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Old 02-06-2011, 01:31 PM   #201
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I put my money against Silva in the Forrest Griffin fight and will never do it again..

It's not about being on someones nuts, it's about seeing that he is the baddest motherfucker walking the face of the earth..

Can he be beat?? Sure.. Prolly will happen someday, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna pick against him..

Still don't see why you guys get so upset.. Pretty sure its cause you are on GSP's nuts and are being hypocritical..
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:33 PM   #202
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BLARGH you're such a retard. I fucking love Anderson Silva, and I love GSP, but I can acknowledge their weaknesses. You can't do that because you're retarded.
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Clearly you've never seen Franky Edgar fight.
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"BLAH BLAH BLAH ANDERSON SILVA'S SUCH A BADASS THEREFORE I CANNOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE COULD LOSE TO GSP, EVEN THOUGH HE HAS PROVEN THAT HE IS ALSO A BADASS"
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I've seen pro fighters make the most retarded predictions and put forth the worst analysis.
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I really wish people would stop trying to say that the reason Anderson took that beating from Chael was so that he could sub him at the last second.

I also wish people would stop forgetting the fact that Silva did have a rib injury in that fight and Sonnen was probably stronger than he's been in any other fight due to his higher levels of testosterone.

Even if GSP is able to get Silva to the ground no one wants to watch a fight like that. GSP doesn't have ground and pound or slick subs and it would probably be more grinding than anything else if it went that way. If anything, GSP's take downs would turn it into a fight where Anderson doesn't engage and merely dances around and mocks GSP for four rounds instead of chasing him or opening himself up to be taken down.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:41 PM   #210
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I've seen pro fighters make the most retarded predictions and put forth the worst analysis.
you pretty much hands down say the most retarded things all the time... give me examples of when both you and IC have ever said anything that make sense ever. Please.... jesus christ dude get a fucking clue
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:55 PM   #211
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"I'm semi-pro/amatuer, I know everything".. I guess after I'm done 6 months of boxing and wrestling traing and get a fight under my belt, I'll make sense then too.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:59 PM   #212
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:01 PM   #213
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I really don't see how insults helps here, but it is fun.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:11 PM   #214
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That's the thing, you guys get super butthurt like I am saying GSP is horrible or something..

I never said that..

I just think that if/when they do fight, Silva will knock him out.. More or a testament to Silva, than a knock at GSP..

You are crying like little bitches..
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:14 PM   #215
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Yes we get it, Silva will knock him, nevermind anything else you said, or your reasoning behind it..
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I'm just crying though.
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it doesnt even have to do with me being a fighter. It has to do with me paying attention to what goes on like reading articles and watching the fights.


basically the edgar penn fight was just compared to a silva/gsp fight. Thats ridiculous... you have two fights with fighters with complete different styles going at it.


Now against a strong wrestler that can attack the legs, silva can get in trouble. But to say that GSP will put him on his back like sonnen did shows me that you dont even actually think about whats going on.

Silva gets in trouble against guys that will fight through the punches and AGGRESSIVELY go for the takedown. IE sonnen, and lutter.

Ive said it before (and i cant find the thread to just quote it) But GSP isnt necessarily the best wrestler in mma, hes probably just the greatest athlete. How many times have you seen him just blast a double leg into guys to take them down (especially since his loss to serra)? GSP mixes his strikes with takedowns and what he does is get guys to get offensive on the feet, and he then cuts under them to their legs (alves, bj, hardy, even matt serra). When someone is completely off balance, its not hard to take them down.

My point is, GSP is a counter wrestler while silva is a counter striker. GSP not going to get out of position to take a shot. Hes not the same type of wrestler to fight through a bas position like sonnen is able to, and you know hes not going to be over aggressive on the feet. So what is he going to do to open silva up?

Silva has shown that if you dont want to attack him, that hes more than willing to sit back and let the crowd boo. Is GSP willing to put a fight like that on? ow granted GSP gets booed when he lays on the guys, but when your actually taking guys down and throwing punches and staying dominant, its a little different than standing in front of your opponent and dancing.
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and yes krispy saying that silva layed down there for 4 and a half rounds so that he could send a message by submitting sonnen is so incomprehensibly retarded that he should have to wear a helmet
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That was an actual point you made, and not an insult, so you can be insightful.
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your right.... i asked you for examples of when youve said anything that at least half-way showed that you knew what you were talking about.
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That was an actual point you made, and not an insult, so you can be insightful.
and clearly you cant be
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:23 PM   #224
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I don't think GSP has to do anything really to open Silva up, just pick his spots. His best bet maybe trying to force Silva into the cage and take him down from there, taking away Silva space to counter. Then of course you have to worry about the Thai clinche, but GSPs grappling should be good enough to avoid it. I'm not sure what GSP would do going into the fight, but I'm sure he and Greg Jackson would come up some plan to get Silva down.
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I need Rated R Classic to comment in this thread because he was really high up on Vitor beating Silva for a long time.
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Yes we get it, Silva will knock him, nevermind anything else you said, or your reasoning behind it..
Show me what else I said..

