not a draw? The crowd after he won was insane. For a heel beating a top face for the title unfairly, the crowd really seemed to love it.
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Old 11-23-2010, 05:50 PM   #66
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I'm sure Swagger and Sheamus sell so much more merchandise than The Miz.

Honestly though, I don't think Orton and Cena were any bigger of draws in 2004.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:18 PM   #67
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He's not a draw? The crowd after he won was insane. For a heel beating a top face for the title unfairly, the crowd really seemed to love it.
They were excited that something unexpected happened. Anyone could've cashed in that briefcase and would've had that same pop.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:46 PM   #69
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They were excited that something unexpected happened. Anyone could've cashed in that briefcase and would've had that same pop.


That video begs to differ, even with the added crowd response.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:07 PM   #70
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The Miz is obviously more over than plenty of other champions in recent years, and has potential to be a bigger draw if he isn't already.

It's hard to tell what kind of a draw someone is until they are champion, and with the way things are in the current climate, it's hard to tell even then.
But The Miz certainly isn't any less of a draw than anyone else in the uppermidcard is or ever really has been.

Orton/Cena weren't bigger draws right when they were breaking through in 2004, or Punk a few years ago, or Swagger/Sheamus last year, and so on.
Was Edge that much more of a draw when he went and cashed in for the title?
Jericho has been a great champion over the past few years, and he's certainly not a huge draw like Cena or Rey.

Nowadays the champion doesn't really carry the company on his back anymore. It's the entire roster that does that collectively, and the champions really are creative decisions. I think individual drawing is less important when it comes to the title belts, except for maybe at Wrestlemania.
Creatively, I think Miz is worthy. And I think that's really all that's relevant now. Especially as a fan.
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Xero, that pop was pretty much no different than the pop the Miz got. I don't hear a difference.
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Nowadays the champion doesn't really carry the company on his back anymore.
Right. That just adds to the argument that he wasn't a draw before he was champion, he won't be any more of a draw as champion. No one consciously will buy a PPV or a Ticket because of Mike Mizanin; the people who say they will or disagree are doing so because they have are trying to make a point on how contradictory they can be.
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I said he'd lose at the Chamber, similar to what happened to Sheamus earlier this year.

They fucking have to do Miz vs Morrison at the Rumble though. The Title match is usually a throw away anyway at the Rumble and that match would be awesome.
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Right. That just adds to the argument that he wasn't a draw before he was champion, he won't be any more of a draw as champion. No one consciously will buy a PPV or a Ticket because of Mike Mizanin; the people who say they will or disagree are doing so because they have are trying to make a point on how contradictory they can be.
Not only is that not true, but it's irrelevant. How does this garbage about his drawing ability explain whether or not I should enjoy him as champion?
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Now I'm supposed to prefer Hogan to Shawn because of drawing power
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Not only is that not true, but it's irrelevant. How does this garbage about his drawing ability explain whether or not I should enjoy him as champion?
Since when is this discussion about you?
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It's a discussion about you stating he's the 2nd worst champion in WWE history as though it were fact.
Not only is that ridiculous, since he won it last night, but it's also just impossible to state something like that and argue it with any tangible facts.
If it's your opinion, that is fine, but you started citing drawing power and evidence to support your case.
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Right. That just adds to the argument that he wasn't a draw before he was champion, he won't be any more of a draw as champion. No one consciously will buy a PPV or a Ticket because of Mike Mizanin; the people who say they will or disagree are doing so because they have are trying to make a point on how contradictory they can be.
Is there really people out there who buy a ticket to a live RAW/Smackdown/PPV etc. for just ONE specific wrestler?
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I'm pretty excited about The Miz winning the WWE Championship on RAW. It's not like Kane or Jack Swagger cashing in, or Sheamus winning the WWE title; this time I really think they've given the world title to someone who can truly take the ball and run with it. Right now, when the WWE is trying new things and giving the spotlight to new stars, I think that The Miz is someone who can capitalize on that spotlight and make himself into a superstar. Nobody in the WWE has his mic skills right now. Super Cena and Robo-Orton are bland and boring, Jericho is gone, Punk is on the shelf, even Triple H might not be able to hold the microphone with The Miz.

The man is on top of his game and has earned his rise to the top. From his matches in ECW to Miz and Morrison, ShowMiz, his "feud" with John Cena and his recent run with the US Title, Miz has been a highlight of the WWE for a long time. I just hope the WWE gives him the time and storylines necessary to help make him a star. If nothing else, I, and many others I'm sure, can't wait to hear The Miz cut a promo on Monday night RAW, and that alone is a sign that the company is doing something right.
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