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Old 04-26-2011, 02:31 AM   #1
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And please, someone explain to me how it was a waste of time? I do not understand this complaint at all.
Using the 24 example from earlier:

Act I: Jack finds out there's a nuclear bomb somewhere in LA. The entire act is gathering clues to find the bomb.

Act II: Side plots involving secondary characters, all the while Jack gets closer to the bomb.

Act III: Jack figures out where the bomb is, rushes in to save the day... But there's no bomb. There was never a bomb. Not because a terrorist left a misleading message so he could blow something else up. There were just no bombs. Heh heh whoops. Roll credits.

After watching that, don't you wish they would have spent the first act of the episode dealing with something that was actually happening? Or do you think that first third of the show was worthwhile because in the end, LA doesn't blow up - even though he didn't actually do anything?
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:34 AM   #2
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Using the 24 example from earlier:

Act I: Jack finds out there's a nuclear bomb somewhere in Atlanta. The entire act is gathering clues to find the bomb.

Act II: Side plots involving secondary characters, all the while Jack gets closer to the bomb.

Act III: Jack figures out where the bomb is, rushes in to save the day... But there's no bomb. There was never a bomb. Not because a terrorist left a misleading message so he could blow something else up. There were just no bombs. Heh heh whoops. Roll credits.

After watching that, don't you wish they would have spent the first act of the episode dealing with something that was actually happening? Or do you think that first third of the show was worthwhile because in the end, LA doesn't blow up - even though he didn't actually do anything?
That's not a waste of time, that's a shitty story. A waste of time implies that the time could have been better used (assuming we'd all be watching these two hours of Raw no matter what. I think we all agree our time could be better spent than watching wrestling). So how could that time have been better spent?
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:36 AM   #3
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That's not a waste of time, that's a shitty story. A waste of time implies that the time could have been better used (assuming we'd all be watching these two hours of Raw no matter what. I think we all agree our time could be better spent than watching wrestling). So how could that time have been better spent?
The answer to your last sentence lies in your first: Tell a better story.
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The answer to your last sentence lies in your first: Tell a better story.
which is...
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which is...
Additional draft picks - preferably ones that stick until the end of the night.
Extreme Rules hype?
Extra time for the matches they already booked?
Maybe we could see the other co-number-one contender for the World Title before the main event?

Pick one.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:53 AM   #6
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Additional draft picks - preferably ones that stick until the end of the night.
Extreme Rules hype?
Extra time for the matches they already booked?
Maybe we could see the other co-number-one contender for the World Title before the main event?

Pick one.
there's nothing inherently more entertaining about any of those options

lemme ask you though, if Cena had cut a heart wrenching promo about how much he loved Raw and how he could never see himself leaving Raw because that's his home and they really really really pulled at your heartstrings, and Miz came out and shit all over Cena saying he'd never get his chance to face the Miz ever again, would you have been ok with the switch back to Raw at the end?
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:12 AM   #7
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there's nothing inherently more entertaining about any of those options

lemme ask you though, if Cena had cut a heart wrenching promo about how much he loved Raw and how he could never see himself leaving Raw because that's his home and they really really really pulled at your heartstrings, and Miz came out and shit all over Cena saying he'd never get his chance to face the Miz ever again, would you have been ok with the switch back to Raw at the end?
It would have been better. Still not crazy about the idea of using the "draft" episode to tell a story that involves using two picks on the same guy, but there's at least a coherent story there. And they sort of attempted that with the promo tonight, but I never felt like Cena was upset about the move. In fact, he seemed very excited about it.

That may come down to a fundamental issue with Cena never taking things seriously. But that's a conversation for another time. But overall that would have been a better use of that time.
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there's nothing inherently more entertaining about any of those options

lemme ask you though, if Cena had cut a heart wrenching promo about how much he loved Raw and how he could never see himself leaving Raw because that's his home and they really really really pulled at your heartstrings, and Miz came out and shit all over Cena saying he'd never get his chance to face the Miz ever again, would you have been ok with the switch back to Raw at the end?
No, because it achieves nothing. Maybe something like that could be done if they did the draft like they did in 2005. Cena is drafted to SmackDown! this week, and suddenly it becomes so much more important for Cena to win at Extreme Rules. The two scenarios for the PPV would seemingly then be either:

a) John Cena wins the WWE Title and Alberto Del Rio win the World Titles, and thus the big belts do a brand switch.

b) The Miz retains, taunts Cena, his heat increases, Cena has some heart-wrenching story of failure to redeem -- leading to the last week where Cena ends up back on RAW, and he gets another title shot against The Miz.
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That's not a waste of time, that's a shitty story. A waste of time implies that the time could have been better used (assuming we'd all be watching these two hours of Raw no matter what. I think we all agree our time could be better spent than watching wrestling). So how could that time have been better spent?
Oh wow. What's that expression that these hip, cool, ironic, internet trolls use?

*Facepalm*
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Using the 24 example from earlier:

Act I: Jack finds out there's a nuclear bomb somewhere in LA. The entire act is gathering clues to find the bomb.

Act II: Side plots involving secondary characters, all the while Jack gets closer to the bomb.

Act III: Jack figures out where the bomb is, rushes in to save the day... But there's no bomb. There was never a bomb. Not because a terrorist left a misleading message so he could blow something else up. There were just no bombs. Heh heh whoops. Roll credits.

After watching that, don't you wish they would have spent the first act of the episode dealing with something that was actually happening? Or do you think that first third of the show was worthwhile because in the end, LA doesn't blow up - even though he didn't actually do anything?
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