Sure, the Sonnan fight was bad but so was GSP's vs Hardy.. I mean, sure GSP did whatever he wanted transitioning on the ground but he couldn't put Hardy away.. GSP did enough to get a decision.. Don't really see how it's that different than Silva choking Sonnen out in the fifth.. He did enough to win.. GSP couldn't do shit to Hardy on top and Silva has proven he is so much more dangerous off his back than Hardy..

Other than me just out right agreeing with you that GSP will come in and dominate Silva with wretling, I really don't know what you want me to say.. That's why I don't understand why you (and Newstead) freak the fuck out when ever this is brought up..
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The problem is after 5 rounds GSP won, if the Sonnen/Silva fight had gone the distance we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:28 PM   #229
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I don't think GSP has to do anything really to open Silva up, just pick his spots. His best bet maybe trying to force Silva into the cage and take him down from there, taking away Silva space to counter. Then of course you have to worry about the Thai clinche, but GSPs grappling should be good enough to avoid it. I'm not sure what GSP would do going into the fight, but I'm sure he and Greg Jackson would come up some plan to get Silva down.
ow is this different than me saying that Silva will avoid, using his elusiveness and eventually catch GSP coming in??

When I say it, I'm riding Silva's dick etc..

When yall say it about GSP you are being intelligent unbiased fans..

Fucking ridiculous..
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The problem is after 5 rounds GSP won, if the Sonnen/Silva fight had gone the distance we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
So the difference is Silva finished the fight while GSP couldn't??

Got it..
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I don't think GSP has to do anything really to open Silva up, just pick his spots. His best bet maybe trying to force Silva into the cage and take him down from there, taking away Silva space to counter. Then of course you have to worry about the Thai clinche, but GSPs grappling should be good enough to avoid it. I'm not sure what GSP would do going into the fight, but I'm sure he and Greg Jackson would come up some plan to get Silva down.
Well if he doesnt do anything to open silva up, what spots is he going to be picking? Thats the thing, silva will stay away untill you come after him so to force silva into the cage, you have to bull him into the cage, which means you have to get in his striking range.

And Jackson is good, but its hard for me to imagine a plan he can make to get at silva.

Its weird to say, but I dont think GSP has the skill set to get silva down the ways others have.
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So the difference is Silva finished the fight while GSP couldn't??

Got it..
Yes, that was it.
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So the difference is Silva finished the fight while GSP couldn't??

Got it..
no the point is, your comparing gsp/hardy (where GSP dominated bell-to-bell) to silva/sonnen (where sonnen dominated and got caught making a mistake)

The performances are completely different. Its apples to oranges dude.
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Well if he doesnt do anything to open silva up, what spots is he going to be picking? Thats the thing, silva will stay away untill you come after him so to force silva into the cage, you have to bull him into the cage, which means you have to get in his striking range.

And Jackson is good, but its hard for me to imagine a plan he can make to get at silva.

Its weird to say, but I dont think GSP has the skill set to get silva down the ways others have.
He's has to be patient and take his shots at a double, and maybe mix it up with a bull rush or two, he certainly can't approch it the way he has other fights, because of Silvas striking, but you also have to account to Silva not letting go like he normally would for fear of being taken down.
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Thats what im saying though... silva will never let go if he doesnt have to
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and the way judges score fights, hed win by octagon control of some shit... and GSP is very aware of his self image and he will not stand in front of a guy and do nothing if he thinks he could lose especially if the crowd is livid.
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Yeah but it proves that even though GSP is a good wrestler, he wasn't able to put Hardy away.. Hardy is no where near the level Silva is off his back.. The last time GSP finished someone was Serra 3 years ago.. (BJ Penn gassed and quit..)

GSP is great, but he is not a killer like Silva..
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and the way judges score fights, hed win by octagon control of some shit... and GSP is very aware of his self image and he will not stand in front of a guy and do nothing if he thinks he could lose especially if the crowd is livid.
True, but GSP can afford to be boo'd, Silva really can't at this point, not that Silva would, or should care. That's why I just rushing in for a double or forcing him into the cage and working a single are his best bets, but like you said Silva doesn't wanna let go if he doesn't have to. Its why GSP has to close distance without striking and just shoot, and maybe the first 2 get stuffed, but eventually I think GSP should be able to get him down, now while doing that, he need to avoid counters and knees.
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Yeah but it proves that even though GSP is a good wrestler, he wasn't able to put Hardy away.. Hardy is no where near the level Silva is off his back.. The last time GSP finished someone was Serra 3 years ago.. (BJ Penn gassed and quit..)

GSP is great, but he is not a killer like Silva..
They have two completely differenent styles and approaches to fights. Did GSP need to finished Hardy to win? No. Hardy is tough and refused to tap where most others would have. Does he need to finished Silva to win? No, so you point doesn't really matter.
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